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Good Actors in Horribly Miscast Roles
Self | December 1, 2012 | PJ-Comix

Posted on 12/01/2012 6:09:35 AM PST by PJ-Comix

Even good actors sometimes get horribly miscast in the wrong roles. The case most often cited is this first one in which John Wayne played an odd role for him...a Mongol warrior.

John Wayne: Miscast as Genghis Khan in "The Conqueror," the Duke had to utter lines like: "My blood says, take this Tartar woman."

Susan Hayward: Co-starring as the tartar woman love interest in "The Conqueror." Yeah, an Irish chick from Brooklyn as a Tartar woman on the Asian steppes. The closest thing about Hayward to a tartar is that she had a tart tongue.

Chuck Connors: Tall, blond, blue-eyed, Connors somehow was chosen to portray an Apache Indian barely five feet tall. Does not compute!

George Peppard: I really enjoyed watching "The Blue Max." My favorite aerial movie about WWI. However, one person just did not fit the role...George Peppard as Lt. Bruno Stachel. Peppard was simply too American to convincingly portray a German. Oh, and you don't have to be a German to portray a German since two English actors in the same movie were very convincing as German officers: James Mason and Jeremy Kemp.

Laurence Olivier: Yes, even actors at the top of the acting profession can be horribly miscast as Olivier was as General Douglas McArthur in "Inchon." Thankfully very few people have seen Olivier in his completely miscast role.

Leslie Howard: I recently saw "Gone With The Wind" again for the umpteenth time and noticed that Leslie Howard was quite long in the tooth to be playing the youthful Ashley Wilkes. And did Southern gentlemen talk with British accents?

Jimmy Stewart: Stewart was almost twice the age of the 25 year old Lindbergh when he flew solo across the Atlantic. Sorry, but mere hair dye does not make one convincingly youthful in "The Spirit of St. Louis." Actually, George Peppard would have been good in the role of Lindbergh...if he mastered Lindbergh's slightly sing-song upper Midwest accent.

Richard Burton: As Leon Trotsky in "The Assassination of Trotsky."

Charlton Heston: His miscasting in "A Touch of Evil" was so horrible that it was even referenced in "Ed Wood" when Wood ran into Orson Welles at a bar and after telling Welles about being forced to miscast roles, Welles replied: "Tell me about it. I'm supposed to do a thriller for Universal. They want Charlton Heston as a Mexican."


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To: PJ-Comix
Funny stuff!

When I saw the thread title, the first thing I thought of was John Wayne as Gengis Khan and sure enough it was the first example you mentioned. John could do war movies and westerns, (and even do a terrific job as a college football coach!) but Gengis Khan? Just wow.

I also liked Tony Curtis as a gladiator, complete with Bronx accent: "Yonder is the castle of my fodder."

151 posted on 12/01/2012 11:58:46 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Fiji Hill

Hopkins sounded like a drunk Irishman in “Nixon.”


152 posted on 12/01/2012 11:59:15 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Popman

Why does everyone hate Battlefield Earth? I thought it was great Sci-fi. It is nearly universally reviled as one of the worst movies of all time but I actually enjoyed it.


153 posted on 12/01/2012 12:22:29 PM PST by douginthearmy
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To: x

He must have been liquored up.


154 posted on 12/01/2012 12:25:39 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I DARE you to watch Gentlemen’s Agreement and Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner? back to back!


155 posted on 12/01/2012 12:26:26 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Future Snake Eater
I guess it's a matter of tastes;

The Fisher King
Awakenings
What Dreams May Come
Patch


IMHO some pretty good work
156 posted on 12/01/2012 12:41:40 PM PST by John 3_19-21 (Stand for something or fall for anything.)
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To: John 3_19-21

Havent’ seen “Fisher King”, liked “Awakenings”, HATED “What Dreams May Come” and “Patch Adams.” The beginning of the end of Williams’ relevance IMO, further exacerbated by such pap as “Jack” and “Bicentennial Man.”


157 posted on 12/01/2012 1:44:09 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Future Snake Eater
Honestly, except for “Good Morning, Vietnam” and “Good Will Hunting” has Robin Williams ever been good in anything?

