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ĎPeople Think Itís Overí Spared Death, Aging People With H.I.V. Struggle to Live
New York Times ^ | 06/01/13 | John Leland

Posted on 06/02/2013 1:52:17 PM PDT by jocon307

Steve Schalchlin would be the first to tell you he lives in a time of miracles, and about how hard that can be. In 1995, as his body wasted away from AIDS, he took the limited time in front of him as a challenge: he would write songs, make amends, fill his remaining days with life. And by the end, with his digestive system shut down, his figure skeletal, he was ready to die. Then he won a lottery for a new AIDS drug that had been rushed through the approval process. Almost overnight his health began to return, and with it, another, more open-ended, challenge: life...

Suddenly the future seemed like this long, empty road going toward the horizon, and I felt like, what am I gonna do with my life now?” Mr. Schalchlin, 59, said the other day, still marveling at the turn of events. “I had already accomplished all my goals that I had set for myself. And now I had this endless amount of time ahead of me, and I felt depressed.”

Mr. Schalchlin no longer worries about dying of AIDS. But he has other health problems, more often seen in people 10 or 20 years older: kidney damage, diabetes, chronic fatigue, thyroid disease, partial paralysis in one eye and general weakness that limits him throughout the day.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: aids; homosexualagenda
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I'm probably not posting this for the best reasons, although it is very interesting. I didn't even read the whole article.

But all I know is my beloved brother died of AIDS in 1995 and right now I'm feeling he just missed a cure. And it is making me very, very sad.

Yeah, my brother was a fagela, but please don't bash.

I just had to post this, and I'm sure the article is very interesting from a science/medical perspective.

Maybe I'll read the rest of it later.

1 posted on 06/02/2013 1:52:17 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: jocon307
a 100% preventable disease gets a billion dollars for R&D yet Hep-C? nothing... feh
2 posted on 06/02/2013 1:58:50 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: jocon307
Hate the sin, love the sinner.

Sorry for your loss.

/johnny

3 posted on 06/02/2013 1:58:55 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Chode

If the obese and the smokers have to pay higher medical premiums under ObamaCare because of their “risky behavior,” surely homosexuals should as well. To do otherwise is overt discrimination because the expense to keep them alive is staggering.


4 posted on 06/02/2013 2:02:44 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: jocon307
Seems like a lot of empty lives of people wondering what they are going to do when they are old (which they are on the cusp).

Wonder if they would have done anything different.

When Mr. Davis, 62, learned he had H.I.V. in the late 1980s and then watched a partner die, he said, “I partied harder. Took every drug in the world. I took all the money out of my 401(k) and spent it.” He quit his job, ended up homeless and dependent on the city’s H.I.V./AIDS Services Administration.

5 posted on 06/02/2013 2:03:41 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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But he has other health problems, more often seen in people 10 or 20 years older: kidney damage, diabetes, chronic fatigue, thyroid disease

How about his "gay" bowel syndrome? Such a splendid lifestyle this mental disorder enables..........

6 posted on 06/02/2013 2:05:39 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: txrefugee
100%
7 posted on 06/02/2013 2:08:29 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: jocon307

The column is a sad one.

I’m sorry for your loss of your dear brother.


8 posted on 06/02/2013 2:09:55 PM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: jocon307

Actions/behaviors-——————————>Reactions/consequences


9 posted on 06/02/2013 2:12:26 PM PDT by JPG (Stay strong.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Thank you johnny!


10 posted on 06/02/2013 2:13:18 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: txrefugee
If the obese and the smokers have to pay higher medical premiums under ObamaCare because of their “risky behavior,” surely homosexuals should as well. To do otherwise is overt discrimination because the expense to keep them alive is staggering.

Of course, one of the primary reasons liberals want government subsidized and controlled health-care is because it creates a rationalization for government to control, incentivize and financially punish the behavior of private citizens. Regardless of the specific behavior being encouraged or punished, the end-result is more government control of the way individuals live their lives.
11 posted on 06/02/2013 2:13:38 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: doorgunner69

Pardon my ignorance, but what is “gay bowel syndrome”? Too many damaging “thrusts” I’m guessing.


12 posted on 06/02/2013 2:13:49 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: jocon307
So sorry about your brother..my thoughts are not about anyone specific but just in general....

you know, the article cries out for martyrdom..

..I'm not in the mood......I've got arthritis seemingly in every joint of my body, including my hands...yet I need to keep working to pay the bills....and I'm nearly 60...

I feel the same way about these types of stories as I do about alcoholics seeking liver transplants at the taxpayer dime....where was the common sense when it was needed...

I have several members of my extended family that are gay...on bil has had several different partners, all have died, but I don't think from AIDS....one nephew is young and hopefully being very careful...

I also have a counsin in law dying of ALS...since her late 40's....not pretty....

I've understood that there was a whole mindset of HIV positive gay men "giving" HIV to others knowingly and many not HIV positive gay men "seeking" it......how twisted is that?...

its just difficult drumming up concern for these peoples' "middle age" problems....a lot of us have lived sensible lives, working,raising children, paying the tax man...when will get an article written about our trials and tribulations..

