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US should return stolen land to Indian tribes, says United Nations
Guardian ^ | 4 may 2012 | Chris McGreal

Posted on 05/04/2012 7:15:27 PM PDT by TexasSecede79366

Does this mean I have a legitimate claim to South Carolina?

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Ok,so I'm only 1/4 Cherokee. Can I have a couple of counties?
1 posted on 05/04/2012 7:15:35 PM PDT by TexasSecede79366
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To: TexasSecede79366

Tell me about Ohio.


2 posted on 05/04/2012 7:17:49 PM PDT by mark3681
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To: Nachum

Ping.


3 posted on 05/04/2012 7:20:17 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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he US should return the land that the UN sits on to the Native Americans.


4 posted on 05/04/2012 7:20:32 PM PDT by Jenny217
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To: mark3681
GET THE US OUT OF THE UN AND THE UN OUT OF THE US.

Some of us remember where that adage came from.

5 posted on 05/04/2012 7:21:10 PM PDT by oldtimer
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To: TexasSecede79366
Maybe the Indians can turn that huge building on the East Side of Manhattan into a giant casino.And the current occupants can move their operation to Havana,Caracas or Tehran where they'd feel much more at home.
6 posted on 05/04/2012 7:21:38 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Unlike Mrs Obama,I've Been Proud Of This Country My *Entire* Life!)
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To: mark3681
I am 1/32 Cherokee. Give me all your land.

Ohio... I am 1/32 Mohawk....Give me all your land.

7 posted on 05/04/2012 7:21:38 PM PDT by BRL
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To: TexasSecede79366

virtually every nation on earth has been determined by the effective use of force and the U.S. is no exception. The whole concept of “Indian Nations” within the U.S. borders is inane.All reservations, Indian nations, etc etc should be abolished, the people involved assimilated into society and join the 21st century. That having been said, the U.S. should get out of the U.N. and get the U.N. out of the U.S. !!!


8 posted on 05/04/2012 7:23:03 PM PDT by terycarl (lurking, but well informed)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Maybe the Indians can turn that huge building on the East Side of Manhattan into a giant casino.

Could you imagine Bloomberg watching all those cigarettes getting sold duty free?

9 posted on 05/04/2012 7:23:14 PM PDT by BRL
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To: Jenny217
The US should return the land that the UN sits on to the Native Americans.

Great minds think alike.You were posting as I was typing.

10 posted on 05/04/2012 7:24:16 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Unlike Mrs Obama,I've Been Proud Of This Country My *Entire* Life!)
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To: TexasSecede79366

Kentucky’s mine!!!


11 posted on 05/04/2012 7:24:35 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: oldtimer

The UN — lowest common denominator.


12 posted on 05/04/2012 7:25:02 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: oldtimer

The UN — lowest common denominator.


13 posted on 05/04/2012 7:25:16 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: mark3681

My wife is either 1/32 or 1/64 Cherokee (all that plundering and pillaging, you know. Oh, ok, her greatgrandmother was Cherokee). Can she claim a slot machine?

In our Jewish side of the family, we have/had 2 lawyers and 2 paralegals. We belong to the “SUE TRIBE”. What can we put a claim on - Lower Manhattan, a good deli.


14 posted on 05/04/2012 7:25:16 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: TexasSecede79366

>>Does this mean I have a legitimate claim to South Carolina?

No, because SC needs to be one of the states that seceeds from the Blue State Socialist Republic.


15 posted on 05/04/2012 7:26:33 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: TexasSecede79366

On returning stolen land -

I think we should first reclaim some misappropriated property. I believe it lies in Manhattan, from 42nd Street to 48th Street and First Avenue to the East River.

.....and promptly deport those that “work” there.


16 posted on 05/04/2012 7:26:33 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: TexasSecede79366

Dear U.N. -

Thank you so much for your concern about our Native Americans. We are grateful for your humanitarian efforts to right past wrongs and to bring justice where it is so sorely needed.

All I can say in response, in a most heartfelt way, is f**k yourselves.

Sincerely,

RightOnline
Raleigh, NC


17 posted on 05/04/2012 7:26:52 PM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

My cheekbones are higher than yours, so I get more!


18 posted on 05/04/2012 7:27:54 PM PDT by boop (I hate hippies and dopeheads. Just hate them. ...Ernest Borgnine)
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To: Jenny217
The King of Spain once owned virtually all of North America and the greater part of South America.

Eventually Philippe I gave much of it away ~ some to his cousins in France, some to his cousins in Scotland, some to other relatives ~ even some for general colonization by whoever wished ~ that's the old core area called VIRGINIA. That stretched from roughly what is now the Pennsylvania/New York border South to South Carolina/Georgia. The line was smudgy down there since that part was already getting carved into Spanish landgrants.

So, how did the Indians deal with this ~ ?

