Skip to comments.Vanity: Tom Coburn Facebook getting RIPPED for Gun Vote
Posted on 04/11/2013 9:16:49 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
Coburn voted with the rest of the RINOS!
Check out the OUTRAGE on his Facebook page! WOW!
By suggesting that the 2nd amendment can be 'modified' by a simple law, it is indeed overturned totally, since the 'make no law' part would be null and void.
Personally I am inclined to think that anything the government has should be available to the citizenry.
However, every once in a while I think it is important to get the supporters and the opponents of the Constitution on the record. This debate can do that.
Voting to proceed on a gun bill that hasn't even been WRITTEN!
Yep, we just went from NO! to ‘I dunno, maybe’.
Well, no, not if they close their eyes and pretend that's not what's going on, and if the MSM incessantly broadcast that everything's OK. Who you gonna believe, Chrissy Matthews or your own lying eyes?
Kidding aside, yes, we have reached the point where American politicians think they're gods. I don't get the sense that the public anger is even registered inside the Beltway. This one's an express train headed straight for a brick wall and all we see in the media is Joe Biden tooting the whistle and grinning like the fool he is.
Yeah the explanation of someones vote being some grand master strategy (which never seems to work) is wearing a little thin with me.
He doesn’t care... obviously. He’s busy hanging out with his NEW friends.
Same line of thinking that led people to conclude that surely the SCOTUS would vote to kill Obamacare.
You are living in a post-Constitutional USA anyway. There are no more checks and balances, so, no, I don’t think the debate has any useful purpose whatsoever.
I think we stand a 30 percent chance of not making it to the next Presidential election as it stands.
I agree. Called Coburns office in Washington DC and expressed my frustration
He's gone native.
Didn’t Coburn cave on some other leftist nonsense recently?
Yes. On the bailouts and recent budget issues...
Amen to that! “We’re going to get all these guys on record.” Blah blah blah. Meanwhile, our rights are taken away. Maybe it works to get Coburn elected but our rights and prosperity are still lost.
As someone who lost a lucrative job in the wake of the SCOTUS ruling on Obamacare, I am angry. But I am not angry enough to tear down the whole system and try to start over. That is precisely what the Left wants to do and in their hyper-emotionalism, too many on the Right are playing into that possibility. That end will not be pretty.
The debate still has validity. And, I seriously doubt we will see damage to the 2nd amendment because of a healthy debate. And Congress does not have the authority to change the amendment anyway.
What’s to debate???
“Good grief. You would think he voted to confiscate everything from kitchen knives to every imaginable automatic weapon. He only voted to prevent a filibuster because it is high time we had this debate on the floor of the Senate so the real totalitarian gun grabbers will have come out of the closet. Coburn is as solid a supporter of 2nd amendment rights as you will find and suggestions to the contrary are simply a means for low-information voters to self-select.”
That’s nuts. Once it gets to the floor, anything can happen and none of it will be good. The house majority is very weak on this issue—I think some gun control bill will pass the house. Then it goes to conference, where infinite mischief can occur. Too much strategery there. Just block this awful bill however you can. Get clever on something else.
I am so disgusted with these piles in our government. I am glad they are getting what fer on facebook.
The Coburn of 2004 would have never voted for this garbage!!!!
I just don’t understand how the left is getting away with this. I mean I know why...by WHY?
What is it going to take to end them killing this country?
If he is, and I don't believe he is, he's not showing it by explaining his action or by stating his opposition to more federal gun restrictions. I've never heard of him voicing an inclination to repeal the Lautenberg amendment, for example.
And assuming the feds have plenary power of RKBA and 2nd amendment issues, why doesn't he propose a federal law that forbids states to pass magazine size limitations? I mean if the feds can restrict, they can also limit restrictions.
Limiting restrictions is precisely what he is trying to do in his amendments to the Manchin Toomey Proposal.
I meant limiting restrictions relative to current law, not limiting restrictions relative to Toomey-Manchin. I read the press release, and all I see is that Coburn proposes to make NICS available to the general public.
“But I am not angry enough to tear down the whole system and try to start over. That is precisely what the Left wants to do and in their hyper-emotionalism, too many on the Right are playing into that possibility. That end will not be pretty.”
You are where I was four years ago.
It’s already over.
Adams called it, “Liberty, once lost, cannot be recovered.”
It’s the lesson of 6000 years of government that the founders tried to pass on to us.
Franklin observed that once we learned we could vote ourselves any thing we wanted from out of the public purse, then we were toast.
This is already done, the ending will not be pretty, and it never is.
Jaques Barzun has a book about the last 500 years of civilization, and the cycle of ‘disatisfaction, revolution, disillusionment’. We’re just going to be another historical footnote, like the Soviet Union was.
The better military and communications technology gets, the shorter the runs between the cycles get. It’s actually funny to watch Putin ridiculing us for making the same mistakes the Soviets did.
What Putin is trying to do in Russia is balance private property rights with a dictatorship.
You can’t get a little bit pregnant, though, and to have a free enterprise system you need the freedom of the press, durable property rights, and the right to assembly.
It’s like fire, take one of these out, and no fire, no economy.
Durable property rights mean the enforcement of contracts in impartial courts of law. When Obama screwed the bondholders at GM, that went out the window for good. The Europeans are about to find out what happens when you confiscate savings out of bank accounts.
Press allows you to say what you need to in order to find needs and fill them. Assembly allows you to gather the talent you need together in order to fill that need.
It takes a while for a ship this size to sink, but you can measure the amount of water in the bilges already - 90,000,000 out of the workforce, with the unemployment rate dropping.
The only way the rate can drop is for people to run out of benefits and the number of new jobs to be consistently below 350,000, which is essentially the new jobs replacement rate.
California is now systematically putting its municipalities into Chapter 9, which busts the pension contracts. I had a neighbor retire up here in WA state with a pension from the city of Stockton.
His checks stopped coming, and he just sold his house and moved down to be near his kids in Arizona. He’s 68, and she’s 65 - bye, bye.
Both have college educations. They were members of the country club up here, and golfed every day. He worked in the planning department down there.
Wait until these pensions start blowing up in earnest here in 2014 and 2015. There’s a reason why DHS is stocking up on ammo, body bags, and armored cars.
My brother’s in a job down there that would have him making about $150,000/year in retirement. Congressman, right?
Nope. He inspects sewer line construction for the sanitation district down in NorCal.
That is a lot to think about. Thanks for a very well articulated reply. History is full of examples where something (relatively) good winds up being replaced with evil. The Left has, much to the surprise of many, been patient in this fight and done exactly what Kruschev told us would happen. Alinsky, among others, provided the roadmap.
Like David Horowitz regularly points out, the Left has nothing to replace the social orders they destroy. That is why I am reluctant to take a "tear it all down" approach myself. I see little good coming from that and I tend to believe that we may see better results by sticking with the system. It is admittedly broken and in desperate need of repair. But destruction will not simply be the end of the system, it will be the end of millions of lives. History is pretty clear about that as well.
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