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Woman gets ticket for driving 2 mph under speed limit (misleading Headline alert)
Yahoo News ^ | Feb. 12, 2013 | Erik Pfeiffer

Posted on 03/13/2013 6:43:26 AM PDT by Michael.SF.

A Maryland woman has gotten a very unusual speeding ticket for driving a mere two miles under the speed limit on Interstate 95.

Local NBC affiliate News4 reports that the woman, who asked to keep her name anonymous, was driving 63 miles per hour in a 65-mph zone.

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TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: highways; passonleft
That is the opening. The next sentence is the key: Police say the reason they ticketed her was that she was driving in the left lane reserved for speedier commuters.

Like Sammy said: "I Can't Drive 65!!"

If you are going slow---MOVE OVER!

Good for the cops on this one!

1 posted on 03/13/2013 6:43:26 AM PDT by Michael.SF.
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To: Michael.SF.

Awesome! I wish they gave more tickets for slow driving in the left lane. It’s a real issue in Virginia—everyone just drives in the left lane. and it drives me crazy.


2 posted on 03/13/2013 6:45:28 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Michael.SF.
Just like I tell my wife, "Stay Out Of The Left Lane So You Don't Get Run Over!"

...but I'm doing the speed limit, she says.

Exactly! ..is my reply.

3 posted on 03/13/2013 6:47:40 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Michael.SF.
But, but I pay my taxes too, the passive aggressive slow-pokes say.

Well, you paid taxes for those right-hand lanes too, they are built just for you.

4 posted on 03/13/2013 6:49:45 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: TexasCajun
As the saying goes, when you are in the left lane:

The guy going slower than you is a JERK!
The one faster than you is a MANIAC!

5 posted on 03/13/2013 6:52:04 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Obama lied, Stevens died.)
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To: Michael.SF.
For many years the only thing bolded and underlined in the Illinois "Rules of the Raod" was that the left lane was for passing only.
6 posted on 03/13/2013 6:53:05 AM PDT by Boojum
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To: Michael.SF.

Two mph is nothing. There must have been at least a middle finger involved in this.


7 posted on 03/13/2013 6:53:47 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Michael.SF.
When I finally get by some inconsiderate ass in the left lane (usually by passing them on the right) I really would like to have a flashing sign in my rear window that says:

What Part of "Slower Traffic Keep Right" Do You NOT Understand?

8 posted on 03/13/2013 6:53:52 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: Michael.SF.

When I go on cruise control at 64 in the far-left Carpool lane in a 60 MPH Zone, and people think I ought to be going 70+, well, they can just go around me in the fast lane.


9 posted on 03/13/2013 6:55:56 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Due Process 2013: "Burn the M*****-F***er Down!")
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To: Michael.SF.

Driving slow in the left lane with left turn signal on, neither hand on the steering wheel, talking on a cellphone with one hand and waving the other hand around the interior of the vehicle with one leg out the window.
She gets only partial credit.


10 posted on 03/13/2013 6:58:44 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Michael.SF.

Back when the speed limit was 55 a friend of mine was doing 55 in Los Angeles and a CHP car pulled up beside him and gave him a dirty look and motioned for him to speed up. When the flow of traffic is 70 go 70.


11 posted on 03/13/2013 6:59:42 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Obama is the Chicken Little of politics)
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To: Michael.SF.

If you’re in the left hand lane and there is nobody in front of you and nobody to and the right then get to the right.


12 posted on 03/13/2013 7:12:50 AM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: Michael.SF.
Alas for that cop you could drive a gazillion miles in the state of Maryland and never see a 'keep right' sign ~ just doesn't happen.

This was on I95 anyway ~ it's full of left lane exits ~ to get off the highway you must keep left.

Some backwoods spots in the far West might have a keep right law but not for multi-lane divided highways on the East Coast!

13 posted on 03/13/2013 7:21:15 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Michael.SF.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZhdvl_P1Zc.
14 posted on 03/13/2013 7:21:25 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: N. Theknow

This was I95 in Maryland ~ your advice doesn’t work on that road. The cop seems to have been a newbie from an isolated rural township in another country or something.


15 posted on 03/13/2013 7:23:45 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: for-q-clinton
Virginia has a great number of multi-lane divided highways. The rule is to use the left lane with on-coming traffic very carefully if at all ~ but the right hand side of the road, whether it's 1, 2, 3 or 11 travel lanes like part of I495 near me, is where you are supposed to move left to avoid traffic entering the highway at interchanges.

We can always tell those out of staters by the way they cut you off entering the road. So, a warning, we get to pack heat without a license ~ please be polite and MOVE LEFT to get out the way!

