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Some thoughts on TSA scanning equipment, and its effects
11/30/10 | me

Posted on 11/30/2010 10:13:13 AM PST by Jubal Harshaw

Just a few facts that may or may not go together. I'd like to ask for help in understanding this combination of facts:

We know that William Ayers, who appears to be one of Obama's mentors, planned for the killing of 25 million Americans. It may be that someone who accepted Ayer's mentorship might be willing to countenance such mass killings.

Some believe that someone within the Obama administration is racist, as evinced, for example, by the administration's handling of the Black Panther voter intimidation case.

If a racist wanted to kill 25 million people, and wanted to do so in a way that preferentially killed white people rather than black people, one way to do so might be to spread a disease which affects white people more than black people. Such a disease might be skin cancer, melanoma in particular. The US incidence rate for melanoma in whites is approximately 20 to 30 times the US incidence rate for melanoma in blacks. Another way to say this: black people are 20 to 30 times more resistant to whatever causes melanoma than are white people.

Melanoma is generally thought to be caused by exposure to radiation. The Sun is, of course, one such source of radiation, but there are other sources. An intense exposure to radiation tuned to deposit its energy on the skin, for example, might be reasonably expected to increase the chance of melanoma among susceptible people so irradiated. Such an intense exposure might occur as a result of, say, an X-ray scanning device which has an overall low radiation output, but, for each pixel being scanned, has a very high radiation output. During any instant while such a scan is occurring, most of the area to be scanned won't be exposed to radiation at all, so the overall radiation output may appear low. The area corresponding to a given pixel being acquired during that instant, however, would be subject to intense radiation. To allay concerns about such a device, a measure, such as the air kerma, for the average radiation output of the device might be made public. Measures for the radiation intensity, such as the radiation flux, might be withheld.

If such scanning devices actually existed, and were set up to scan passengers at airports, the devices would be far more likely to be encountered by white people rather than black people. My estimate, based on a lifetime of flying, is that only a few percent of the flying public is black. Thus, both because of racial differences in predisposition to melanoma, and because of racial differences in the amount of flying done, airport placement of such putative scanning devices would likely cause far more melanoma among white persons than among black persons.

Focusing on children would make such devices even more effective at causing melanoma, since children are generally considered more susceptible to radiation damage than adults. If, say, these devices were set up to scan passengers at airports during a busy holiday travel time, when people are more likely to be flying with their children, the carcinogenic effects could be further expressed.

There is an obvious, and quite monstrous, conclusion to all these observations. However, that obvious conclusion is not necessarily correct. Given the seriousness of the obvious conclusion, I believe that intense thought should be given to addressing alternate conclusions before accepting that the obvious conclusion is the right one. I'd like to request the input of intelligent people on this topic, and, frankly, to be proven wrong.


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: deathraytsa; scanners; tsa; tsadeathray; tsapervs
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1 posted on 11/30/2010 10:13:16 AM PST by Jubal Harshaw
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To: Jubal Harshaw

Are you saying that these machines are being set up to eliminate white people?

They are not. They are being set up to line the pockets of the manufacturer. A friend of Obama.


2 posted on 11/30/2010 10:17:38 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: Jubal Harshaw

Do you think this could be payback for the program that whites allegedly used to try to eliminate the black population through the use of AIDS?


3 posted on 11/30/2010 10:21:31 AM PST by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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To: Jubal Harshaw
Spreadin' the glove: TSA infecting U.S.?
Those latex gloves Transportation Security Administration agents wear
while giving airline passengers those infamous full-body pat-downs
apparently aren't there for the safety and security of passengers - only the TSA agents.
"Herpes via latex glove ... ewwww," wrote one participant
on the independence-minded AR15 website forum."


Doctors Sound TSA Germ Alert
Syphilis, lice, gonorrhea, ringworm, chlamydia, staph, strep,
noro and papilloma viruses all are part of the
possible fringe benefits when airline passengers
next go through a full hands-on pat-down
by agents of the federal government's Transportation Security Administration"


Enhanced pat-downs and latex gloves - how often do screeners change them?"