Possibly. But if we don't all cringe whenever he appears on screen maybe it really is time to break up the country after all.

158 posted on 12/01/2012 1:49:31 PM PST by x
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Marlon Brando in Teahouse of the August Moon and Guys and Dolls.

Also as Fletcher Christian in "Mutiny On The Bounty" in which he attempted English accent with a sissy lisp. It was kind of hard not to burst out laughing every time Brando opened his mouth in that flick.

159 posted on 12/01/2012 1:51:20 PM PST by PJ-Comix (Beware the Rip in the Space/Time Continuum)
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To: CatherineofAragon
Sean Connery in "Zardoz". WTH?

Sean Connery as a Berber in "The Wind and the Lion".
Sean Connery as a Spanish knight in "Highlander".
Sean Connery as a Russian navy officer in "The Hunt for Red October"

160 posted on 12/01/2012 2:09:39 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: douginthearmy
Why does everyone hate Battlefield Earth? I thought it was great Sci-fi.

To each his own....

"great" though...?

161 posted on 12/01/2012 2:13:17 PM PST by Popman
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To: Smittie

I meant how funny it was that Costner’s accent comes and goes so noticabley ... he totally phoned it in on that one...lol


162 posted on 12/01/2012 2:26:15 PM PST by willyd (Don't shoot, we're Republicans!)
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To: Straight Vermonter

You don’t think his character in Zardoz was just a bit more out there than the Russian submarine officer?

I liked him in “The Wind and the Lion”. He could have kidnapped me and I wouldn’t have complained.


163 posted on 12/01/2012 2:36:08 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: CatherineofAragon

I was mostly referencing the fact that he is always a Scotsman no matter what role he is playing. I like him a lot but he really only ever plays “Sean Connery” no matter what the role.


164 posted on 12/01/2012 2:39:11 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Straight Vermonter

I see. The “Connery-ness” does tend to present itself in his roles.


165 posted on 12/01/2012 2:54:02 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: wardaddy

I read all the Jack Reacher novels up to and including Nothing to Lose. That one made me quit Lee Child. Haven’t read anything from him since then and never intend to.


166 posted on 12/01/2012 3:24:31 PM PST by FreedomForce (Living in the Age of American Soft Despotism)
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To: JoeProBono; IronJack
“Yonda stands da castle of my fodda”

Thanks! My memory must be giving out, because I saw the movie, and I could have sworn he said something like that.

167 posted on 12/01/2012 3:47:58 PM PST by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the far North)
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To: Smittie

Costner was terrible in Robin Hood, but Alan Rickman was great!


168 posted on 12/01/2012 3:50:29 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Joe 6-pack; oh8eleven

And before he hit the big time, he was pleasantly goofy in “Silverado”.

And his playing himself works pretty well in “Bull Durham”.


169 posted on 12/01/2012 3:57:00 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim
"And before he hit the big time, he was pleasantly goofy in “Silverado”.

Before that was Fandango. Costner's performance was unremarkable, but Marvin McIntyre's performance as Truman Sparks was absolutely hilarious.

170 posted on 12/01/2012 4:01:09 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: jjr153
Zardoz was one of the strangest films I have ever seen. Why Sean Connery ever took the part is a mystery to me, he must have had bills to pay.

He was promoting his clothing line.

171 posted on 12/01/2012 4:04:22 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Joe 6-pack

Haven’t seen that one, I see if I can get Missus Slim to put it in her Netflix queue.


172 posted on 12/01/2012 4:07:38 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim

It’s a fun film. Not a great one, but it has its moments. The Truman Sparks character is somewhat incidental to the plot, but IMHO steals the show.


173 posted on 12/01/2012 4:13:39 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
That's Truman in the front seat ;-)


174 posted on 12/01/2012 4:16:02 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: PJ-Comix

Paul Fix as Mr. Tso in Blood Alley (1955) with John Wayne and Lauren Bacall. Fix is better known as the Marshal “Micah” in the Rifleman. And over 300 better suited roles.


175 posted on 12/01/2012 4:18:12 PM PST by RGSpincich
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To: jjr153

Though many of the cast and crew were zonked during production, there is actually some serious science fiction in Zardoz.

