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Weekly Gardening Thread (Harvesting Wheat) Vol. 20, May 18, 2012
Free Republic | 5/18/2012 | Red_Devil 232

Posted on 05/18/2012 5:59:55 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232

Good morning gardeners. JustaDumbBlonde asked me to post the thread this morning because she and her Husband are out in the fields harvesting their wheat. Looks like they will have good weather.

I hope all of your gardens are doing well. My gardening efforts have been scaled back this year to a 6x6 raised bed planted with eight of my three favorite tomato varieties. I am also continuing to pursue my Homebrewing hobby and will be brewing up a Honey Bee Ale later this afternoon and also bottling a Cranberry Mead that I started last November with a cork popping planed for this up coming Thanksgiving.

If you are a gardener or you are just starting out and are in need of advice or just encouragement please feel free to join in and enjoy the friendly discussion. Our Freeper community is full of gardeners, each with varying interests and skill levels from Master Gardener to novice.


Weekly Gardening Thread

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To: Red_Devil 232

Thanks Red. I’m in pretty good shape for the shape I’m in ;(


51 posted on 05/18/2012 7:09:57 PM PDT by tubebender (I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

So much good news on the thread today!

My ‘invisible’ tomato growing off-the-decks project, knock on wood, is going gangbusters. I have at least a hundred little fruits, and have harvested some amazing ripe ones.


52 posted on 05/18/2012 7:15:59 PM PDT by txhurl (Thank you, Andrew Breitbart. In your untimely passing, you have exposed these people one last time.)
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To: tubebender

You are welcome! Did I disturb your slumber this morning with the early post?


53 posted on 05/18/2012 7:35:31 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: txhurl

I must have missed it, but what is your ‘invisible’ tomato?


54 posted on 05/18/2012 7:38:05 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

We have strawberries!!!! When I checked the garden on Wednesday they were still green, but Thursday morning there were about a dozen cheerful red berries just begging to be picked! And more of them today, too.

My backyard garden isn’t doing as well as I’d like, but it’s growing. The peas have blossoms on them, and the radishes are plump. I’m curious, has anyone else grown Golden Midget watermelons before? They seem to be short on chlorophyll, the leaves are yellow even though the plants around them are fine. The watermelon vines also seem to be lacking in vigor. I noticed that last year but thought it was a nutritional thing. I’m not so sure anymore because other plants should have been effected too. Maybe it’s the variety?


55 posted on 05/18/2012 7:54:58 PM PDT by Ellendra ("It's astounding how often people mistake their own stupidity for a lack of fairness." --Thunt)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I was reading the thread from comment 50 upward, with NN’s certification, then tube’s birthday and your new ale, all fantastic news and then it darkened a bit, so I want to apologize to upthread gardeners who had not-so-great-news also.

Invisible tomatoes are planted in large containers on the deck, with the plants forced between the balusters and dangling down to the ground so you pick your tomatoes reaching up from the ground. In the containers all you see is flowers, herbs and whatnot. I’ll take pics tomorrow when the sun comes out.


56 posted on 05/18/2012 7:59:27 PM PDT by txhurl (Thank you, Andrew Breitbart. In your untimely passing, you have exposed these people one last time.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

You can post these threads as early as you want but I won’t log in til 7AM BT (that’s Benderville time). I forgot to mention that everything seems to be slow here in the garden and the greenhouse and the sun doesn’t seem to have the intensity this year which is possibly related to diminished solar activity? Is that even possible?


57 posted on 05/18/2012 8:18:58 PM PDT by tubebender (I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific.)
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To: tubebender

Happy Birthday Mr. Bender.

Now, don’t get caught up in any black holes or alternate universes ;)


58 posted on 05/18/2012 8:58:58 PM PDT by Sarajevo (http://rulesoftheinternet.com/index.php?title=Main_Page)
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To: texaschick

Have you considered hydroponics?


59 posted on 05/18/2012 9:04:02 PM PDT by Sarajevo (http://rulesoftheinternet.com/index.php?title=Main_Page)
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To: tubebender
Maybe the sun is bored. Shake things up this year, attract more sunlight:

Blue tomatoes have more the of stuff blueberries do which we're supposed to eat or drink or at least buy more of.