13 posted on 06/02/2013 2:15:58 PM PDT by cherry
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To: WXRGina

Thank you Gina, it just kind of freaked me out.

oh how I miss my brother, he was a great cut-up and while I wouldn’t say he was “conservative” he was equal opportunity and rather fearless.

While I’m very happy my staunch republican mom didn’t live to see the current admin I regret my brother didn’t. I’m sure his mockery of Obama and co. would have had us rolling on the floor.


14 posted on 06/02/2013 2:18:27 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: OldPossum
Ya know... some questions are best not asked.

/johnny

15 posted on 06/02/2013 2:19:35 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: OldPossum

same as normal woman have loose uterus?

you seen those pictures floating around on the inet that makes fun of women with too many kids? “vagina: it’s not a clown car”

we need to make fun of lesbians more, they’re more of a threat to our society being fem-nazis. I’m having trouble coming up with anything.


16 posted on 06/02/2013 2:20:22 PM PDT by VAFreedom (maybe i should take a nap before work)
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To: jocon307

My brother is going through the same thing.


17 posted on 06/02/2013 2:21:33 PM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: jocon307

I’m very sorry to hear about your brother. I turned 18 in ‘78 and all my neighbors where I moved to were gay men. We started hanging out together and they were my friends and I loved them. They are almost all dead now. For several years.

The homosexual life is a sinful life and people living in it need to fall to their knees in submission to God, just like ALL of us need to for ALL of our sins. But it sure doesn’t mean we like to see them die and they need to hear the truth. Homosexuality, unlike any other sinful lifestyle, is applauded in society and those that say there’s hope; there’s a choice, are lambasted and destroyed. I truly feel for gays; they are trapped in a dark web.


18 posted on 06/02/2013 2:21:39 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

“Regardless of the specific behavior being encouraged or punished, the end-result is more government control of the way individuals live their lives.”

Yes, and I’m sure we’ve all seen enough “twilight zones” to know how that turns out


19 posted on 06/02/2013 2:22:09 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: JRandomFreeper

So, I guessed right, huh?


20 posted on 06/02/2013 2:28:08 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: jocon307

Interesting article.


21 posted on 06/02/2013 2:28:28 PM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: cherry

Funny you mention that. I watched my 29 yo non drinking/drug taking wife die of liver cancer when she was denied a transplant the very same week Mickey Mantle got his....


22 posted on 06/02/2013 2:28:54 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: OldPossum
Don't know. Don't want to know. Dang sure don't want details.

/johnny

23 posted on 06/02/2013 2:30:34 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Just dammit.

/johnny

24 posted on 06/02/2013 2:31:42 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: cherry

“I also have a counsin in law dying of ALS...since her late
40’s....not pretty....”

Oh dear, that is really the worst. My mom’s friend died of that. She was the most dignified, even queenly woman. The first clue was she “went off” in a local shop, so bad that they called the cops. At first we thought is was just a menopausal thing (again, don’t bash me) but it was way worse than that. It was all dreadful.

And then not that long after that my brother’s good friend (just a friend) died of AIDS. He was such a little mouse that guy, you really wouldn’t think such a thing would affect him.

And those 2 deaths got to me; but of course there were more to come, sadly.


25 posted on 06/02/2013 2:32:38 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: JRandomFreeper

Yea it was quite the slap in the face.


26 posted on 06/02/2013 2:33:12 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: jocon307

He sounds like a really fun and funny guy (this communist administration would certainly have given him plenty of fodder!).

I know you’ll always miss him.


27 posted on 06/02/2013 2:33:33 PM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: AppyPappy

Something to consider for your brother (and the other poster with arthritis)is that most of these symptoms (high blood pressure, depression, diabetes, arthritis, and many others) are caused by magnesium deficiency. Mag is alkaline and causes inflammation to subside. It also is necessary for calcium to dissolve and absorb. Arthritis is calcified crystals around the joints.

Take 800-900 mg of mag malate or mag glyinate per day and you’ll see huge strides in general health.


28 posted on 06/02/2013 2:33:58 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: jocon307
no harshness here

Many people I love have died of aids. I say love, because you don't stop loving them just because they die.

I wish they lived long enough for the cure too.
29 posted on 06/02/2013 2:35:21 PM PDT by novemberslady
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Yes, and I’m sure we’ve all seen enough “twilight zones” to know how that turns out

Or we can look at NYC right now, and see a mayor criminalizing the sales of large sodas. This punishes the seller, but it's inefficient and rouses public anger. Government health-care enables the government to avoid the hassle and lobbying resistance involved in banning one product at a time and directly punish taxpayers who choose to have one steak too many or one Pepsi too many. It also pits taxpayers against each other in a 'if A is being penalized, B should be penalized too' contest which ends up with more and more private behaviors becoming the business of government.
30 posted on 06/02/2013 2:37:06 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: jocon307

thank you for posting this... just recently i was wondering about the treatment of AIDS and how people are living with the disease now a days... specifically, i was wondering when treatment started prolonging lives to the extent that it now does...


31 posted on 06/02/2013 2:37:16 PM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: scripter

Ping


32 posted on 06/02/2013 2:38:30 PM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: AppyPappy

I’m sorry for you AppyPappay. You have my sympathy.