16 posted on 03/13/2013 7:27:30 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Michael.SF.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqXDm18QdMY


17 posted on 03/13/2013 7:28:07 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: N. Theknow

Slower traffic keep right is well and good, but when I’m cruising at 5 mph over the limit and passing a line of slower traffic, why is it some moron in a Beamer always seems to come screaming up to my bumper at 85? I feel no obligation to speed up to 90 to get out of his way; I’ll pull back to the right WHEN IT IS SAFE TO DO SO!


18 posted on 03/13/2013 7:35:47 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Michael.SF.

Here’s an added wrinkle - in Kansas, you must get in the left lane when passing by a police car that has somebody pulled over.

The policae are draconian in enforcing this...to the point that its an insanely dangerous. Whenever somebody gets pulled over, I feel like its the start of a Nascar race, with everyone jockying for position.


19 posted on 03/13/2013 7:41:46 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: N. Theknow

If the person you get irratated with in the left is doing the SPEED LIMIT, then they AREN’T “slower traffic”...

WHAT PART OF “SPEED LIMIT” DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?


20 posted on 03/13/2013 7:44:14 AM PDT by Boonie
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To: lacrew
The police are draconian in enforcing this...to the point that its an insanely dangerous.

That way, when you hit the car in the left lane, the police will be right there to take care of things!
21 posted on 03/13/2013 7:46:05 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("C'est la vie" say the old folks, it goes to show you never can tell. -- Chuck Berry)
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To: JimRed

If you are passing someone then there is no issue, as you said you will get over when you have completed your pass.

The issue is the morons that sit oblivious in the left lane while traffic piles up behind them and the entire world has to pass them on the right.


22 posted on 03/13/2013 7:52:53 AM PDT by commish (The takers rule. Time to implement the triple G plan - GOD, GUNS, & GOLD)
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To: muawiyah
"So, a warning, we get to pack heat without a license ~ please be polite and MOVE LEFT to get out the way! " Thanks for being an irresponsible gun owner. Way to give the lefty gungrabbers an example to hold up. TC
23 posted on 03/13/2013 7:55:40 AM PDT by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: muawiyah
Some backwoods spots in the far West might have a keep right law but not for multi-lane divided highways on the East Coast! Here is a little light reading for you:

Maryland KEEP RIGHT Law

2010 Maryland Code TRANSPORTATION TITLE 21 - VEHICLE LAWS - RULES OF THE ROAD - Subtitle 3 - Driving on Right Side of Roadway; Overtaking and Passing; Use of Roadway Section 21-301 - Driving on right side of roadway -- "(a) General rule.- On every roadway that is wide enough, a vehicle shall be driven on the right half of the roadway....(SNIP)"

Enjoy.

24 posted on 03/13/2013 7:59:37 AM PDT by commish (The takers rule. Time to implement the triple G plan - GOD, GUNS, & GOLD)
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To: commish

She was on the right half. She just wasn’t on the right quarter.


25 posted on 03/13/2013 8:04:03 AM PDT by chopperman
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To: commish
People really do keep to the right half of the highway and out of the way of oncoming traffic. That's why so many highways are built so wide these days ~ but when you have left hand exits all over the place, you must keep left to use them.

Don't be bringing some countryroads environmental law into play when we are discussing interstate quality highways.

26 posted on 03/13/2013 8:07:43 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Pentagon Leatherneck
We are not having trouble with lefty gungrabbers around here ~ that's one of the advantages of not living in lefty gungrabber territory.

BTW, we have far less irresponsible firearms use on the public highways than Texas does ~ if you must know ~ but they have restrictions. Around here be polite and there'll be no trouble. And move left at intersections to let folks enter the highway. Another one, is if there's a cop parked on the right berm, move left to get out the way ~ that's the law!

27 posted on 03/13/2013 8:10:49 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Boonie
If the person you get irratated with in the left is doing the SPEED LIMIT, then they AREN’T “slower traffic”... WHAT PART OF “SPEED LIMIT” DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?

The ones NOT doing the speed limit!

28 posted on 03/13/2013 8:19:04 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: Boonie
“Slower” is a relative term. For the sake of safety and in the interest of efficiency, vehicles are required to travel with the flow of traffic, i.e. neither impeding or tailgating. In my state it is illegal for semi-trucks or vehicles pulling trailers to travel in the right lane on roads of three or more lanes and all vehicles are only allowed to use the right lane when passing or if it is the only lane available.
29 posted on 03/13/2013 8:46:15 AM PDT by stormer
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To: muawiyah

My backwoods home in the far West.