60 posted on 05/18/2012 9:16:20 PM PDT by txhurl (Thank you, Andrew Breitbart. In your untimely passing, you have exposed these people one last time.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

Every year I grow a very small quantity of wheat planted by birds that crap wheat kernels on my driveways, sidewalks, or garden.

I wait until it matures and turns golden, then pull off the heads, and crumble in my hands, and save the grain, discard the chaff. If I do not eat it immediately, I store it in pill bottles. Then, I eat the grain whole.


61 posted on 05/18/2012 11:45:30 PM PDT by tdscpa
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To: tdscpa

Thanks for the tip - I’ll look into it!


62 posted on 05/19/2012 5:50:51 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (I'm for Churchill in 1940!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Hi, Red! Did you use an ‘old ping list’?


63 posted on 05/19/2012 7:32:28 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Claud

Do you think a small greenhouse would help?


64 posted on 05/19/2012 9:17:52 AM PDT by Silentgypsy
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To: tubebender
Hey Mr. Bender Looks like you are one of the lucky ones who get to see a great Annular Eclipse tomorrow.

Location Start

Partial

Eclipse

Start

Annular

Eclipse

Max

Eclipse

End

Annular

Eclipse

End

Partial

Eclipse

% of sun

 diameter

covered

Crescent City 5:07 pm 6:23 pm 6:26 pm
6:28 pm 7:35 pm 97%
Albuquerque, N.M. 6:29 7:33 7:35 7:38 8:36 97%
Redding 5:11 6:26 6:28 6:30 7:36 96%
Zion National Park 6:23 7:31 7:34 7:36 8:37 96%
Lake Tahoe 5:15 6:29 6:31 6:32 7:37 95%
Chico 5:13 6:28 6:30 6:31 7:37 95%
Eureka 5:09 6:25 6:27 6:29 7:36 95%
Grand Canyon 5:25 6:33 6:35 6:37 7:38 94%
Yosemite Village 5:18   6:33   7:39 92%
Sacramento 5:15   6:31   7:38 92%
Las Vegas 5:23   6:35   7:39 92%
San Francisco 5:15   6:32   7:39 90%
Monterey 5:18   6:34   7:41 88%
Palm Springs 5:26   6:38   7:42 86%
Lancaster 5:24   6:37   7:42 86%
Downtown L.A. 5:24   6:38   7:42 85%
Malibu 5:24   6:38   7:42 85%
Griffith Observatory 5:24   6:38   7:42 85%
Burbank 5:24   6:38   7:42 85%
Woodland Hills 5:24   6:38   7:42 85%
Chatsworth 5:24   6:37   7:42 85%
Santa Monica 5:24   6:38   7:42 85%
Alhambra 5:24   6:38   7:42 85%
Arcadia 5:24   6:38   7:42 85%
Rowland Heights 5:25   6:38   7:42 85%
Ontario 5:25   6:38   7:42 85%
Anaheim 5:25   6:38   7:42 85%
Oxnard 5:25   6:38   7:42 85%
Long Beach 5:25   6:38   7:42 84%
Redondo Beach 5:25   6:38   7:42 84%
Palos Verdes 5:25   6:38   7:42 84%
Huntington Beach 5:25   6:38   7:42 84%
San Diego 5:27   6:39   7:43 83%

65 posted on 05/19/2012 9:31:06 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: who knows what evil?

I used the list I have always had with the new additions added since JADB to over the thread. I did miss two that JADB had that I didn’t have.


66 posted on 05/19/2012 9:34:25 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Gotcha. JADB had removed me from the updated list...I got a ‘ping’, and thought maybe my computer had a ‘glitch’of some sort...


67 posted on 05/19/2012 9:38:15 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: txhurl

Indigo Rose? I am growing those this year for the anthocyanins, which are supposed to be of benefit to people dealing with insulin resistance syndrome.


68 posted on 05/19/2012 9:41:35 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: who knows what evil?
Yes, 'Indigo Rose' is the first commercially available.

OSU Blue

The eventual desired color lol:


69 posted on 05/19/2012 10:06:31 AM PDT by txhurl (Thank you, Andrew Breitbart. In your untimely passing, you have exposed these people one last time.)
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To: who knows what evil?

Does she know you were removed?


70 posted on 05/19/2012 10:48:54 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

She must have...I haven’t received one over the past seven or eight Fridays...just one of those things, I guess.


71 posted on 05/19/2012 11:42:26 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: txhurl
The eventual desired color lol:

ROTFLMAO!!!