TSA Groin Searches Menstruating Woman"

IMPERIAL CONTROL ==================================

Obama: TSA's Nude Screening a Necessary Inconvenience





TSA: Some gov't officials to skip airport security
Cabinet secretaries, top congressional leaders and an exclusive group
of senior U.S. officials are exempt from toughened new airport screening procedures"


"..According to a Center for Responsive Politics review of the most recent
personal financial disclosure filings, eight members of Congress --
three Democrats and five Republicans --
owned at least $2,000 worth of stock in L-3 Communications, which
is one of the two main contractors involved in the full-body scanning machines.
Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) disclosed possessing the most stock
with a minimum investment of at least $500,000 and a maximum value of $1 million.
Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.).............$500,001 to $1,000,000
Rep. Michael Castle (R-Del)...........$16,002 to $65,000
Rep. Michael McCaul (R-Texas)......$16,002 to $65,000
Rep. Judy Biggert (R-Ill.).................$15,001 to $50,000
Rep. Ron Klein (D-Fla.)...................$1,001 to $15,000
Rep. Robert Scott (D-Va.)...............$1,001 to $15,000
Sen. Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.)......................$2,173
Rep. Kenny Marchant (R-Texas).......$2,086"

4 posted on 11/30/2010 10:22:18 AM PST by Diogenesis ('Freedom is the light of all sentient beings.' - Optimus Prime)
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To: Jubal Harshaw

I heard it was a long term plot that originally came from the RFWD organisation...Radiologist for World Domination, and Ayers took it a step further...but I believe it’s still funded and protected by RFWD.


5 posted on 11/30/2010 10:24:11 AM PST by stuartcr (When politicians politicize issues, aren't they just doing their job?)
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To: Jubal Harshaw
Also, keep in mind that ABC has announced that season two of V will debut on January 4, 2011.
6 posted on 11/30/2010 10:25:45 AM PST by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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www.npr.org/assets/news/2010/05/17/concern.pdf


7 posted on 11/30/2010 10:40:30 AM PST by loungitude ( The truth hurts.)
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To: Jubal Harshaw

X-Rays (and gamma radiation) are penetrating radiation that is not readily stopped by the skin. Biologically, x-rays will cause cancer in cells that reproduce the most often, such as fetal cells and bone marrow. Skin cells are not reproduced/replaced often and are thus not affected by X-rays as are most internal organs.

Thus, X-rays do not adversely affect one race over another.

As to your assertion that whites fly in greater proportion than blacks (which I do not necessarily support) would only have relevance if you could show that these machines are installed only in airports from areas that have a greater proportion of whites. For example, are there any such machines in the New Orleans airport vs. the Salt Lake City airport?


8 posted on 11/30/2010 10:40:40 AM PST by kidd
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To: netmilsmom

Not to make an argument for or against the proposition being considered, but those two purposes are not mutually exclusive.

An argument in favor of the proposition is that if a mass killing were undertaken suddenly and directly, social resistance would be equally sudden and direct, an undesirable situation for the would-be Marxist revolutionary. Better to have the effect be long and drawn out, with many private individuals encountering their demise one at a time, not in the shocking horror of a mass death camp (the original Weather Underground vision), but in the individual quietude of a hospital bed with family and friends. How humane.

An argument against the proposition is that while Marxism uses racial themes to motivate population blocks, it is an equal opportunity destroyer. Assuming a plot of the magnitude you suggest really exists, it would be steered by a Soros-like individual, and geared not to the destruction of whites per se but to leaders of the conservative middle class, arguably also a population more likely to be flying than the unwashed poor. But it would bee too dull a weapon to accomplish its purpose, as many in the highest reaches of the conservative middle class (and above) have alternatives to commercial flight.

All I know is this. I have a consulting job with the state right now that concerns our readiness for radiological disasters. There are people here, in our state government, who do dose assessment for a living, who do not trust the backscatter devices, despite the published data. And published data may not matter even if it’s theoretically correct because, based on experience with other such devices, if the calibration is off, and the image quality is poor, the ill-trained TSA staff will probably just turn up the intensity to get a better image, much to the dismay of the victim’s dna, I’m sure.


