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A Georgia Tech researcher asks: Where are the black students in science, math?
Atlanta Journal Constitution ^ | 9:43 p.m. Monday, Sept. 16, 2013 | Kamau Bobb

Posted on 09/17/2013 6:53:55 PM PDT by Pan_Yan

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71 percent of the 2,500 black students in APS who took the Mathematics II exam in 2011, failed and only 1 percent, 25 students, passed with distinction (Pass Plus). By contrast, only 21 percent of white students failed with 79 percent passing and 23 percent of those passing with distinction.

In Fulton County, where 62 percent of black students failed the Mathematics II exam, 90 percent of the white students passed, 32 percent with distinction. The failure rates and achievement gaps throughout most of the school districts in the metro-Atlanta area are astonishing.

The consequence of this reality is that black students are excluded from much of the STEM conversation and are nearly entirely excluded from the higher level STEM education discourse. For the incoming 2013 freshman class of first time full time freshmen at Georgia Tech, for example, there were only 61 applicants from the entire Atlanta Public School system, nearly 2,500 seniors. Of those 61 applicants, 26 were admitted and 15 have enrolled.

Despite APS being 79 percent black students, only 28 percent, or 17 applicants, of the total applicants from APS were black. Of those 17 applicants, only 1 black freshman was admitted.

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TOPICS: Education; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: atlanta; blackstudents; education; georgiatech; highereducation; missing; stem
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To: dfwgator

LOL!


81 posted on 09/17/2013 8:55:26 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Big Red Badger

http://takimag.com/article/the_talk_nonblack_version_john_derbyshire/print#axzz2c4GaJxGN

This might have been it. Talking about black mob violence, with one of the factors being the odds of having an idiot in the crowd to do something stupid that gets everyone all riled up.

11) The mean intelligence of blacks is much lower than for whites. The least intelligent ten percent of whites have IQs below 81; forty percent of blacks have IQs that low. Only one black in six is more intelligent than the average white; five whites out of six are more intelligent than the average black. These differences show in every test of general cognitive ability that anyone, of any race or nationality, has yet been able to devise. They are reflected in countless everyday situations. “Life is an IQ test.”

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82 posted on 09/17/2013 8:56:37 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: NonValueAdded

Where are the Black leaders???

The same place they are in Africa, taking advantage of the stupidity culture to live like NBA players.


83 posted on 09/17/2013 9:00:04 PM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: Pan_Yan

They’re mostly playing college basketball and football on full rides or making millions playing pro because kids who graduated grow up and are also making good money — but not millions — keep watching them on TV or fill the stands on game days which allows the schools to give them those full rides and the pro teams to pay them millions.

BTW, while those grown up kids spend hours each week watching these other kids play with their balls, the country circles the drain.

That’s happened before. I believe the Romans called it “bread and circuses”.


84 posted on 09/17/2013 9:00:10 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is not bliss. It is the road to serfdom.)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Excuse all you want, but the IQ Test that counts is the one that leads to a good higher education.

The IQ to sell street dope or escape from hungry lions is and will get any culture nowhere, as we are seeing.


85 posted on 09/17/2013 9:05:32 PM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: Pan_Yan

Considering the black population is well fed, has housing, ghetto beats, and drugs, hell, what more do they want? Math, science? Why? I mean, why be the sucker paying for everything if yo gots wat u be needin anyhows?


86 posted on 09/17/2013 9:13:55 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I suspect that many black students would do better if they weren’t dragged down by other blacks who berate them for “acting white”.

AMEN>>>>>AMEN!!!!!!!!I was a correctional officer in a maximum security juvenile facility and you couldn't be more right. The kids who acted as though they wanted to straighten up and get out of the ghetto mentality were harrassed by the others. I soon came to realize that the tough guys had to try to intimidate the others because that's all the authority they would ever have in their lives. When confronted with that fact, the "leaders" or tough group would get very upset and sometimes threaten me !!!!(big mistake) as we FORCED counseling on everyone and FORCED education on them, many got their GED's and actually became pretty nice kids. There would often be follow ups from them after they left the facility....VERY rewarding!!!

