Skip to comments.Toronto dad upset he's not allowed to watch daughter's swim class
Posted on 04/07/2013 12:41:22 PM PDT by rickmichaels
TORONTO - When a single dad signed his nine-year-old daughter up for female-only swim lessons, he didnt realize he as a man was going to be banned from watching her practice.
Chris (who didnt want his last name published) was shocked when he had the blinds to the viewing area of the Dennis R. Timbrell Recreation Centre pool in Flemingdon Park shut on him and then was told by staffers it was for religious reasons.
I spoke to a staff member and she told me that its because of Muslim women, that were not allowed to look at them or whatever, Chris, 38, told the Toronto Sun Friday. I dont think religion has a role to play in a public pool.
Chris said he enrolled his daughter online through the citys website and registered her for the Ultra Swim 1: Female class a nine-week course offered for free at the community centre.
Nowhere on the form did it mention that males could not watch the lessons.
So, when he showed up with his child at the pool on March 28 and again on Thursday night, he was confused when told he wasnt allowed to watch.
She doesnt have a lot of friends and I wanted her to swim with girls, Chris explained. I dont know what parent wouldnt want to watch their child participate. There were other fathers there who werent too happy.
Local Councillor John Parker hadnt heard of the particular case until the Sun contacted him Friday, but said the dads point is a legitimate one and raises a fair issue.
If we have a young child and there is a desire for the parent to provide supervision I would hope that we would not be so inflexible, he said.
The Ward 26-Don Valley West councillor said there are only so many hours available in the pool.
So we have to decide and we have to determine just what are the options that are available to us and how many hours are there in the day to allow the different options that communities want, Parker said. So far the pressure has been to provide hours for women only, this gives rise to the legitimate question: ought we to find time for mixed groups precisely to accommodate the concern that this parent has raised.
Female-only swim programs began 20 years ago on the basis of accommodating cultural and religious practices and requirements, confirmed city aquatics manager Anne Jackson.
Without a female-only program, there would be women that wouldnt be able to participate in swimming, Jackson said. This is the way it needs to be in order to accommodate the programs. Were not opening the door to one cultural group only this is all females were accommodating.
Late last month, Dennis R. Timbrell began a male-only swim course where only men could watch from the sidelines no moms. The program bred from the same religious/cultural reasons, Jackson said.
If any parents wish to watch their child who is enrolled in a female or male-only swim class, they would have to move them to a mixed boys/girls class that runs three days a week.
The weekly gender-specific swim classes are open to anyone from two to 18, but Jackson said the city wont consider separating existing classes into younger age groups (that would allow parents of the opposite sex to be present) because it wouldnt accommodate the needs of the majority of people who want to participate in a girls-only program.
She agreed, however, the registration forms should be clearer in stating that only parents of the same gender of the child will be admitted.
I think thats a fair criticism, Jackson said.
There are currently nine pools across Toronto that run the female-only swim program. All pools follow the same policy of not allowing people of the other sex to watch practices, Jackson said.
Of course not, but then Christians and Jews would build their own swimming pools, something muslims are apparently too stupid to do.
Canada is losing in the war against terror.
its because of Muslim women, that were not allowed to look at them
Islam is a Poison to Freedom and Liberty.
But those are private schools, whereas this is a public pool.
That is right the Orthodox Jews prohibit men from watching girls IN THEIR OWN SCHOOLS.
Moslims get to roll over other’s priviliges in PUBLIC ACCOMMODATIONS.
Don't see the need for the swine blood, but arresting any with incriminating evidence of anti-American (including cultural) advocacy and imprisonment/execution for those involved in attempts to destroy our culture or nation is perfectly suitable. Also, ALL mosques must be completely destroyed and the structure razed completely to the ground and not another permitted to be built on U.S. soil.
I have also advocated for giving notice (30-60 days to liquidate assets) and mass deportations for ANYONE practicing Islam here. Getting the nation to understand the need for this is the hard part.
I say that civilized men living in civilized Western nations should,whenever they see a veiled woman walking with a man,say to that man “you know,I’d really love to (inserted obscene verb here) your wife/daughter/sister/mother right here on the street”.That will certainly start a discussion or two.
I would have said that as a Christian there is nothing wrong with watching his daughter and then sue the living crap outta them!!!
Or tell them it only applies to Muslim Men and that he is a Cristian so he can watch.
this is the same city where the YMCA allows young boys and girls to swim together naked
I live in a highrise & can see our city’s Islamic Center & Masjid. Seems they now have their own black hearse. How many “infidel” churches can boast such a luxury? And if they had one, wouldn’t they rent it out? Those things don’t come cheap.
Nope, that muzzie meat wagon is for processing of deceased Mohammedans only. Mustn’t defile it with the profane remains of “infidels”.
I say that civilized men living in civilized Western nations should,whenever they see a veiled woman walking with a man,say to that man you know,Id really love to (inserted obscene verb here) your wife/daughter/sister/mother right here on the street.That will certainly start a discussion or two.
Should have them say “You know I would rape you right here right now because I am expected to act like an animal with no self control.... But because you look like a walking hefty bag I am now repulsed..... Wait.... I have self control unlike the animals that force you to dress that way”
Make them swim in their burkas.
Yeah it’s in the same vein. Both cases were equally stupid.
seperate accomadations for the sex’s in swimming goes way back before anyone heard of muslims...I took swimming during the 50’s and night swimming was all female on certain days and male on other days....The girls didn’t have to be bothered by boys being boys and teasing the girls...it was a good idea then and a good idea now....
i’d just say sorry, parents get to watch, you don’t like it, lump it.
Another sharia-compliant swimming pool.
Best yet. :^)
Or are you being deliberately obtuse?
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.