Obama's certificate number is later than the Nordyke twins even though he born a day earlier.

Vanity | 7/28/09 | Vanity

[Smokeyblue]

DinkyJackson wrote on this thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2302882/posts?q=1&;page=101

Obama’s (finally published) birth certificate serial number is 151 1961 - 010641, he was born on 8-4-1961, and the certificate was filed by the Registrar on 8-8-1961 ( http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html )

Today, the Honolulu advertiser publishes a story, and at the bottom includes a set of long-form BC’s from a woman who had twins at Kapiolani on 8-5-1961 who went to school with Obama.

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20090728/NEWS01/907280345/Hawaii+officials+confirm+Obama%E2%80%99s+original+birth+certificate+still+exists

These twins were born the day AFTER Obama AT KAPIOLANI. And their certificate numbers are LOWER than his (10637 and 10638). They were born 8-5-1961, the certificates were signed by mom 8-7-1961, signed by the MD 8-11-1961, and signed by the Registrar 8-11-1961.

THIS MEANS HE DEFINITELY WAS NOT BORN AT KAPIOLANI, because his BC number (born on Aug 4th and filed with Registrar Aug 8th) should have a lower number than the twins (Born Aug 5th at Kapiolani and filed with Registrar Aug 11th)

[1000 silverlings]

So many of these questions can only be answered by seeing the original long form. What number is printed on it?

Exactly

[rolling_stone]

A Picture? You mean with my 1960 vintage Petri 7 35mm camera with flashbulb? What’s it worth, sorry only B&W, tri-x 400 asa, but a good thing as Kodachrome would have deteriorated a bit by now.

Actually I think that Obama spent time In Little Tripler Army Hospital...

[rolling_stone]

Mrs Nordyke did not remember Obama.. 7 hours difference in their birth...

[cynwoody]

I would think that the hospital he was supposedly born at would have the birth data in sequential order.

I would think the sequence number would have been assigned by the Health Department, not the hospital.

It's quite likely the Health Department stamped the applications with a date stamper as they arrived and put them in a pile. Then every week or so, they went through the batch and processed the applications, at which time the certificate IDs were assigned. I can think of no other explanation for why the numbers were assigned out of filing sequence.

Obama's was filed on Tuesday, the 8th, and the Nordyke twins' on the Friday, the 11th. The Honolulu Advertiser published the announcement on Sunday, the 13th, and the Star-Bulletin the following day.

[Red Steel]

No reports. No one saw them.

[Ann Archy]

Obama said he found his Birth Certificate and Vaccination records when he was writing one of his memoirs.

[BulletBobCo]

I was born in Hawaii the end of March. My birth certificate was not filled out until a few days in April. So I am not sure if someone that was born a day later might have there birth cert filled out before mine. The person born after me could possibly have a birth cert number that is before mine.

As a side note, I ordered a replacement copy of my birth cert a couple of days ago and will be interested to see if it is the long form like I have possessed for over 50 years.

[fr_freak]

Serial numbers are stamped on. Obama’s can be compared with the ones just before and the ones just after to see if they have a similarity. I would think it would be hard to fake a stamp from 1961.

Sounds good. Let's do it. Now all we need is the birth certificate.

[Ann Archy]

Where does it say Mrs. Nordyke doesn’t rememebr them?? Did she get interviewed?

[wintertime]

lazy journalists
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

We must call them what they are: COMMUNIST journalists.

[cynwoody]

If he could only get the amended version, that’s not what he would want to show everyone.

The short form he put out last summer doesn't say anything about being amended, nor does it list Lolo Soetoro as the dad, which it presumably would, had Soetoro adopted him.

And when Gov. Lingle said his certificate was sealed, was she just stating a fact due to adoption or did she have the certificate sealed?

That story was a World Nut Daily canard. There was no need for the governor to "seal" the certificate, since it's already sealed by Hawaiian law.

[Typical_Whitey]

Oahu is not a huge island... There may have been a lapse of a few days between births thats Why it is important to find out the dates of cert #’s 639 and 640....

This almost exactly proves that Anne Dunham was in Kenya on Aug 4th gave birth and one or two days later returned to Hawaii and registered his birth.

It certainly raises more questions that it solves and in my opinion is damning to his case that he was born in the USA

[BP2]

The twins just have "61" instead of "1961". Anyone know why there's a difference in the numbering format?

The "Certification of Live Birth" in Hawaii did not exist until November 2001. If you are from Hawaii, and request a "birth certificate" today, you'll get the abstract "Certification of Live Birth" by default -- it's easier for the clerks to pull that up on their computers and print.

From what I've observed (and shown below), if there are 4 digits for the year that the person was born (also Y2K compliant), then the form is a "Certification of Live Birth":

... vs a "Certificate of Live Birth", which shows only the last two digits of the year that the person was born:

Obama has a "Certificate of Live Birth" (or similar) as a ROOT DOCUMENT. That is "original birth certificate" that he's hiding.

[manc]

very true

[TurtleUp]

The Registrar made a convenient, careless but unintentional error when he assigned the numbers. Wassamatter with you suspicious individuals? Anybody can make a mistake. Let’s put this matter to rest.

More likely, certificate numbers are assigned in the order in which the paperwork was received. That's often as much as a week out of sequence, even today. I don't think the certificate number issue is relevant. I am very concerned about obama working so hard not to release his BC, but the number doesn't interest me.

[Cloverfarm]

Mrs. Nordyke did not remember Obama ...

Ya know, in the 1960s around here — mainland, fly-over country — the birth of a bi-racial baby would be something that folks in the hospital remember.

My mom and mother-in-law remember who was on their ward when they delivered and even told us about babies born on the same day or within a day or two of us.

[hoosiermama]

Uh...Obama IS a zero?

[BP2]

Mrs Nordyke did not remember Obama.. 7 hours difference in their birth...

According to the 1960 Hawaii Census, the "Blacks" made up only 0.7 percent of the population.

In the hospital, Obama Sr (and Jr) would have "stuck out like a sore thumb". And yet, no one (staff or patient) remembers seeing them at the hospital ...

[Typical_Whitey]

I would like to see #639 and #640 and see how they line up if they are i.e, 6th AUG and 8th AUG, It is almost exactly proof that his certificate was filed long after he was born which can only mean he was not physically born on Oahu which means that we have a Constitutional Crisis on our hands and all of that other Stimulus, Health Care, Global whatever and the 10,000 other things he says he got going on need to cease and desist until we have a legitimate President.