72 posted on 05/19/2012 11:45:10 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Thanks RD. It will most likely be cloudy and it’s just as well because people don’t realize the danger in watching...


73 posted on 05/19/2012 11:46:25 AM PDT by tubebender (I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific.)
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To: texaschick
Big pots help. Tomatoes like the heat, but if the roots get hot, they'll grow long and leggy and you'll have very few fruit. You may also consider planting them with another plant to provide some shade or burying the pot halfway in the ground to provide additional protection from the heat.

Julienne tomato and mangoJulienne tomato and mango

Julienne tomato and bananaJulienne tomato and banana

If you have a little space, a small hydroponics setup may work.

Hydroponics May 2012Hydroponics May 2012

74 posted on 05/19/2012 1:01:35 PM PDT by Sarajevo (http://rulesoftheinternet.com/index.php?title=Main_Page)
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To: Red_Devil 232
The corn patch:

Corn 2012

Hoophouse gone wild:

Hoophouse gone wild

Cukes and beans:

Cukes and beans

We've already harvested summer squash, peppers, and zucchini. Acorn squash, ebony squash, and cukes will be ready to start harvesting soon. The melons and corn will probably be ready in mid-summer. The peanuts are so-so. About half the plants look chlorotic, even though I've amended the soil with ferric sulfate and super phosphate.

We've already suffered an attack by the deer.They jumped the fence in a small enclosure by the back door to the house and ate the Morning Glory......missed the grape plant though ☺. I think we have a rabbit in the neighborhood too.

The ducks have been nesting like crazy. One duck has already raised two clutches of 6 ducklings each, and the second female duck is currently sitting on another clutch. It looks like we'll have duck in the freezer this fall.

75 posted on 05/19/2012 1:19:09 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Don't take life too seriously; No one gets out alive.)
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To: Sarajevo

What are the dimensions on your raised beds?


76 posted on 05/19/2012 1:37:25 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232; JustaDumbBlonde

Okry planted and watered in this morning. Five varieties, five rows. It should be interesting to see how our new garden in the way outback does. I did not invest in a drip system and timer yet, I ran soaker hose down the rows and will manually start and end the cycles. If we leave town for a few days, I will put a timer on it though.


77 posted on 05/19/2012 6:11:56 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (This space available--inquire within)
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To: Sarajevo; Arrowhead1952

How do you avoid powdery mildew? If I plant cukes or melons or squash, one fairly rapidly develops it and infects the others, but my cukes seem to come down with it first.

Cukes are my favorite crop to watch grow, but I’ve never harvested one, no matter how many vines I plant.

Arrowhead can grow them fine, and we have nearly identical climate and soil conditions. I have a little more wind than he does.


78 posted on 05/19/2012 6:15:57 PM PDT by txhurl (Thank you, Andrew Breitbart. In your untimely passing, you have exposed these people one last time.)
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To: txhurl

Don’t crowd your plants they need to have good air circulation. Plant where they will get the max sunlight. There are powdery mildew (PM) resistant cukes one is called “Diva”.

You can spray your plants with a mixture of milk, water, baking soda and dish washing soap. 1 part milk to 9 parts water a couple of drops of soap and a tablespoon of baking soda. The baking soda raises the pH which makes it difficult for PM to survive. I don’t know what the milk does. The soap is there as a surfactant to help the spray spread and cling to the leaves. It is best to start the spraying before PM sets in. Reapply once a week. Spray the tops and bottoms of the leaves.

If your plants are already infected with PM - apply a fungicide.


79 posted on 05/20/2012 3:42:52 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Sorry to hear about this. Hope you and your Mother get better soon. It’s almost never too late to plant bush beans. LOL.


80 posted on 05/20/2012 6:42:31 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Red_Devil 232; All
Good Morning Red. Thanks for the thread. We have arrived at that magical date of May 15 this week. That's the starting bell for me to get going with my favorite garden plants.

Of course, the lettuce and garlic are the main spring crop growth, but I plant them in late fall in a sheltered location, and top with a row cover. Just finished pulling all the garlic.

We have eaten all the lettuce, except one plant which I have allowed to bolt to eventually collect seeds. Strawberry crop is just about finished.

All the tomatoes have been transplanted. I have seeds for a few varieties that I will plant directly in the ground.

