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06 Oct 2013 | US Navy Vet

Posted on 10/06/2013 12:31:20 PM PDT by US Navy Vet

..."Get back to work(first thing tomorrow)".


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To: leapfrog0202
Thanks for the kind words leapfrog0202.

:D

81 posted on 10/06/2013 3:28:33 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: Hot Tabasco

To All Concerned...
I wish him all the luck in the world.. I retired in 1975 as a Platoon SGT (E7) and so far have beaten the actuary tables.. I am now working on 39 years of miniscule retired pay for serving my country through 2 wars and also in Germany during the tense Cold War, I was in 7th Corps (LRRP) Jayhawks which was disbanded and became the 75th Rangers. We Retired Vets earned and deserve our Retirement pay.By the way, I am 80 years old and hope to draw at least another 10 years of it.

Airborne All The Way


82 posted on 10/06/2013 3:37:00 PM PDT by coldflamingo (Old Paratrooper/Nam Vet/Retired SFC USArmy)
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To: leapfrog0202
Maybe he’s like I am. Sick to death of the comments on FR about people that work for the federal government.

I would suggest just ignoring it and keeping your mouth shut. It has been a rough 5 years for many people on main street and they are venting...

83 posted on 10/06/2013 3:40:09 PM PDT by EVO X
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To: t1b8zs

Every one that he has or will earn and every one to which he has contributed! Do you realize that if you have a government pension and you have fully contributed to Social Security in other employment, your Soc. Sec. is reduced? Some people are willing to get off their tails and “EARN” pensions from several sources!


84 posted on 10/06/2013 3:44:02 PM PDT by Nuocmam
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To: US Navy Vet
So in that vein, GO TO HELL, Troll!

Did I touch a nerve? LOL! According to YOU, you're the one who got banned way back when so who's really the troll here?

And stop being so nasty.........


85 posted on 10/06/2013 3:46:24 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Ms. Muffett suffered from arachnophobia)
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To: CodeToad
That isn’t an example of double dipping.

If you're referring to my comment about my friend and my BIL, you're right, it's not double dipping. What they have successfully done, which is not available in the private sector, is buy back their non vested years and apply it to their current tenure come retirement time.

86 posted on 10/06/2013 3:49:51 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Ms. Muffett suffered from arachnophobia)
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To: leapfrog0202

Excellent answer. Thank you.

God bless all of the brave men who put themselves in harm’s way to protect us.


87 posted on 10/06/2013 3:51:10 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Let me hear what God the LORD will speak. -Ps85)
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To: EVO X

I would suggest just ignoring it and keeping your mouth shut. It has been a rough 5 years for many people on main street and they are venting...


It hasn’t been anywhere else I guess. I lost a $50,000 per year job with a company car, gas, insurance, lodging and food when I traveled which was all but 2 weekends a month.

I’ve been there I have a right to say what I’d like.


88 posted on 10/06/2013 3:51:31 PM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: Nuocmam; t1b8zs

Do you realize that if you have a government pension and you have fully contributed to Social Security in other employment, your Soc. Sec. is reduced? Some people are willing to get off their tails and “EARN” pensions from several sources!


Ain’t that the truth! If you sign for survivor benefits that is further reduced upon death of the veteran. After my dad died, it was almost laughable what my mom was left with DESPITE the fact that he paid into the system for all those years so she’d have the benefit.


89 posted on 10/06/2013 3:53:47 PM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: Bigg Red

Thank you!


90 posted on 10/06/2013 3:54:30 PM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: coldflamingo
I retired in 1975 as a Platoon SGT (E7)

Retired from the military at the age of 42, good for you! So why didn't you ever pursue employment in the private sector? I'd have gone nuts just sitting around doing nothing.........

91 posted on 10/06/2013 3:54:58 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Ms. Muffett suffered from arachnophobia)
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To: US Navy Vet

Greens Keeper?


92 posted on 10/06/2013 4:11:58 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: US Navy Vet
Same here.

Back to training our newest Airman in their cyber career fields.

93 posted on 10/06/2013 4:19:52 PM PDT by Rivendell ("Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it " - Pope John Paul II 1920 -- 2005)
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To: leapfrog0202
I’ve been there I have a right to say what I’d like.

I am not really trying picking on you, but have you made a contribution to FR? There is no constitutional right to post stuff on private web sites. I am your side BTW...

94 posted on 10/06/2013 4:21:37 PM PDT by EVO X
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To: leapfrog0202
Very few people that have served our country, unless they are Generals or very long serving Colonels can afford to retire on their retirement pay that so many worry about

Every military retiree I know has retired in their 40's and gone on to get good jobs in the private sector......So retiring at the age of 40+ and staying retired is certainly a personal choice and yes, nobody is expecting them to live on their reduced pensions......That's why they go on and get jobs.

95 posted on 10/06/2013 4:31:18 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Ms. Muffett suffered from arachnophobia)
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To: yldstrk

I’m guessing that you left so you could make the big bucks on the outside with that law degree of yours. How’s that working out for you?


96 posted on 10/06/2013 4:44:44 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: CodeToad

There was a time some people could “double”, even “triple” dip. Federal law doesn’t allow federal double dipping any longer.

There are some of us who will end up with about 40 years employment between military and federal service who still have no promise of any retirement, except from what God Himself provides. We live paycheck to paycheck and over the course of 10 years have saved up enough to last us 1-6 months of adversity.

Obama has already eaten that up.

I rely on God for provision of security through faith in Christ. This furlough was intended to cause evil, but through faith in Him, has promoted perseverance.

Thank you Lord.


97 posted on 10/06/2013 4:46:24 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr

Well if you weren’t paying into SocSec, weren’t you participating in CSRS?


98 posted on 10/06/2013 4:55:25 PM PDT by nascarnation (Democrats control the Presidency, Senate, and Media. It's an uphill climb....)
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To: US Navy Vet

Congress has voted to pay all the furloughed gov’t employees. They should all be ordered to return to work


99 posted on 10/06/2013 5:00:51 PM PDT by Figment
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To: Hot Tabasco
Does that new job as a presumed contractor include a pension?

Vet doesn't say, but he could be either a government contractor or a government employee. The military retirement system is a vestige of a centuries old system called half pay where they could put you "on the beach" with half pay, but you were liable to be called back if they needed you. True today, but much more complex. While you become eligible to retire at 20 years service, if you leave at 19 years you get zip. A very high bar, no vesting or equity before you hit eligibility. You wannta sign up for that. Every military member gets, in writing, once a year a notice explaining how much their compensation really is because of the retirement benefit. Pay is suppressed to account for the fact that you are not paying into retirement. There is no free lunch.

Since the military is a young person's game, you don't get to stick around until you are 65 or 70. You're gone early without enough to live on and years before Social Security. So, you get another job. If you get a government job, the pension today works like a 401K - you pay in and the government matches a certain amount. You start over at zero paying in. Same with government contract work. Your company may or may not have it's own 401K and you pay in according to their rules.

Most people's biggest asset is their home. They buy as soon as they can and build equity over the years in hopes of owning their home outright upon retirement. Very few in the military can manage to do this with frequent moves, overseas assignments, often these moves come at very bad times in the housing markets. Many military people have lost their shirts in the housing market because of the demands of service.

If it's such a cushy deal, why aren't people beating down the doors at the recruiting offices so that they can jump on the gravy train? Why didn't you? Tobasco comes in the rations these days, but I guess that you wouldn't know that.

Thanks vets, all of you.

100 posted on 10/06/2013 5:07:24 PM PDT by centurion316
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