9 posted on 11/30/2010 10:44:37 AM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: sonofagun; All

On the subject of contamination to be worried about, I just saw this on AOL. Apparently millions of homes have an asbestos containing insulation that could cause lung cancer. My first thought was why hasn’t this administration done anything about it. Then I read the entire article and saw that in 2003 Christine Todd Whitman at EPA wanted to make a public announcement. It was opposed by VP Dick Cheney, and Halliburtin apparently faced some liability. So now my thought is again, why hasn’t this administration done anything about it.

http://www.aolnews.com/killer-in-the-attic/article/us-government-refuses-to-act-on-cancer-causing-zonolite-insulation/19731468?ncid=webmail

I am renovating an old home that has some kind of crumbly blown in insulation. Does anyone know how it can be tested?


10 posted on 11/30/2010 10:44:37 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Jubal Harshaw

HELP YOU MAKE IT TO YOUR FLIGHT - Buck Howdy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a8jGVXOMsw


11 posted on 11/30/2010 11:10:10 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: kidd

We have them in Detroit.
I can tell you from personal experience the ratio of white fliers to other races is about equal.


12 posted on 11/30/2010 11:11:26 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: Jubal Harshaw

This is conspiracy thinking on such an interesting and somewhat logical level - I have to ask - are you Russian?


13 posted on 11/30/2010 11:12:55 AM PST by GOPJ ('Power abdicates only under the stress of counter-power." Martin Buber /a Tea-nami's coming..)
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To: Jubal Harshaw

You are nuts!


14 posted on 11/30/2010 11:29:25 AM PST by Jean S
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To: Jubal Harshaw

Testicle and
Scrotum
Analyzers


15 posted on 11/30/2010 11:30:39 AM PST by Darteaus94025
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To: Jubal Harshaw

Men should be worried about the drop in fertility, as the little fellas are very sensitive to radiation. That’s all I have to say.


16 posted on 11/30/2010 11:31:42 AM PST by 1st-P-In-The-Pod (...and just how long would you like to drag out your childhood?)
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To: GOPJ

I am flattered by your curiosity, but, no, I am not Russian. I am Greek; my people have been generating conspiracy theories, both with and without any kind of logical support, since long before the very existence of the Rus.

In fact, my people were instrumental in generating the image of Russians as being conspiracy-minded. For example, Ivan the Terrible, a poster child for conspiracy theories taken to an extreme, and who lived a real Greek Tragedy of a life, actually was part Greek. His grandma was Zoe Paleologos, niece of the last Greek Byzantine Emperor.


17 posted on 11/30/2010 12:07:45 PM PST by Jubal Harshaw
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To: netmilsmom

Two (or 25 million) birds, one stone.


18 posted on 11/30/2010 2:24:16 PM PST by RedHerringHack (I am an "Actual-American")
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To: Springfield Reformer
I have a consulting job with the state right now that concerns our readiness for radiological disasters. There are people here, in our state government, who do dose assessment for a living, who do not trust the backscatter devices, despite the published data. And published data may not matter even if it’s theoretically correct because, based on experience with other such devices, if the calibration is off, and the image quality is poor, the ill-trained TSA staff will probably just turn up the intensity to get a better image, much to the dismay of the victim’s dna, I’m sure.

I wish there was proof these measures were stopping terrorism - I fear that's not the case...

19 posted on 11/30/2010 3:34:39 PM PST by GOPJ ('Power abdicates only under the stress of counter-power." Martin Buber /a Tea-nami's coming..)
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To: Jubal Harshaw
A shared grandma, perhaps?

Looking at the TSA situation from various positions is important... I don't think dna damage is as intentional as it seems - more like 'men of action' wanting to DO SOMETHING... Men of action (as opposed to 'men of thought' - often overlook the unintended consequences. This might be a classic case of that. If so, your musings - brought up early - could shine a light on that situation. Maybe in time to prevent future problems.... Thanks for an interesting post.

20 posted on 11/30/2010 3:51:24 PM PST by GOPJ ('Power abdicates only under the stress of counter-power." Martin Buber /a Tea-nami's coming..)
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