30 posted on 03/13/2013 8:53:58 AM PDT by stormer
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To: stormer

With quaint local customs. The rules or roads only 1.5 lanes wide are simply not applicable to a roadway 11 lanes wide.


31 posted on 03/13/2013 8:58:22 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

You’re probably right. Once when I cracked a felloe, only a few other travelers passed while I was waiting for the wainwright.


32 posted on 03/13/2013 9:12:07 AM PDT by stormer
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To: muawiyah

I-95 isn’t full of left-turn exits in Maryland. There are a couple, like northbound I-95 to westbound I-495 south of baltimore, and one or two maybe through the city.

When you get further north, they have the rest stops in the center. But I doubt this woman was near a left exit, or the police would not have ticketed her.

There are two big rules I keep telling my kids. First, don’t pass on the right, because that is one of those rules the police love to hit you for. Second, move over if you aren’t following another car already. Let the fast people by on the left, so they don’t have to break the law by passing on the right.

Now, for me, my rule is that if I am in the right lane, I will drive without regard to whether there are cars on the far left going slower. I figure if there’s a lane between us, I’m not really “passing on the right”, I’m just driving in my lane. If there’s a car in the center, I’ll actually move over 2 lanes to pass on the left, and then go back to the right.

And I do sometimes pass on the right, when it is clear that a car won’t move over, especially if a bunch of other cars have already passed on the right.

I like driving on the left because it is the safest lane. You only have to watch people merging from one side, and have a shoulder to bail out. The right lane is almost as good except for the people merging in and swerving through 3 lanes to get to an exit they forgot. The middle lanes creep me out, because people pass me on the left AND on the right, and others will tailgate if you aren’t going fast enough, and people are always swerving into your lane from both sides.

One day, I figured if I got a “reckless driving” ticket for going too fast in the left lane, I would have argued that I was in the left because it was the safest place, and I was driving the same speed as others in the left which was the safest course of action, and that the law is not intended to put my own life in danger.


33 posted on 03/13/2013 9:16:05 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: lacrew

But only while you are passing the vehicle.


34 posted on 03/13/2013 9:17:32 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: stormer

The Ivary (Smith) Tower in the foreground, and the Space Needle in the background kind of give it away. Nice shot of Lake Onion.


35 posted on 03/13/2013 9:31:42 AM PDT by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: Boojum

Mexico also has A “passing lane” LAW AND IT IS STRICTLY ENFORCED.


36 posted on 03/13/2013 9:33:41 AM PDT by Foolsgold (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: Michael.SF.

Sounds like they charged her incorrectly, hitting her for driving “10 mph or more below the speed limit” when she was only doing 2mph under.

If she was blocking traffic, and they charged her with obstructing traffic, that would make more sense. Assuming she was actually blocking traffic.

Generally I think that law should be applied if some idiot in the left lane decides to pace the other cars in the center and right lanes to create a rolling blockade. I’ve been behind people like that before, they think it is their job to keep the rest of us from speeding.

I think we should allow people to go much faster if they like, and then have fines for accidents based on speed over the “recommended” limit.

So, instead of a speed limit of 65, they could have a “recommended limit 55, max 85”; if you are going 85 and have an accident, they charge you $1000 and suspend your license.

That way, we get to punish people who actually cause harm, while not restricting everybody’s liberty because of some lowest common denominator of unskilled drivers.


37 posted on 03/13/2013 9:33:45 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Michael.SF.

And probably pacing the car in the right. They speed up until they reach someone in the right lane and then slow down to their speed. It’s a sign they are not paying attention.


38 posted on 03/13/2013 9:34:54 AM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: jimt

Hate to say it, but I remember when the Smith Tower was the tallest building in town. At one time it was the tallest building west of the Mississippi.


39 posted on 03/13/2013 9:39:48 AM PDT by stormer
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To: jimt
Nothing says "Seattle" more than this guy...


40 posted on 03/13/2013 9:47:33 AM PDT by stormer
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To: stormer
I thought it was this guy.


41 posted on 03/13/2013 9:48:29 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: CharlesWayneCT
“...if you are going 85 and have an accident, they charge you $1000 and suspend your license.”

And the relatives of the family of four that was killed will just have to get over it.

42 posted on 03/13/2013 10:20:09 AM PDT by stormer
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To: CharlesWayneCT

That approach won’t work at all once you get West of the Mormon Temple ~ and in Virginia it’s just so wrong.......... we have a saying when we see somebody doing something totally bizarre ‘look, he has a Maryland plate’ ~


43 posted on 03/13/2013 10:37:23 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I have a simple solution ~ you exceed the speed limit and create an accident in front of me, while we're waiting on the ambulances it's time to get in some licks. Depending on how squishy things are that might be to report your behavior to the cops, or maybe say "he's road raged' ~ or, if you still want somebody to pull you out of your wreck, it could be just anything.

