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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD VOLUME 23 JUNE 7, 2013
Free Republic | June 7, 2013 | greeneyes

Posted on 06/07/2013 1:13:59 PM PDT by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread ... there is no telling where it will go and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!


TOPICS: Gardening
KEYWORDS: agriculture; blackberries; food; gardening; growbags; hobby
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To: tubebender

Oh No! Your beautiful garlic. What can be done about it? Any way to keep it from spreading, or has it already hit the whole crop?


141 posted on 06/08/2013 11:47:49 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: handmade

I could not find the class size online, but it is limited to a small group as I remember. If they would survey or try once to have evening classes, I believe it would work. It’s only once per year that they do it anyway, how difficult could it be to find 12-15 people for an evening class every year? I might would take it in the evenings, too. Just my opinion, who am I?


142 posted on 06/09/2013 2:57:38 AM PDT by rightly_dividing (Tagline: It's gone again.)
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To: greeneyes

Wow! The blackberies that grow wild all over the deep south are not bushes but vines. I have never imagined a blackberry two feet tall. The same kind are here in Texas, but not as plentiful as Alabama.


143 posted on 06/09/2013 3:03:52 AM PDT by rightly_dividing (Tagline: It's gone again.)
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To: greeneyes

There are a number of people who grow container tomatoes inside during the winter...there are probably videos on YouTube, since everything else seems to be on there.


144 posted on 06/09/2013 5:04:51 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: tubebender

Thank you tubebender. Does the rust hurt the garlic bulb?
It looks rather pitiful.


145 posted on 06/09/2013 7:20:21 AM PDT by tillacum
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To: greeneyes

LOL! It’s infectious, isn’t it? Darlin’ has been allowing me to do my thing and isn’t interfering with my experiments, and has been supportive with helping me move things, advice, etc but lately, has also been taking a little more active role in other yard and gardening projects.


146 posted on 06/09/2013 8:18:31 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: tillacum; greeneyes

If you think the garlic is pitiful you should see the look on my face. All I can do is wait until the end of the month to see how they fill out


147 posted on 06/09/2013 8:43:23 AM PDT by tubebender (Evening news is where they begin with "Good Evening," and then proceed to tell you why it isn't.)
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To: rightly_dividing

Well phooey, I guess my pinky did something. I lost my msg before I was ready to send. My point was, “just my opinion, who am I ?” You are one less volunteer they can utilize, and volunteers do not just fall out of the sky.

On the other hand, in Nebraska, the Master Gardener information is online through the University of Nebraska which is a land grant university- there is good information there one can download, print, or just read.

I have found both Minnesota and Texas have very applicable information for me in south central Nebraska. Not all, but alot.

Good luck- lots of fun to learn the principle behind the why it does or does not work.


148 posted on 06/09/2013 4:49:21 PM PDT by handmade
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To: Sarajevo; texas_mrs
texas_mrs: I planted what I thought was 2 TAM jalapenos for my husband, but they seem to be Serrano peppers instead. One was fiery hot, others have decent flavor but no heat, and some have no heat OR flavor. Don’t know enough about them to know what to do.

Sarajevo: I have jalapeno plants that are 4 years old, growing in a greenhouse. If your constantly water them, the peppers should grow to a decent size, but they won't be as hot as the one's that are watered less. The peppers that I've grown in pots produce less and only last 1 season. Those grown outside produce well, but they will be killed by frosts/freezes unless you build a cold frame around them for protection in the winter.

This is the second year my over-wintered jalapenos have been in ground. San Antonio had a rather mild Winter, so wasn't very hard to nurse them through what passed for light freezes.

Last year the peppers were red hot. This Spring they're tame and lame in the heat department. Then, my father-in-law gave me a slap-my-forehead moment.

Just like Sarajevo said, jalapenos thrive on hot, dry weather. Our Spring has been rather mild and I've watered them every other day, plus we've had a few decent rains which made watering really unnecessary. Voila, I have a bumper crop of very large, ultra-mild red jalapeno peppers almost good enough to pretend they're misshapen baby bells. :-).

The Summer heat is about to ponce upon us and I'll cut way back on the water. I've picked all the ripe pods and will wait to see what happens next. I also have three Biker Billy plants ready to put in the ground. That ought to give me a good comparison.

So, in my case, looks like I did it to myself.