Well, they didn't except the Brits took care to make sure the locals believed they'd been paid for their land. After the Revolution, and a couple of disasters, the US government took care to do that, as did Canada.

Spain never did any of that although they'd pay ransom to the Comanches for kidnapped people. The Comanches didn't own anything anyway ~ they dressed in Western clothes, used firearms and rode horses.

In the end treaties were signed for disposition of all the land and payments were made. Even the Cherokee were paid for their land albeit in a forced sale ~ the government wanted the gold there dug up and put into circulation (monetarism was a big deal back then so that made taking land easier on the conscience I guess).

There are no Indians to whom the US owes any money for land ~ it's been paid. Even the Brits and Canadians made their payments. Spain didn't.

I"d recommend the UNited NATions go see them about it!

While doing that they need to check out the Dutch on this slave thing ~ lots of unpaid bills there.

19 posted on 05/04/2012 7:28:44 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: TexasSecede79366

Sounds like a push for Agenda 21 to get people off rural land and into cities.


20 posted on 05/04/2012 7:28:51 PM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: BRL
Could you imagine Bloomberg watching all those cigarettes getting sold duty free?

He'd faint dead away.A few years back there was a story on local news about an Indian tribe in Rhode Island that was selling cigarettes on their land (reservation?) without charging state tax.There was a film clip showing RI state cops taking people away in cuffs...it even showed a cop roughing up a guy.I didn't hear anything about the final resolution of the case.

21 posted on 05/04/2012 7:29:19 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Unlike Mrs Obama,I've Been Proud Of This Country My *Entire* Life!)
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To: TexasSecede79366

Gee, does this mean Elizabeth Warren has a shot at being President of the Nation?


22 posted on 05/04/2012 7:29:47 PM PDT by Huaynero
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To: TexasSecede79366

23 posted on 05/04/2012 7:30:28 PM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: TexasSecede79366

Okay, we’ll start giving it back with the UN’s piece of stolen land in Manhattan.


24 posted on 05/04/2012 7:30:34 PM PDT by MissesBush (The Fourth Estate has Become a Fifth Column)
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To: terycarl
LMAO! Civilization has always wiped out the indigenous populations.

This is nothing more than uber bureaucrats trying to rule the world.
Nobody said they were smart.
But then again we have Obama in the White Hut.

25 posted on 05/04/2012 7:31:26 PM PDT by TexasSecede79366 (Do politicians satisfy the literal definition of zombies?)
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To: TexasSecede79366

They’re welcome to come and try to take it but they should be warned. Michigan has a stand your ground law.


26 posted on 05/04/2012 7:31:35 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: boop

I don’t have any cheekbones. Custer cut my great great grandfather, Limping Ox’s cheekbones off and none of his progeny have any. I want all of Montana for reparations.


27 posted on 05/04/2012 7:33:12 PM PDT by Ax
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To: TexasSecede79366

In before anyone here tries to claim Virginia.

It’s mine. On behalf of my Patawomeck Tribe ancestors, I will be petitioning the UN to declare me ruler and rightful owner of the Commonwealth of Virginia.

Ya’ll are welcome to visit though.


29 posted on 05/04/2012 7:34:12 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: TexasSecede79366
Another post took some of my thunder, but my stance has always been, how far do we go back? The Mexicans say they want Cali and southwest, Texas back, okay, did this land always belong to Mexico, oh that's right it was won from the Spaniards, so we should give it all back to them, but wait they took it from others, who took it from others, in fact Mexico was never a country till recently, the land was conquered by Spanish and then won in the revolution, so Mexico needs to give the land back to the Aztecs and the Incas, but I imagine they took it from others, and the America "Indians", I am so tired of hearing how they were all living in harmony singing Kum Bah Ya till the white man showed up. Bullsh*t, they were killing each other and capturing land for a long time before we got here, this goes for every country in the world. I call it "recent-ism", that is we have to give land back to those we took it from last, but it doesn't go any further. UN get the F*CK out of here you bloated, croaked, scandal laden, fraudulent, criminal, Jew hating, mussy lovin anti-american, anti-freedom pieces of SH*T.
30 posted on 05/04/2012 7:36:55 PM PDT by blitz128
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To: TexasSecede79366

The United Nations should return the entire earth to it’s rightfull owners.


31 posted on 05/04/2012 7:37:08 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: TexasSecede79366

I want the Louisiana Purchase.


32 posted on 05/04/2012 7:42:01 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: TexasSecede79366

My grandfather had high cheekbones.

Just gimme all of Illinois south of I-64 and we’ll call it a deal, k?


33 posted on 05/04/2012 7:42:57 PM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: TexasSecede79366

I definitely think that Manhattan and other parts of NY should be given back to the Indians. Only Indians should be allowed to live on those tribal lands.


