Skip to comments.My Obamacare Surprise (Juan W. reporting for duty!)
Posted on 10/11/2013 4:41:10 AM PDT by workerbee
Unlike Americans who tell pollsters they dont like the new law and find it confusing, the business professionals dealing with the day-to-day reality of the new health insurance landscape accept the Affordable Care Act as straight forward approach to begin cutting the rising cost of health care for people and companies.
At the conference, sponsored by the Sun Life Financial Inc., these health care and corporate professionals pointed to reductions in the expense health care puts on small businesses with less than 50 workers. And they think people who work for small companies as well as part time workers-- will get a better deal from public marketplaces for insurance than from most existing employer plans for part-timers.
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Juan Williams is borderline retarded and 100% lemming libtard.
Juan is looking for a silver lining but the law completely blots out the sun. It’s an exercise in futility.
This article is one of the reasons Fox isn’t worth watching anymore!
I wish Fox would cut down on his face time. As soon as I see him or Colmes, off goes the station.
Fox should be embarrassed that they have someone so stupid working for them. It makes “Fair and Balanced” become “Dumb and Dumber”.
Let me put it so that others can understand it.
Juan Williams is an Obama loving sh*t shoveler.
It’s as simple as that.
“Many of the nations top insurance companies, brokers and major employers have moved beyond the bitter debate in Washington”
Let’s examine the reasons behind that statement: Assuming insurance companies don’t go away, they each expect their business to go up, not down, as the government pours in the subsidies AND the eek out increases from those who “can pay” higher premiums for less coverage. Insurance companies win. Moving along, “major employers”, yeah sure, when they move everyone off the health insurance provided by the employer rolls, their costs go DOWN. Even if they provide a subsidy they are better off just from the standpoint of not having to keep benefit coordinators on the rolls AND when they move hours of employees down below 30, no subsidy is needed PLUS they just expect the same amount of worker output...win win for them. Lastly the government benefits in a few ways: the less employer provided health insurance benefits, the higher the employees taxable income plus fines if they don’t get their own insurance. Another win win. The biggest losers here are the nations small businesses who get it in the neck but I guess they are the 3% the MIT jackass believes will be those hurt.
“as straight forward approach to begin cutting the rising cost of health care for people and companies.”
Well yes, once it achieves it’s goal of simultaneously driving private enterprise out of business and destroying private health insurance, then it will begin cutting the rising costs. Just like every other government program, it has to be more efficient.....at waste, fraud and abuse...
This article is so filled with “estimated to” “they think that” and no actual facts
Like the 300% increase in premiums, and the numerous layoffs already happening
Nice try Juan, but you are right- you are NOT entitled to your own facts (and you didn’t cite any, anyways)
Poor Juan...he swallows the lies whole...without chewing on any hard factual information.
Juan did make one interesting point- that the one-year delay the republicans are asking for will “cost” billions and guarantee the program will fail
The program is ALREADY guaranteed to fail, but he just gave the first sound bite on how they will blame its failure on Republicans filing to let them implement it fully
What Juan Williams is saying is of no relevance. The issue isn’t how many people are helped by Obamacare. It’s how many are hurt. That he shows no sympathy for those whose premiums are increased, or for those who are denied full-time jobs, or for small companies that restrain their expansion, indicates he’s a utilitarian. The greatest good for the greatest number. As Joseph Stalin put it, “You cannot make an omelet without breaking some eggs.”
IE: Move Employees from the 40 hour work week to Obama's 29 1/2 Work week; getting a, more than, 25% CUT for those formerly on Full time pay
Those already on part time are feeling the pinch being limited to 29 1/2 now. As for those businesses just over 50 employees? Tough luck for the 51st, 52nd and so forth - they will shortly have no pay.
And this affirmative action hire was made a millionaire by Roger Ailes of Fox News to spout his Obama worship. Unbelievable.
He estimates 17 percent of Americans will be demonstrably better off with lower cost insurance and better benefits while about three percent will face higher premiums and be worse off.
So 80% of us aren't going to be affected? That's what this guy wants us to believe? Hey, have I told you about a bridge I've got for sale?
So, it is obvious that 0bamacare is a boon to small businesses with under 50 employees; especially those that have been offering insurance coverages to their staff.
Under 0bamacare, those companies can drop coverage, forcing their employees to the alternatives allowed by Zero and 0bamunists. In addition, they save the employer contribution they were previously providing, often with NO offset to the compensation of those same people.
For instance, my employer pays 50% of my premium, and I stand the balance, along with coverage for my dependents. Come January, they are dumping coverages for everyone (we are under the 50 headcount limit). They are NOT increasing my salary to toss in that contribution they were formerly providing. So, even absent the change to coverages, deductibles and OOP, my direct health insurance costs will increase by about 20%. I cannot bring myself to test the waters of the new normal in health insurance, so I cannot say what the real cost will be.
This is so anti-Constitutional, it is unbelievable.
