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Star Trek Into Darkness Premiered in Sydney…the Truth is Here (SPOILERS)
Furious Fanboys ^ | April 23, 2013 | Jeremy Conrad

Posted on 04/28/2013 12:02:59 PM PDT by EveningStar

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To: fieldmarshaldj

I like older women...


61 posted on 04/28/2013 2:52:25 PM PDT by Dallas59 (America died a little bit more on 11/6/2012)
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To: EveningStar

A post-modern sci-fi story for everyone’s pleasure
Post Modern Drudgery
http://tamarawilhite.hubpages.com/hub/Post-Modern-Drudgery-a-story-by-Tamara-Wilhite


62 posted on 04/28/2013 2:55:34 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Army Air Corps

Mirror Universe would get more publicity. You could explore lots of storylines without ruining the cannon. You get sexy uniforms and lots of violence, without altering the characters people love.


63 posted on 04/28/2013 2:56:35 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Dallas59

See, I think Zoe Saldana is adorable. Problem is, she’s also completely wrong in the role (as is virtually the entire cast, and this dreadful & unnecessary reboot).


64 posted on 04/28/2013 2:57:33 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: EveningStar

It’s like JJ and his writers wanted to rip up everything that made the old series great.

How sad.


65 posted on 04/28/2013 3:00:36 PM PDT by dragonblustar
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To: discostu

The canon of Kirk and the Gang would be the “giant albatross.” With that being the case, why even bother with a reboot of an aspect of the Trek universe that has been fleshed out in the original series and several movies? There are so many other stories within the Trek Universe that have little canon and would have provided a fresh, rich field of storytelling - ya know, something entirely new and not something sorta kinda different. Hell, a movie based on the Mirror universe would provide a helluva lot of leeway for writers if not provide a virtually blank slate. The reboot comes off as a cinematic equivalent of Obama comparing himself to Reagan.


66 posted on 04/28/2013 3:00:42 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: tbw2

Indeed! It would be a hoot to even see younger Mirror versions of Kirk and the Gang being villainous badasses as they gain power in the Empire.


67 posted on 04/28/2013 3:05:26 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

And they could make movies to follow the mirror universe from the “Enterprise” series based on Scott Bakula to the Original Enterprise to several episodes in Deep Space 9. It’s enough plot to create a sketch, but lots of room to innovate.


68 posted on 04/28/2013 3:20:06 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: EveningStar

69 posted on 04/28/2013 3:23:02 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Jonty30
Fan boys love spoilers. It’s part of the culture now to know the movie before you see it.

Spoilers are a complicated subject. The premise of GROUNDHOG DAY was spoiled in the posters at the theater, yet it's played like it's a big surprise.

OTOH, the best moment of the "New Star Trek" for me was the movie trailer, which showed the motorcycle chase without identifying the movie, so I got to be surprised at the end of it, as they blazed STAR TREK across the screen ... that was great. Note that the movie itself spoils the outcome of this scene.

70 posted on 04/28/2013 3:33:58 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Army Air Corps

Problem is you’ve got 28 seasons of TV show and 10 movies setting up all kinds of races and people and historical elements, accidentally make a reference to the wrong person in the wrong time and the canonheads get their panties in a twist (again Enterprise). Even the mirror universe has a bunch of canon having appeared in 9 episodes spanning 3 shows. All the reboot is doing is snapping off all the other stuff and giving the a clean slate to play with, now they don’t need to worry if they’re not supposed to meet that race yet or have warp too fast. Reboots (and their cousin ret-cons) are pretty common place, and something Trek should have done a LONG time ago. Problem of course is there’s this chunk of the Trek fanbase that’s obsessive on those things to the point of complaining to the stars about buttons changing function, so they always had fear. Which is sad, because originally Trek had no canon, and it worked better that way, http://www.postmodernbarney.com/author/john/ (weird archive, read from bottom up).


71 posted on 04/28/2013 3:34:05 PM PDT by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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To: GeronL
I have no idea what they were thinking, does the Battlestar Galactica show up and attack the Enterprise in the next film?

They're saving the crossovers for the other parts of Star Trek. One will be Battlestar/Voyager/A-Team (focus on Dwight Shultz and Dirk Benedict), the other Star Trek Next Generation/Star Wars (Han seduces both Troi and Crusher, then wins the Enterprise from Riker in a high-stakes poker game)
72 posted on 04/28/2013 3:37:08 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: dr_lew

Good stories work even if you know the ending, stories that get spoiled because you knew the ending stink. Classic Greeks would know the story before going to the play, opera goers often have the libretto with them.


73 posted on 04/28/2013 3:38:07 PM PDT by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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To: EveningStar

Okay, spoiled myself. I was expecting that, not wishing that was the case, wishing they were a little more original, but...I should have known better.

*Sigh* I’ll still go see it. Maybe it’s not as bad as it sounds.


74 posted on 04/28/2013 3:46:29 PM PDT by Thorliveshere (Tais deau sá taghdedaul!)
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To: discostu
Problem of course is there’s this chunk of the Trek fanbase that’s obsessive on those things to the point of complaining to the stars about buttons changing function, so they always had fear.

The problem here is that Abrams is trying to have it both ways, reboot but also drop all sorts of little M&Ms from the other Treks and particularly the original series.

I mean, Tribbles? Really? They were central to one - ONE - Orig Series episode that was done with a decidedly whimsical tone. As well as a DS9 homage episode. It sounds like in Darkness they're in just as a convenient plot device with Abrams only using them (as opposed to an infinite list of other available devices - like Admiral Archer's prize beagle) as a too-cute nod to original timeline Trek.

From this review, I may not even go see the movie (I decided not to waste my time and money see Oblivion after reading that it's just a rehash of several other sci-fi movies), because it now stinks like the worst kind of fanboy fan-fiction ...
75 posted on 04/28/2013 3:49:55 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: EveningStar

Thank you for posting this. I really had no need to see this movie, but did wonder what I would be missing. Now I will feel no guilt whatsoever. Instead, I will be looking forward to any new South Park parody episode concerning JJ Abrams’ rape of Kirk and Spock. Indiana Jones will not be suffering alone.


76 posted on 04/28/2013 3:50:01 PM PDT by Waryone (Trust the Lord not your own understanding. Acknowledge Him. He will direct your path.)
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To: discostu

I understand that some aspect of the Mirroe Universe and other races have been touched on. Still, they are not fleshed-out to the point that they cannot be tweaked or expanded. I agree with an earlier poster on that Abrams seems to want it to both ways. Personally, my opinion is pick one, dude. A complete “reboot” or a remake - pick one. Hell’s bells, they could have just tried an entirely new storyline with new characters within the broader universe - good writers would find a way to make it work. Heck, even go the AVP route and have Gorns versus Tholians! ;-). Instead, it seems as though the writers chose the lazy route - take accepted characters and change things just enough to give the appearance of orginality but with damned little truly fresh.


78 posted on 04/28/2013 4:18:33 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: GreyFriar

You know your life sucks if you need to be rescued from an attack by the Drazi. That’s almost as bad as being besieged by the Pak’ma’ra.


79 posted on 04/28/2013 4:34:30 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: null and void
It was the honorable thing to do after he got her in tribble..

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80 posted on 04/28/2013 4:59:19 PM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (A moral wrong is not a civil right: No religious sanction of an irreligious act.)
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