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To: ConservativeInPA
If the primary requirement is to breach, I would go with a Mossberg 500 Cruiser. It is an 8 shot with a pistol grip and the breacher on the end. The overall gun is pretty short and ergo good for moving within structures/urban areas.

For about $50, you can later add a top folding stock to it if you wish. This will give you the versatility of a short shottie for breaches and Close Quarters Battle, but you can fold out the stock for situations with greater stand off..

I have the Mossberg 500 Rolling Thunder; I had the basic 500 without the breacher on the end, but I lost it in the divorce (yes, I know that's pretty redneck when your divorce settlement hinges on a shotgun and hogs, but it did).

They've got a pretty one with the Blackwater logo for $425

I don't have any experience with the Saiga 12 etc, but I have heard that they sometimes have feeding issues; my ex-BIL did with his and this is a common theme I have heard.

And a Mossy can be had for about 1/2 what a Saiga can.....probably even less than 1/2 after the prices skyrocketed.

Another benefit is the recoil isn't overly noticeable with the 500 and 2 3/4" shells. My buddies and I skeet shoot with them and compete against each other. One of our coworker's ex-wife is about 95 lbs with a brick in her pocket and had no problem blasting clay birds with it.

14 posted on 01/27/2013 7:30:00 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: Repeat Offender

I hear ya.. I’ve heard that the Italian-made Benelli Supernova is pricey but a slick piece.. Sounds like the Mossberg’s have more aftermarket goodie attachments though. I would recommend to any buyer to check out the scores of videos on YouTube, save to mention that they are fun to watch!


25 posted on 01/27/2013 7:45:46 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Repeat Offender

Thanks. Good info. Saiga’s look pretty hot, but I wonder about Russian reliability. Mossberg is tried and proven. How do you think a folding stock would hold up to breaches, if you use the gun as a battering ram vs. just shooting at point blank range? I am new to this stuff, but my guess by looking at the barrel is the “compensator look” is to release gases when the muzzle is in direct contact with a hard surface, and not to redirect gases for semi-auto accuracy purposes.


33 posted on 01/27/2013 7:57:42 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe)
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