149 posted on 06/09/2013 6:12:42 PM PDT by Racehorse
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To: greeneyes

Huh. So a bit like container gardening.

I am mixing some mush. compost in when I fine rake prior to planting. Today I got lazy and just chucked some into the hole and stuck the plant on top. Figured I’m getting stuff in so late what with late freezes and three days of rain, it can’t hurt! Can’t plant anything here before June 1 - except peas and a few hearty veg. seeds. Oh, and herbs.

My few hens gave me manure which I dumped in during the winter. That will help, but I wish our composter was ready to be emptied.

Right now we still have “dirt”. I aspire to have “soil” within the next two or three years.


150 posted on 06/09/2013 10:03:24 PM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: handmade
Whatever state a person lives in, the master gardener program is well worth the time spent to learn so much about gardening in their specific area, in a short period of time, seven weeks here. My wife just got back home yesterday evening from the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia where she spent a few days with her sister that had just completed the MG program there. They visited several gardens and talked gardening the entire time, I'm sure, and compared notes on the differences between Texas and N. Kali.

If I were in better shape, I probably would take the MG program here, but the ground keeps getting farther and farther away from me, so that I can hardly even see it anymore, much less reach it. All the resources of the ext agent are available to me anyhow if I should need any assistance.

I hope that your garden is doing well and is producing already or getting close. We are now enjoying sliced tomatos with our meals each day, which is why we do it. Looking forward to watermelons this year, too, sometime next month. Happy gardening to ya!

151 posted on 06/10/2013 4:22:54 AM PDT by rightly_dividing (Tagline: It's gone again.)
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To: greeneyes

Not much going on in my garden at the moment aside from pulling a few weeds and watching things grow. I did harvest some broccoli a few days ago. It’s pretty tasty stuff. So much better than store-bought.


152 posted on 06/10/2013 6:47:35 AM PDT by Augie
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To: Black Agnes

Do you know what variety your ‘compost ‘mater’ is?


153 posted on 06/10/2013 6:57:40 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: who knows what evil?

Some roma type I suspect. We had a bag of them from the grocery store a few months back.

We’ll soon see :)


154 posted on 06/10/2013 6:58:27 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

Roma is good.


155 posted on 06/10/2013 7:00:55 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: who knows what evil?

It’s better than the drowned half dead maters i’ve got in the garden right now. That’s for sure.

We’re still waiting to set out the super hots. They’re about 12” tall in their giant cups. We’ll probably put them in a raised bed just so they don’t absolutely drown and we can cover them at frost this fall.

I’m still amazed I lost maters to frost the first week of MAY at my house.


156 posted on 06/10/2013 7:02:08 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes
Memorial Day weekend; three feet of snow in some areas; overnight lows right around 33 -34 (didn't get the snow, but got the cold)...the following weekend; three days at 92-93...this past weekend, plenty of rain from Andrea...finally got everybody in their containers last night, and right on frickin' cue; ANOTHER coastal rain storm with wind out of the northeast to beat up my poor seedlings before they can get adjusted,,,

I know Red Hampshire is under G-d's judgement...it rains on the just and unjust, I guess. :-)

157 posted on 06/10/2013 7:12:53 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: texas_mrs

Overlooked in your post your plants are TAM, which are mild to begin with.

Sampled one of my picked red jalapenos last night. Full of full-throttle heat. Had to wipe the sweat off my forehead.

Wife had a good laugh.

She suggested I might amend my previous comment. Heat seems to vary even among pods on the same plant.

So, the question reverts, what makes a really hot jalapeno?


158 posted on 06/10/2013 9:05:25 AM PDT by Racehorse
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To: greeneyes
I call this bed Potato Surprise as I planted it last fall and it got wiped out by a early frost then the Ravens packed off the plant labels identifying them…

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On the left is Red Gold that had sprouted in my shed during winter and on the right is Yukon Gold that I bought new at the feed store and planted a week later…

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159 posted on 06/10/2013 9:37:41 AM PDT by tubebender (Evening news is where they begin with "Good Evening," and then proceed to tell you why it isn't.)
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To: tubebender
I stupidly put my compost pile by a fence, and had a lot of problems working it from just 2 sides, so I moved it this morning and am prepping the area where it was as an extension of my herb/salad garden.

/johnny

160 posted on 06/10/2013 10:08:56 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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