In a nutshell, the world is descending into chaos, for unspecified reasons, so a group of idealistic scientists create somewhat self-sufficient enclaves behind nearly impenetrable force barriers, and devise a way to make themselves and their children immortal.

The people inside the enclaves call themselves immortals, and the humans outside, brutals, and have also created a cult of brutal killers, called exterminators, to cut down on the number of brutals, lest they figure out some way of breaking into the enclaves.

One of the immortals realizes that the world has become stagnant, that the immortals have reached their maximum intellectual abilities, and the only hope is to spend generations breeding a mutant (Connery), who can bust up the status quo. Who can intellectually go far beyond the immortals, and ruin the great AI computer that keeps them forever alive.


176 posted on 12/01/2012 4:32:27 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Pennies and Nickels will NO LONGER be Minted as of 1/1/13 - Tim Geithner, US Treasury Sect)
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To: military cop

As a friend of mine used to say: “hey, you have ever seen that one Tom Cruise movie? You know, the one where plays The Cocky Young Guy?” :-)


177 posted on 12/01/2012 4:39:07 PM PST by DemforBush (100% Ex-Democrat.)
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To: military cop

“Tom Cruise plays “Tom Cruise” in every movie he’s ever been in.”

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So did John Wayne. Only the wardrobe changed(military or western}.

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178 posted on 12/01/2012 4:43:32 PM PST by Mears
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To: Gaffer
Leonardo DiCaprio in any movie where he tries to play some kind of a macho man. He is a born and bred pussy.

THANK YOU! I've been saying the same thing since he was cast in "The Man in the Iron Mask."

Regards,

TS

179 posted on 12/01/2012 5:07:55 PM PST by The Shrew (www.wintersoldier.com; www.tstrs.com; The Truth Shall Set You Free!)
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To: PJ-Comix

Okay, my hubby put his two cents worth in with Tom Cruise as a samurai warrior in The Last Samurai.


180 posted on 12/01/2012 5:45:02 PM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: wardaddy

Some of the books reflect a liberal theme. There is always a woman counterpart to Reacher. But most likely she will die during the book. One book had a theme around a militia which Reacher disposed of. The worst book of the series had to do with toxic waste. However the Reacher character is totally not a progressive, he kills or attacks first and never feels guilty about it. Mostly they are a good read but I doubt the movie will depict Reacher the way the books do.

Thanks for the link.


181 posted on 12/01/2012 6:22:41 PM PST by waredbird
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To: wardaddy

Some of the books reflect a liberal theme. There is always a woman counterpart to Reacher. But most likely she will die during the book. One book had a theme around a militia which Reacher disposed of. The worst book of the series had to do with toxic waste. However the Reacher character is totally not a progressive, he kills or attacks first and never feels guilty about it. Mostly they are a good read but I doubt the movie will depict Reacher the way the books do.

Thanks for the link.


182 posted on 12/01/2012 6:24:32 PM PST by waredbird
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Speaking of Robert Mitchum being cast waY BELOW his age in the Winds of War film, my wife’s favorite miscasting was Frank Sinatra and Robert Mitchum in the 1955 film NOT AS A STRANGER, when they were 37 and 39 respectively, and played
MEDICAL STUDENTS.


183 posted on 12/01/2012 10:05:25 PM PST by supremedoctrine
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To: Joe 6-pack

You’re right-—I think Costner was excellent in that little-seen and very interesting film A Perfect World, and guy who played his fellow fugitive is an old friend of mine from Chicago


184 posted on 12/01/2012 10:45:20 PM PST by supremedoctrine
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To: douginthearmy

Read the book first then watch the movie again. You’ll see why the movie sucks.


185 posted on 12/01/2012 11:03:58 PM PST by jjr153 (Never Forget 9/11)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I finally understood the movie about the third time I watched it. Still one of the weirdest movies ever.


186 posted on 12/01/2012 11:08:57 PM PST by jjr153 (Never Forget 9/11)
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To: driftless2; muir_redwoods

Plenty of Asians are white guys

Makes as much sense as african americans=black or negro


187 posted on 12/02/2012 1:41:22 AM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: PJ-Comix

Jack Lemmon as a nebbishy Jewish salesman in Glengarry Glen Ross. Ironically, I just saw the latest production on Broadway and Al Pacino (!) pulled off the same role as “Machine Levine” perfectly.