Rosemary, Tarragon, Lavender, and Stevia have been transplanted to a sheltered location as well. I will be sowing a bunch of herbs in the front of that bed.

Next week, I'll finish the newest raised bed, and begin to plant the corn, beans, and melons.

Hubby has been busy cutting down trees to make way for some more fruit trees, and has planted about 140 tomato plants. Have a great week. God Bless.

81 posted on 05/20/2012 7:01:28 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
We raised a test patch last year. About 15 x 15. You can beat the heads inside a 5 gallon bucket or Spread out a clean sheet on the patio, walk on it, and toss it up in front of a fan to get all the chaff out.

When you cut it. Bind it into sheaves, and allow it to dry in the open or in a shed with plenty of air circulation. It is important to get the harvest, drying, and separate the wheat from the chaff done and avoid rainfall during that time.

I just use the blender or an electric coffee grinder to make the flour as I need it.

82 posted on 05/20/2012 7:29:35 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: rightly_dividing

You are going to have an okra forest soon.


83 posted on 05/20/2012 7:36:12 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
I certainly hope so! It's a thing with my wife; she really loves okry, especially fried, and she makes great gumbo too, so I decided that I was going to overwhelm her with okry this year, if I can. We have this sunny spot back at the next road and I have been hesitant to plant there because it would be so easy for someone to steal whatever we grow there. I ruled out planting a lemon tree, or figs, tomatos, peppers, etc. I just dont think that young, criminally minded Texas yoots will steal okry!
84 posted on 05/20/2012 7:54:55 AM PDT by rightly_dividing (This space available--inquire within)
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To: rightly_dividing

Especially not with the fire ants that are going to be all over them!


85 posted on 05/20/2012 1:51:13 PM PDT by txhurl (Thank you, Andrew Breitbart. In your untimely passing, you have exposed these people one last time.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

The two in the foreground of the hoophouse are 10ft x 10ft x 12inches deep, and the one at the end of the hoophouse is 12ft x 12ft x 12inches deep. If I were to do it again, I would make them 12ft x 2ft x 12inches for easier access down the center.


86 posted on 05/20/2012 6:29:36 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Don't take life too seriously; No one gets out alive.)
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To: txhurl
How do you avoid powdery mildew?

I haven't had a problem with powdery mildew (yet)....[knocking on wood]. My biggest problem is the deer.

87 posted on 05/20/2012 6:35:48 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Don't take life too seriously; No one gets out alive.)
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To: greeneyes

Thanks! I’m going to be doing some improvised processing this year but, in the future, I hope to have small scale machines to handle annual needs. Winnowing in front of a fan is probably just exactly what I’ll be doing - thanks again!


88 posted on 05/20/2012 7:37:18 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (I'm for Churchill in 1940!)
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To: NautiNurse
First, please permit me to proudly announce that I completed the Master Gardener program this week, passed the final exam and plant identification test! Whew!

WOO HOO!!! Congratulations, FRiend... I know you worked very hard for that designation.

Hope you had a nice celebration this weekend! :-)

Your garden photos are awesome. The fruit looks so luscious...

89 posted on 05/20/2012 9:42:16 PM PDT by nutmeg (So... Clinton was our first black president, and Obama is our first gay president?)
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To: Sarajevo; txhurl; Red_Devil 232

How do you avoid powdery mildew?

I haven't had a problem with powdery mildew (yet)....[knocking on wood]. My biggest problem is the deer.

Surrounded by miles and miles of houses and roads, deer are not a problem for me. Hard to believe when we first bought this house cows and horses still grazed at the end of the street. Now all you can see in any direction are miles and miles of houses and roads. The wildlife pestering my little garden are squirrels and birds.

This morning I will be spraying for powdery mildew which has attacked my threeYamato Sanjaku cucumber plants. They are in an earthbox. In the earthbox next to them are three truly prolific Baby Cucina cucumber plants which are not infected. Directly across from them at the edge of my ground garden are two more earthboxes. One has three Sooyow Nishiki cucumber plants and the other has three Suyo Long cucumber plants. Off by itself is a 15-gallon pot are four sprawling Spacemaster plants. Along the patio are twelve Diva cucumber plants. Thus far, only the Yamato Sanjaku plants are infected. Go figure.

I'm going to try Daconil which is supposed to be a broad spectrum fungicide. Will let you know how it works out for me.