87 posted on 09/17/2013 9:14:34 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: noinfringers2

No, LBJ knew the dems could buy Black’s votes for just enough “government” money to keep em fed and happy for 15 minute intervals.


88 posted on 09/17/2013 9:16:58 PM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: Paradox

Agreed. I believe it is a cultural issue.


89 posted on 09/17/2013 9:17:40 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Pan_Yan

The bigotry of low expectations.


90 posted on 09/17/2013 9:21:32 PM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: Pan_Yan

Where are they?

Lying bleeding in gutters and parks, beaten, maimed, or even killed by “real blacks” that can’t tolerate being “dissed” by oreo Uncle Toms, who value studying, hard work, and personal success; and don’t want to bragged down by welfare, drugs, gangs, early pregnancy, and general thuggery.


91 posted on 09/17/2013 9:24:04 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: X-spurt
Excuse all you want, but the IQ Test that counts is the one that leads to a good higher education. The IQ to sell street dope or escape from hungry lions is and will get any culture nowhere, as we are seeing.

I.Q. and common sense do not necessarily go hand in hand...I have known and still do, people who are brilliant, but who I would not let baby sit my kids...

commen sense tells you what to do in a situation that requires a certain amount of thought process. I.Q. tells you how to build a bridge...common sense suggests that you use it to span a river.

92 posted on 09/17/2013 9:29:29 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: Pan_Yan

Of the hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of Nobel Prizes awarded in math, physics, chemistry and economics since 1901, blacks worldwide, at about 20% of the population) have won one. (Jews, at o.2% of the world’s population, have won a couple hundred.)


93 posted on 09/17/2013 9:33:48 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: yarddog
I do recall that Math and abstract reasoning were their weak points but he considered them close to equal to whites in verbal skills.

"Biased testing." "Differences of IQ types that aren't measured on standard tests." "Do not 'test well' for many various & sundry reasons." Other Lib excuses.

Consider, however, HOW their ancestors were 'selected' for shipment: it was NOT for intelligence.

OTOH, people like to toss out the high performance of Asian students, and call it "cultural".

Again, consider that the Asian population, to a much greater extent, has SELF SELECTED for immigration for reasons of IMPROVING their lot; and to flee from persecution of intelligence and education. Naturally, cultural norms of valuing hard work and study apply to the Asian students, just as the opposite applies to a huge proportion of the black "students"; but the base mental material is very different.

94 posted on 09/17/2013 9:43:24 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: Paradox

I grew up believing it was 100% cultural.

My best guess now is that those who study such things are probably right, and though a good chunk of it is cultural a perhaps larger chunk is due to different genetic averages.

That doesn’t mean that much shouldn’t still be done on the cultural side, it only means that expecting totally equal results among different populations may not be realistic.


95 posted on 09/17/2013 10:00:05 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Gene Eric

There is actually an inverse correlation between IQ and criminality.


96 posted on 09/17/2013 10:11:32 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Pan_Yan

Instead of blaming whites for everything....blacks need to take responsibility for their own actions

Math formulas don’t get more difficult because a black person is working it


97 posted on 09/17/2013 10:35:09 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (I still remember when anyone considered trading with Communist enemy...they were executed)
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To: Dagnabitt

98 posted on 09/17/2013 11:42:13 PM PDT by Daffynition (*In memory of FReeper Blackie. God rest his *Hooligan* soul.*)
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To: keats5
I don’t think it’s a black phenomenon, as much as an American black culture phenomenon.>

It's the toxic American black culture. I grew up with black people who were not part of such culture, but came from families who emphasized the importance of education, and so they became achievers, before affirmative action.

No ethnic group has ever become mainstreamed without strong familial support for the education of their brightest and most capable children.
99 posted on 09/18/2013 12:27:07 AM PDT by Nepeta
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To: Pan_Yan

Well, when I was at Tech I think i had only two or three black classmates in Double-E.


100 posted on 09/18/2013 2:58:53 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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