Time for a change; a MAJOR change.
I doubt that Williams, having gotten the favorable assesment he sought, bothered to get other, perhaps dissenting, opinions.
When Juan Williams face shows up on my TV, I switch channels.
Juan Williams can’t pull Obama’s johnson out of his mouth long enough to make a coherent statement
Very well said.
Every once in a while, Juan starts to act like he’s been injected with an ever-so-slight amount of common-sense serum and begins to venture into the sunlight of truth... only to be violently jerked back by the firmly re-chained back to the plantation floor.
“Why, Obamacare even pays for me to repeatedly have my head extracted from Barack’s backside, an expensive procedure called a craniorectobamectomy.”
I actually used to kinda like the guy, even though I disagreed with him most of the time. But I have watched him devolve into yet another Zero apologist. To watch him become a lib talking point Obamabot has been just sad.
Wow! What a load of crap!
What is this clown’s claim to fame to get on NPR? Besides the obvious fact that he is black.
Seriously. What did he ever accomplish to get paid for giving his opinions on NPR, and then Foxnews? I know smarter (and more honest) people who pick up trash.
Juam Williams has his head up his obama.
Joe Biden might tell you that he’s not ONLY black, but clean and articulate!
Millions more will be uncovered this year Juan, because Obamacare has made it uncompetitive to stay in the market.
You are far too kind.
I remember Juan YELLING that if the Catholic bishops don’t want to pay for contraception and abortion, all they need to do is “stop taking federal money.”
Did anyone ever succeed in straightening him out?
Here is the reality Juan doesn’t want to see. My husband works as a contractor for the AirForce. A co-worker is also a contractor but employed by a different company. That company consists of three people: the 67 year old married female president, a secretary, also married, and the co-worker. Since the married president and the married secretary are both covered under their husband’s health insurance, they just dropped the insurance for the co-worker. He is forced to buy Obamacare exchange insurance. The cheapest bare bones policy will cost him $2000 per month since he has five dependents, his wife and four kids, two of whom must now be covered because they are over twenty but not yet 26. To which Juan would reply “But it’s portable. He can take it with him when he changes jobs!”
Gee, Juan. I wonder why? Could it be the millions of people running away in horror from this Obamination?
Dump their current employees health care "COST" on the American tax payer via the federal exchanges, and of course employers will welcome this or any other plan that lowers their out of pocket cost.
Juan Williams is the dumbest porch ______ ever hired by FOX after he was dumped by NPR.
Juan has a son that is hard core conservative, but I'd have to see DNA proof of that relationship.
He does? No kidding. Maybe that's why Juan works extra hard to prove his plantation cred. Gotta make up for the son that ran away.
So if you do as that sebelius person suggested, and choose to delay zerocare for a year by paying the penalty instead, you can expect to pay higher premiums once you do sign up.
At least this person is attempting to quantify those helped and those hurt. 17% helped versus 3% hurt. A 6-to-1 ratio. I suppose that’s good enough for utilitarians.
Now, let’s think about this estimate. According to the U-6 unemployment rate, about 14% of Americans are (1) unemployed, (2) not looking for work because they don’t believe they can find work, and (3) working part-time wanting full-time work. This compares to an 8% U-6 unemployment rate during 2007-08.
It is perhaps unfair to say ALL of the higher U-6 unemployment rate is due specifically to Obamacare. But certainly, at least half of it is. That would be 3% right there.
Without counting any of the people whose health insurance premiums have gone up, and who have been forced to buy health insurance while young and in good health and without assets (so that taking their chances with of being without health insurance makes sense from an individual basis), we account for the ENTIRE estimate of “losers” under Obamacare.
I think a fair estimate is that there are as many losers as their are winners.
Sun Life Assurance Company of Canada, Eh.
That opening paragraph reads like boilerplate.
If the young healthy un subsidized folks don’t sign up (for the bad coverage) the insurance companies will bail rather quickly, some like United Healthcare in CA chose not to play at all.
Subsidized people get plans with smaller or no deductible, smaller co-pays and smaller cost sharing, with the same premium paid to the carrier.
Pity the poor fool who drops their current coverage just so they can get a small government handout and then Obamacare goes away.
Like all socialist programs Obamacare depends on the greatest number of people it hurts as the measure of its success.
The Obama whore of FOX news.
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Reading this you might ask why would a small business drop coverage that they were offering their employees all along and everyone was happy with? Are these greedy employers just taking advantage of this law to increase profits?
The reality is that the government has imposed its own mandate on what constitutes allowable converge and to cover the same employees would be more expensive.
It’s a tax. they can raise it to whatever penalty tax rate they want. But only if the RATs can win back the house.
2. I also see that Joo-wan is just scraping by on barely $600,000 a year, much like the rest of us peasants.
Shove it, Juan.
Jay "Mr. Claire Shipman (D-ABC)" Carney probably FAXed it over to Juan before he wrote the piece.
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