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Tebow’s Freeze Out
The Sports Economist ^ | May 9, 2013 | Brian Goff

Posted on 05/11/2013 6:47:46 AM PDT by 1rudeboy

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To: discostu

“They ignore the fact that the Denver defense shaved 15 points of their average allowed for his reign (or somehow credit him with it) “

I’ m no Tebow fanatic , but a little observation would show that a notable part of that was due to his not putting his defense in a bad spot - and further he certainly seemed to get his defense to perform better and with more confidence.. Not to compare him with Brady overall, but in 2001, the Pats defense responded to Brady the same way. Trent Dilfer also helped his team out a lot by not taking risks with the ball. There is definitely something to be said for each the leadership displayed and that style of play.

“and studiously ignore how often he had 10 or fewer completions in a game.”

A Running first down and a passing first down aren’t all that different...except that when you execute your defense and a player who isn’t “supposed” to be making the play makes the conversion a few times it is demoralizing.


41 posted on 05/12/2013 2:50:07 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: stormer

“No coach in his right mind is going to take what is probably his most expensive (and valuable) asset and let him get pounded virtually every play, and for the run option to be an effective threat, that’s what’s going to happen. “

That’s a big issue, and one that applies to all of the run option quarterbacks… Not just Tebow. Vick gets blown up just about every year and people wonder why.


42 posted on 05/12/2013 2:52:35 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

Or maybe they just came together. That season thanks to the strikes defense struggled early. League wide defensive numbers improved dramatically in the second month.

10 total receptions in a game is bad QBing, period. 2 is utterly pathetic. He’s done that. His overall numbers are just plain bad. Very few passes, very few competitions, very low competition percentage, bad TD to turnover ratio. In the end you can see exactly why he was 3rd on the depth chart.


43 posted on 05/12/2013 3:07:05 PM PDT by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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To: discostu

The guy need to realize that he can extend his NFL career if he switches to tight end, H-back, or perhaps linebacker.

Otherwise he should think about heading to Canada football.


44 posted on 05/12/2013 3:10:03 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: lepton

In college everybody knows guys are only going to be around for a short time, so why not grind them up? There’s always another recruit lined up...


45 posted on 05/12/2013 3:37:12 PM PDT by stormer
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To: nascarnation

Tebow in the CFL? No way - all they do is pass.


46 posted on 05/12/2013 3:41:27 PM PDT by stormer
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To: Gil4
" If that same boss had already given you reason to distrust him, or at least reason to belieeve that organization wasn’t a very good fit, wouldn’t you probably say “Thanks, but I’ll look elsewhere”? "

Y'know what? You've got a point so far as coach Ryan is concerned... but understand, to not do what Ryan wants is in fact "a career decision".

Let's see what happens... maybe the jags or someone else will pick him up as a backup. I personally think his natural position in the NFL is at TE/H-back.

I also think he would do well to stop upstaging his team and management wherever he is, i.e. "Tebowing" on the sideline, etc. He would do more for his cause if he were more like Colt McCoy or certain other QB's I could mention, who are professing Christians and don't mind people knowing it, and leave it at that.

47 posted on 05/12/2013 3:41:53 PM PDT by OKSooner
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To: Gil4

Curt Warner.


48 posted on 05/12/2013 3:43:19 PM PDT by OKSooner
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To: Gil4

Kitna. Yeah, Kitna was the other guy I was thinking of. Also Sam Bradford and probably several others.


49 posted on 05/12/2013 3:44:25 PM PDT by OKSooner
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To: lepton

I found him exciting when he was at Denver. However, men who know the game, AND COACH IT and want to make “megabucks” apparently do not think he can do the job hence he is not selected. I don’t think one must posit a vast sports conspiracy to explain Tebow’s failing to be selected.


50 posted on 05/12/2013 4:12:20 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Conspiracy? I doubt it… At least not a deliberate one.

Failure to see past preconceived notions? A lack of creativity? Entirely possible.

The guy who did have a vision for him is on a team that would have no use for at least half the starting quarterbacks in the NFL.


51 posted on 05/12/2013 4:43:45 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: discostu

If you are referring to the Jets, he wasn’t third on their depth chart he was functionally off their depth chart. And Sanchez, their starter, is one of the quarterbacks that he might well have actually been an upgrade on.


52 posted on 05/12/2013 4:47:19 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: discostu

He’d be a pretty good tight end I think.


53 posted on 05/13/2013 10:28:38 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

I’d rather put him at RB, he’s got just enough passing skills to be an excellent trick play threat. Give him the ball 20 times a game, have him throw twice a game, it’ll drive defenses insane.


54 posted on 05/13/2013 10:31:45 AM PDT by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Obama’s fault.


55 posted on 05/13/2013 10:37:53 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: discostu; Hot Tabasco
You are entitled to your opinions as am I.
Tim Tebow has as much right to make hit beliefs a part of his persona as any other player who denounces or endorces otherwise.
and as for the comment
"We’re a results oriented business"
I have two words for You.
Donovon McNabb.
56 posted on 05/14/2013 4:25:53 PM PDT by Falcon4.0
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To: Falcon4.0
I have two words for You

And I have two for you:

So what?

57 posted on 05/14/2013 4:52:29 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: Falcon4.0
Tim Tebow has as much right to make hit beliefs a part of his persona as any other player who denounces or endorces otherwise.

P>He sure does and nobody is arguing that. The issue here is that his mediocre performance in the NFL is turning off any potential owners from signing him since his "persona" supercedes any legitimate contribution he may provide to a team that should decide to sign him. In other words, he is indeed a distraction..........

Now if he had the stats of say a Jim Brady, then nobody would give a rats ass about his on field display of his christianity. Unfortunately for him he doesn't.......

If you want your boy to succeed in the NFL then tell him to give his thanks in the locker room......I don't think God will mind.

58 posted on 05/14/2013 5:11:39 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: Hot Tabasco

He was just drafted, no NFL stats yet.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=68710&draftyear=2012&genpos=OG


59 posted on 05/14/2013 5:13:40 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: nascarnation
He was just drafted, no NFL stats yet.

TOM Brady.......sorry for the mistake

60 posted on 05/14/2013 5:18:18 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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