188 posted on 12/02/2012 2:50:26 AM PST by Clemenza ("History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil governm)
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To: driftless2

That’s the supreme moment of silliness in that movie! As well as the awful performance of that kid playing “Hitler.”


189 posted on 12/02/2012 5:51:54 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: Clemenza

I thought Jack Lemmon was horrible in GGR. I always think it’s because older actors at that time had no idea how to do Mamet’s elliptic, cryptic dialogue. Both Kevin Spacey and Ed Harris hit it out of the park.

Several years ago, Alan Alda played Jack Lemmon’s part on B’way. He was excellent!


190 posted on 12/02/2012 5:58:51 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein
"the kid...Hitler"

I don't know what happened to that young actor's career, but imagine interviewing for future roles and telling the casting director you were hired because you resembled Hitler.

191 posted on 12/02/2012 6:18:41 AM PST by driftless2
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To: jjr153

Oh, if you want weird, I’ve got an amazing assortment for you. These are not just weird, which are pretty common, but memorably weird. Stylish. Bizarre. The list goes on and on, and many of them have trailers or scenes on YouTube.

American Astronaut
Brazil
El Topo
The Bed Sitting Room
The Forbidden Zone
Fando y Liz
A Boy and His Dog
Arizona Dream
Idaho Transfer
Big Man Japan
The Calamari Wrestler
The Company of Wolves
The Magic Christian
Delicatessen
Endhiran (the robot)
The Final Programme
The Fiendish Plot of Fu-Manchu
Casino Royale (1967)
Greaser’s Palace
The Lost Skeleton of Cadavra


192 posted on 12/02/2012 7:04:28 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Pennies and Nickels will NO LONGER be Minted as of 1/1/13 - Tim Geithner, US Treasury Sect)
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To: Mears

“So did John Wayne. Only the wardrobe changed(military or western}”

or mongol warrior garb....

RLTW


193 posted on 12/02/2012 7:14:31 AM PST by military cop (I carry a .45....cause they don't make a .46....)
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To: driftless2

The kid’s career obviously went into the toilet after this dog!


194 posted on 12/02/2012 8:55:29 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: Clemenza

Lemmon as Shelley Levine is a good example of the production trade-offs that obtain in both movie-making AND Broadway, (especially B’way revivals)—all about the added appeal of a what inevitably turns out to be damaging to the overall production, but can be counted on to get a few extra asses in the seats and creating a buzz among those eager to see Jack Lemmon onstage, in a play,rather than in the movies.


195 posted on 12/02/2012 12:17:04 PM PST by supremedoctrine
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To: PJ-Comix; All

I read every post, down to the bottom, and no one mentions Val Kilmer?

And no mention of the movie “Candy”, based on a Terry Southern novel, featuring John Astin, Richard Burton, Ringo Starr, and Charlton Heston?

Seriously? ;)


196 posted on 12/02/2012 8:32:00 PM PST by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the party of Amnesty, Abortion, and Adolescence)
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To: miss marmelstein
I thought Jack Lemmon was horrible in GGR. I always think it’s because older actors at that time had no idea how to do Mamet’s elliptic, cryptic dialogue. Both Kevin Spacey and Ed Harris hit it out of the park. Several years ago, Alan Alda played Jack Lemmon’s part on B’way. He was excellent!

And Alec Baldwin did a great job of playing....himself.

197 posted on 12/02/2012 8:33:51 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

EVERYONE cast in Battlefield Earth.


198 posted on 12/02/2012 8:46:14 PM PST by Vermont Lt (We are so screwed.)
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To: Oztrich Boy

I thought Knightly was great in Pride and Prejudice, but you are right about Sutherland. Mr. Bennett is not supposed to be a worn out old man.


199 posted on 12/02/2012 8:47:46 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: dfwgator

Absolutely! I hated seeing that big mush of his coming at the camera.


200 posted on 12/03/2012 4:24:28 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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