Posted on 07/17/2012 10:11:38 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
Edited on 07/17/2012 10:37:32 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]
No more sports *PERIOD* for the entire university for 50 years!
Seriously. Shut it all down. I'm sick of this BS. I don't even care who is to blame anymore. Paterno, Sandusky, Larry, curley, or moe...I really don't give a (expletive deleted). Fire all current staff and shut it down...from the very tipity top all the way down to the towel boy and the cheerleading squad. I don't give a damn if the problem is only in the football program either. Shut down every goddam sport at Penn state. Bulldoze the sporting complex and plow up the fields. All of it.
He is not talking about buildings he is talking about perverts, whether the Catholic church OR Penn State.
So they can transfer to other schools, and the better athletes will bump all the other schools athletes from playing time or whataever.
Yea, that’s logical? Why don’t we just blow up every Catholic Church in the country after we’re done razing the Penn State campus.
Isn’t PSU the place where those “scientists” were caught lying about global warming?
Yeah, that's 'crazy talk' to demand that academics be the only focus of an academic institution.
Agreed with me that the victories should be vacated, or agree with me that it sounds self-serving? ;)
Well I don’t see quite what’s so self-serving, considering that Bowden would still be behind Robinson.
And BTW, there is one college football coach that has more wins than Paterno, John Gagliardi.
Not to change the subject, but Bobby Bowden was credited by the NCAA for college coaching victories earned at a non-Division I college that later became Div. I. It made no sense.
But you’re right. FSU stepped up as PSU needs to now. I say that as a former PSU student (but not a grad).
So he is insinuating every student-athlete or coach at Penn State is a pervert so we must take their recreational activity away from them?
Who gave a rat’s ass about Joe Paterno and his clowns when he was alive? ( HE’s DEAD, JIM.) As far as I am concerned he and his million dollar salary were nothing but a leech on Pennsylvania’s taxpayers.
I disagree. Only people in specific positions in the university are actually able to have power to make the necessary changes and they are supposed to be able to deal with external pressures and still make the right decisions. These are people that actually had the responsibility to make the right choices and had the legitimate power to do it, and failed.
You got it, pal. Since when are universities about sports?
There is one thing that Bowden, Paterno & Robinson have in common. For different reasons none of them was really in control of their football program for the last several years of their tenures at their schools. It is a potentially dangerous situation as the PSU scandal shows. I’m not one for creating regulations, but universities ought to consider mandatory retirement ages in their coaching contracts. The spectacle of the PSU trustees attempting to get Paterno to retire over the last 10 or so years was just pathetic. It was like watching me go up against Mike Tyson in his prime. Paterno just toyed with them.
Only the homosexual enabling, molesting, youth stealing ones.
While everyone is entitled to their opinion, it seems to me that the “facts” are certainly not all in. In an affair as serious, and as sordid, as this, I believe we need to be careful about passing judgment until everyone’s story has been told.
We know some of the testimony from the Grand Jury, we know the testimony that was presented during the Sandusky trial, we now have the Freeh report, although I doubt many have actually read it. If you do read the Freeh report, it is quite curious that he never talked with any of the principals in the case. And how independent can it be, being it was paid for by the PSU Trustees.
We still do not know the particulars of the Curley and Schulz perjury charges, nor their defense to them. We really don’t, as of yet, have any idea of what verbal communications there may have been. We may never know.
We all know how much the MSM gets the facts wrong; if there is eventually proved to be a cover-up the individuals and the university should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. But trying them in the court of public opinion is as wrong in this case as it is in the Zimmerman case, or countless others.
The whole basis of our justice systems is the presumption of innocence until proven guilty in a court of law. I prefer to wait until the justice system performs its function before passing judgment.
Huh? Transfers happen all the time. They should be allowed to transfer, as they have been able to throughout history.
The red flag was that Paterno wanted to stay, I think he knew that if he left, the secret was going to come out. I wonder if behind the scenes the deal was made to only let the story out once Paterno passed Robinson.
I went to PSU for 3 years (’79 thru ‘81), and went to 2 or 3 football games a year until about 2000. It was evident that the university was totally in the sway of the PC police. I couldn’t stomach it any longer and stopped going. My wife was a PSU grad as were most of our friends. All good little PSU-bots.
Aside: One thing that really bothered me. As the PSU football program began to slide from national prominence, the worship of the ‘grandfatherly’ (sarcasm) Paterno among the undergrads seemed to heighten. It creeped me out. But then it was the only ‘product’ that PSU had to sell in the waning years of Paterno’s stewardship of the program.
This Louis Freeh: (from the NY Times of all places)
Freeh Was Spared Censure For Handling of Ruby Ridge
By DAVID JOHNSTON
Published: August 06, 2001
An internal Justice Department inquiry recommended that Louis J. Freeh, the former F.B.I. director, and three other bureau officials be censured for managerial failures during follow-up investigations of the deadly standoff at Ruby Ridge in Idaho in 1992, but Justice Department officials rejected any disciplinary action, government lawyers said today.
The recommendation to reprimand Mr. Freeh with a letter of censure, the mildest form of administrative punishment at the Federal Bureau of Investigation, was turned down in early January by Stephen R. Colgate, at the time the Justice Department’s chief administrative officer responsible for reviewing disciplinary actions.
Typically, letters of censure issued to F.B.I. agents are not publicly disclosed but are inserted into their personnel files.
Mr. Colgate, who has since left the government, said in an interview that he had taken no action because he did not believe it was justified. He said two other senior officials who reviewed the matter agreed with his position while one official disagreed. The disciplinary recommendation involving Mr. Freeh was first reported today by The Washington Post.
But some around here will take as Gospel his conclusions and assumptions as aided and abetted by the lamestream media.
ANd PSU WAS conservative until Spanier arrived on the scene - I know, I was there.
Talk about overreacting--only a few percentage of the priest did harmful things. So, no you don't shut all churches down. Same here, shut the football program down some way for some time. All football revenues for the next 5 years goes to the victims. No bowl games & no scollies. I dislike very much punishing players who had nothing to do with this but it does make new recruits look at the ramifications of attending places with shady practices.
Good ideer, you start! After you're done, we'll follow your iron logic and bulldoze every university in the country!
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