33 posted on 06/02/2013 2:39:53 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: VAFreedom

“vagina: it’s not a clown car”

LOL, ok that’s bad, but it’s kind of funny too.


34 posted on 06/02/2013 2:42:39 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: latina4dubya

You are welcome, it is amazing they’ve made such progress.

Via “hot air” I should have given them a tip o’ the hat when I posted. That shows how freaked out I really was.


35 posted on 06/02/2013 2:49:10 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: jocon307

I am very sorry luv for your loss. It could happen to ANY of us. So sorry. May your experience help fight for a cure. You are Loved. So was your beloved Brother.

poobear...


36 posted on 06/02/2013 2:49:32 PM PDT by poobear (Socialism in the minds of the elites, is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Sure, and no doubt that a. they will go too far and b. they will exempt themselves


37 posted on 06/02/2013 2:53:50 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: txrefugee

“If the obese and the smokers have to pay higher medical premiums under ObamaCare because of their “risky behavior,” surely homosexuals should as well.”

Homosexuals will probably get free medical care. The little faggots ought to be paying every nickel they earn to insurance as they wanted “gay marriage” simply to get employer spousal medical benefits. It was during the early 1980s the little fags started contracting and dying of AIDS they decided to demand spousal medical insurance.

Homosexuality is a choice; a lifestyle they practice. It is not a genetic disorder as proven by identical twins where one choses homosexuality but the other does not.

Their sexual perversions know no bounds.


38 posted on 06/02/2013 2:54:36 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: VAFreedom

just start every lesbian joke with “pardon me,sir”...


39 posted on 06/02/2013 2:54:57 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: poobear

Thanks poobear!


40 posted on 06/02/2013 2:57:20 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: Norm Lenhart

Sweet Jesus Norm, what a loss! I Pray you finally get closure.
luv, poobear


41 posted on 06/02/2013 2:59:22 PM PDT by poobear (Socialism in the minds of the elites, is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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To: poobear

I’ve long since dealt with it overall. But it still irks me. Got plenty of med issues of my own so I tend to stay up on med research/advances. What I’ll never get past is that normal people/illnesses get put by the wayside in favor of self inflicted idiocy as long as fame or a cause de’celebre can be exploited. THAT really gets me good.

But then such is our world.


42 posted on 06/02/2013 3:07:27 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: txrefugee
If the obese and the smokers have to pay higher medical premiums under ObamaCare because of their “risky behavior,” surely homosexuals should as well.

Furthermore, if the nanny gummint can ban high-capacity sodas and tobacco, why can't they at least discourage homosexuality, if not ban it outright?

Oh, that's right. We're only a "collective" when it moves the agenda to the left.

43 posted on 06/02/2013 3:09:08 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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I can find sympathy for *some* Americans with AIDS.Certain people overseas...in Africa,for example...are an entirely different matter to be discussed at another time.One class of Americans I can sympathize with are women who truly didn't know her husbands were "sleeping" with guys or that he was shooting drugs.I also have sympathy for those who contracted AIDS in the womb.OTOH,junkies,perverts or those who *knowingly* slept with junkie and perverts,hookers and customers of hookers...NO SYMPATHY!

Not a single bit.

44 posted on 06/02/2013 3:09:33 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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To: jocon307

My beloved brother-in-law also died of AIDS in 1992. He got it in the very early years. I’m so glad they’ve got the drugs now to extend lives, but it is also sad what those people still have to live with, especially the depression and loneliness. You may not approve of the lifestyles that resulted in the HIV but you have to have compassion as a fellow human being and thus fellow sinner. Remembering that we’re all in need of God’s grace pretty much levels everything out.


45 posted on 06/02/2013 3:10:36 PM PDT by madmominct
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To: jocon307

Thank you for posting this article. I’m so sorry about your brother. It’s hard to lose those we love, no matter the reason.


46 posted on 06/02/2013 3:29:34 PM PDT by quilterdebbie (We will endeavor to persevere!)
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To: Chode

Years ago when I was a much more virile man I enjoyed fishing fast moving streams in my hip waders. I knew from being told and personal experience that deep fast moving water can be a real danger. There were times when I barley escaped from my foolishness. I still keep in my mind those fishing lessons as to many other happenings in one’s life. As such I view premeditated reckless and life threatening actions/choices in very much the same light. I can’t get caring emotional about people who by their own choice involve themselves in dangerous unhealthy activities.


47 posted on 06/02/2013 3:36:54 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: OldPossum

Think “adult diapers but not for pee”.


48 posted on 06/02/2013 3:41:32 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: madmominct

Evens everything out?

Nope, it does not. We all need God’s mercy but engaging in utterly egregious behavior means such a person is rejecting His mercy. Everything is not all the same.


49 posted on 06/02/2013 3:43:11 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: jocon307

So did this Steve feller give up same sex sodomy or does he carry on with the “gay” life?

Rhetorical question, maybe the answer is in the (no doubt very lenghty) NYT article. I guess I could click the link.


50 posted on 06/02/2013 3:44:47 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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