Worst sin you can commit on Washington area highways is to make them clog up more than normal.

44 posted on 03/13/2013 10:40:26 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Foolsgold
All 2 lane roads have a passing lane rule ~ in the US they mark them down the middle.

We are talking about a multi-lane interstate highway ~ not a country lane.

45 posted on 03/13/2013 10:42:34 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: stormer

Just as they have to when you are driving 55 and cause an accident.

Or, they could sue. Or, if the accident is clearly negligent driving, and not simply an accident, you could be charged with manslaughter, just as you could be if you negligently cause an accident and kill someone driving 55.

My point was that we could change the ticketing process so that tickets wouldn’t be issued for driving fast itself, but for actual issues with your driving, like if you actually lose control (which you can do at any speed, and you should always drive at a speed you can handle).

You could still charge people with reckless driving, if they are driving faster than conditions would allow to be safe, or if you are weaving in and out of traffic, or following too close, or cutting people off.

And yes, in my America, more people would likely be killed or injured. But the people who were punished would be the people who caused the deaths and injuries. We wouldn’t punish 20 million people for “driving too fast” because 20,000 of them if they drove that fast would injure or kill someone.

Freedom means risk. And it’s not like people aren’t already driving these high speeds. The speed limit is rarely enforced en masse, and what happens instead is highly selective enforcement, treating different people in far different ways based on whim or circumstance.

You can drive the speed limit and be passed by every car on the road, you can drive 9mph over and hope that the cops are all following that rule, you can drive the speed of every other car and hope the cops aren’t waiting for the out-of-state license plate, or the car with the NRA bumper sticker.

Or, you can set the speed limits based on what a reasonably trained driver could manage, and tell people who aren’t good drivers to drive slower and stay to the right.

You know, the Europeans seem to do OK with occasional stretches of road where they all can drive at the speed they are comfortable with.


46 posted on 03/13/2013 11:59:24 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: muawiyah

I love that section of the beltway, all twisty and turny, it’s like real driving; so long as there aren’t a lot of idiots on the road drifting out of their lanes all the time.

As for bizarre driving, I haven’t been everywhere, but I’ll say the strangest drivers I’ve seen were in florida. I can’t tell you how many times in my brief trips there I’ve seen people make right turns or left turns across 3 lanes of traffic. It’s like they are oblivious to the world, drive in any lane they want, and then when they reach their turn, they just wing it.

I happen to like Virginia drivers more than Maryland (I grew up in Maryland, and live in Virginia now). But I do tend to avoid the rush-hour nightmare that is DC and it’s outskirts. I hate mindless traffic jambs.

And of course, more and more of Virginia is just like that; I-95 south to Richmond is nearly impassable until exit 143 for several important hours every day. (I drive south a lot — in the fall, I have to drive down every friday for a job at Kings Dominion, and now my daughter is at VCU so we drive there a lot as well).


47 posted on 03/13/2013 12:03:36 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: muawiyah

My last ticket was actually for “following too closely”.

I was driving back from a business trip at night, and there wasn’t much traffic, and I was in no hurry, so I set my cruise control right at the speed limit, and drove mostly in the right lane.

We were passing some truck, and we moved to the left lane, including another truck. I kept getting closer and closer, but he didn’t move back over to the right. I almost went right to go around, but then two other cars flew past us all on the right. I eventually hit my brakes, and slowly decelerated, and then he moved over and I passed him and kept driving.

A couple miles later, a cop pulled me over, and I couldn’t figure out why, and he accused me of drafting the truck. I wanted to complain that he should have gone after the guys who passed on the right, but this was near Williamsburg, and there’s no fighting tickets, it’s a money thing for them.


48 posted on 03/13/2013 12:06:26 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Uncle Miltie

If you did that in Oregon they could give you a ticket (thank God!)

The left lane if for passing, once you’ve passed, get over to the right lane.

To sit there going slower than the flow of traffic is selfish, and dangerous, causing dozens of cars to have to go around you.

Ed


49 posted on 03/15/2013 5:09:32 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: commish

They’re selfish thugs...oblivious, or in-your-face, ignoring the people behind them and forcing everyone to dangerously drive around them on the slow lane.

The law in Oregon says to let faster cars go by, and move to the right.

Ed


50 posted on 03/15/2013 5:11:58 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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