34 posted on 05/04/2012 7:43:15 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: TexasSecede79366
Anaya said Rosebud is an example where returning land taken by the US government could improve a tribe's fortunes as well as contribute to a "process of reconciliation".


35 posted on 05/04/2012 7:44:33 PM PDT by Brandonmark (2012: Our Hope IS Change!)
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To: Jenny217

bingo...except this is just the kind of turmol and vullshit this pos wants to get started to tear us apart for his agenda to be dictator for life...well i say bring it on...lets start the rumble


36 posted on 05/04/2012 7:44:38 PM PDT by ldish (Give me Freedom and Liberty or...)
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To: Jenny217
bingo...except this is just the kind of turmoil and bullshit this pos wants to get started to tear us apart for his agenda to be dictator for life...well i say bring it on...lets start the rumble
37 posted on 05/04/2012 7:45:09 PM PDT by ldish (Give me Freedom and Liberty or...)
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To: boop

Not if I’m standing over you with a tomahawk.


38 posted on 05/04/2012 7:45:49 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: TexasSecede79366

The UN could always say the US could give its ‘donation’ to the UN that keeps it afloat to the Indian tribes.


39 posted on 05/04/2012 7:45:49 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Oh, ok, let me see, you are married to....Elizabeth Warren?


40 posted on 05/04/2012 7:45:56 PM PDT by taterjay
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To: TexasSecede79366
I’m Native American, too, according to Romney.

Tribe of Nephite.

I Smell Jackson County, Missouri in my future!

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41 posted on 05/04/2012 7:47:05 PM PDT by KC_Lion (I am finished with listening to empty promises of the great GOP saving me in 4 more years.)
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To: Ax

To #27: Would you take a Custer Stand as reparations?


42 posted on 05/04/2012 7:47:25 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: TexasSecede79366

My grandfather was Choctaw. I call dibs on Oklahoma.


43 posted on 05/04/2012 7:47:32 PM PDT by DejaJude
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To: terycarl

“virtually every nation on earth has been determined by the effective use of force and the U.S. is no exception.”

Absolutely.

You only own that which you are willing and able to defend, by whatever means. It was true yesterday, it is true today, and will be true tomorrow.


44 posted on 05/04/2012 7:48:03 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: blitz128

Unfortunately the US played the same games. The Chinese must allow Taiwan to declare independence, but the US crushed the Confederate States in the War of Southern Succession. The US backed the existence of Israel after the Romans kicked them out for over 1700+ years and over riding the Arabs who live there and now we are upset by the UN demand for giving land back to the Indians after the US took it 200+ years ago. Using Israel as a basis, the Indian claims to US land is at least 10x stronger then the Jewish claims to Arab lands for a homeland. Before all you freepers freak out about my post, the moral of the lesson is minimize overseas entanglements, because in order to maintain an empire, one has to become a hypocrite and end up making enemies that otherwise may not happen if we have kept ourselves home minding our own business.


45 posted on 05/04/2012 7:52:45 PM PDT by Fee
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To: DejaJude
My wife is a member of the Seminole nation. I claim kalifornia. Sorry kalifornians. If you're citizens of the US, you gotta go east. At least to Nevada.

If you're not citizens of the US, you gotta go to messyco.

46 posted on 05/04/2012 7:54:47 PM PDT by LouAvul
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To: TexasSecede79366

What does the UN know? My ancestors bought the land grant land from not one, but two tribes (Nanticoke and Powhatan), because the two were fighting over ownership. Now, UN, get off of my lawn!


47 posted on 05/04/2012 7:55:37 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: taterjay

Elizabeth Taylor, not Warren. If I’m going to be married to any woman named “Elizabeth” it would be Taylor (whose autograph I have) or Shue.(I can dream, can’t I)?

Warren is a leftist pig and the only Indian in her is a bowl of curry she had for dinner.

If she gets elected to Congress, her constituents will find out that she is, like other leftist Democrats, an “Indian-giver” (liar/cheat) while also being an “Indian taker” (i.e. a Democrat tax-your-ass-off politician).

However, Warren might also be an indian of another kind, a “red”, as in marxist.

Outside of a handful of Indian reds from the American Indian Movement, the American Indian has been one of the most loyal groups of Americans around (the brave Code-Talkers of WW2; Ira Hayes, Iwo; Jim Thorp; Vietnam, Iraq, etc).

Warren is a marxist pig and no honorable Indian tribe would claim her as one of them. They know a marxist in buffalo skins when they see one.


48 posted on 05/04/2012 7:56:32 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Fee

Say what?

(I may or may not agree, totally confused by that)


49 posted on 05/04/2012 7:57:30 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Fall Forward")
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To: Fee

For context for readers.

Are you Chinese?


50 posted on 05/04/2012 7:58:54 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Fall Forward")
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