Thus far, the only difference between the plants is the Yamato Sanjakus get a bit less sun. Maybe the variety, the shade or both have something to do with the infection.

BTW, my Baby Cucino, Suyo Long, and Spacemasters have been producing for three weeks now. Baby Cucino seeds are expensive (ten seeds for nearly $5) but plants are so prolific and cukes so tasty the price is worth it. Suyo Long cukes will produce thick fruit to about two feet. I've been picking them early but now that the fridge is full have let them continue to grow on the vine. Last year I picked some which were well over two feet and still very tasty. Spacemasters produce thick, eight inch cukes. The skin does have a slightly bitter taste. The Yamato Sanjaku, Sooyow Nishiki, and Diva's are just now starting to produce fruit. First year to grow them.

90 posted on 05/21/2012 6:32:41 AM PDT by Racehorse
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To: Red_Devil 232
What are the dimensions on your raised beds?

When I built mine I made them 4'x4'x1' deep. The idea at the time was
1- simplicity. A sheet of 3/4" plywood split down the middle, then ripped into 1' strips would make frames for 2 boxes.

2- EZ maintenance. By being 4' square you can reach the center from any side with ease for planting & weeding.

If I ever build another set of raised beds I would keep them 1' deep, but make them long. Maybe 20 - 24 feet long. As for width, I would make it the width of my full size rototiller + 1" clearance on each side. Then I could blast through it in the spring in one pass and be ready to plant.

91 posted on 05/21/2012 7:01:35 AM PDT by Petruchio (I Think . . . Therefor I FReep.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

We had thin clouds to filter the eclipse late yesterday but people who took the time drive a few miles up 299 had unrestricted views. Despite the clouds it was obvious we were experiencing dimming sunlight.


92 posted on 05/21/2012 7:58:56 AM PDT by tubebender
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To: WorkingClassFilth

Your welcome. Keep me posted about how it goes, and the effectiveness of whatever equipment you get.


93 posted on 05/21/2012 9:49:10 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: tubebender

I did not notice anything here in Midland.


94 posted on 05/21/2012 10:44:22 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: tubebender

Happy belated Birthday, tubebender.


95 posted on 05/21/2012 12:54:54 PM PDT by tillacum
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To: NautiNurse

That is an accomplishment. I’d never be able to pass the identification part. Congratulations.


96 posted on 05/21/2012 12:57:37 PM PDT by tillacum
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To: txhurl

OH YUCK. This morning I noticed a fire ant bed at the end of my 16 door raised bed. They are so feisty when then are disturbed. I’ll take care of them tomorrow morning, as soon as it’s daylight.

I’ve been picking green beans, salad stuff, cukes, squash, tomatoes, green beans and hubby is humming hisself happy, picking all that okra. He picked some today and said they may have to be fried. I don’t eat okra...but do cook it for him and his buddies. My red and green yard long beans are beginning to dangle, I’ll pick them in a couple of days, I let them go about 12 to 18 inches, no more. They are very tasty. I have them travelling along a bent 10 foot rebar. Looks neat. One bean, I’ve forgotten the name, but it’s in a pot, with a cucumber. I’d run out of rebar, so put two tomatoe frames together and they are climbing that. Looks kind of neat.


97 posted on 05/21/2012 1:19:14 PM PDT by tillacum
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To: txhurl

I have some purple tomatoes, but they have yet to bud. I’m really looking forward to the fruit. Gardening is exciting, when something new is growing, and you’re wondering what it will taste like.


98 posted on 05/21/2012 1:21:43 PM PDT by tillacum
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To: Racehorse
Surrounded by miles and miles of houses and roads, deer are not a problem for me. Hard to believe when we first bought this house cows and horses still grazed at the end of the street. Now all you can see in any direction are miles and miles of houses and roads. The wildlife pestering my little garden are squirrels and birds.

It's sad, isn't it. When I lived in your neck of the woods, my plants were attacked by everything that could attack them, aphids, vine borers, tomato cutworms, everything......

Of course, I did get quite a few Pecan and Loquat trees. The squirrels would constantly raid my neighbors trees and bury the seeds in my yard.

99 posted on 05/21/2012 2:37:53 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Don't take life too seriously; No one gets out alive.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Well I can understand RD as I have been through Midland and I didn’t see anything either...


100 posted on 05/21/2012 3:23:42 PM PDT by tubebender
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