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Macworld.Ars: First impressions of unibody 17" MacBook Pro
Ars Technica ^ | 01/06/2008

Posted on 01/06/2009 8:37:04 PM PST by Swordmaker

We stormed the Macworld Expo '09 showroom floor immediately after the Philnote to get our hands on the only tangible product Apple announced today: the new unibody 17-inch MacBook Pro. Clearly, the built-in, longer-lasting battery technology that Apple designed for its largest notebook was the cause of its delayed release, as the rest of the notebook line was revamped in October. The new unibody structure and aesthetic that the 15-inch MacBook Pro and 13-inch MacBook gained a few months ago looks great on the 17-inch, so check out a few photos and some brief first impressions.


Strangely, the 17-inch MacBook Pro almost didn't look like it was 17 inches, so we tossed an iPhone in for size comparison. Perhaps the size of the Macworld Expo hall was dwarfing the machine a bit, but the trademark wider speaker grills are still the best indicator that this is indeed Apple's largest notebook.


A side view of the 17-inch MacBook Pro, which maintains one more USB port than its smaller brethren and completes Apple's abolishment of FireWire 400 from its portables.



The 17-inch's display is thinner than ever now that the machine lost .02" in thickness overall.



The 17-inch MacBook Pro's right side almost seems barren, sporting nothing but a DVD/CD slot and a notebook locking connector.


Update: The bottom of the 17-inch MacBook Pro, sans the removable panel on the 13-inch MacBook and 15-inch MacBook Pro.


A comparison next to the latest 15-inch MacBook Pro, on the right, helps to put the 17-inch model into context.


One final comparison that gets down low to the bodies of both machines.

After playing with the 17-inch MacBook Pro for a couple of minutes, it pretty much feels like one would expect. Apple's new unibody construction makes the machine feel even sturdier, and its slight loss in weight is an appreciated, though hardly noticeable, bonus. Look for a much more thorough Ars review with performance tests in the near future.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: apple; graphicswarning; ilovebillgates; iwanthim; iwanthimbad; microsoftfanboys
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To: Sunnyflorida

The MBA and the laptop in question have different case designs. Perhaps you should listen to Rush - he is a rather big believer in not making assumption.


21 posted on 01/07/2009 3:58:00 PM PST by DevNet (!dimensio || !solitron)
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To: BlazingArizona

Re: adding RAM

The access to the RAM slots is usually through the keyboard—it hinges up.


22 posted on 01/07/2009 4:47:09 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker

Why does Apples highest end notebook only have a 1 year warranty?

I would think that such a premium high reliability product would have at least a 3 year warranty.


23 posted on 01/07/2009 5:57:41 PM PST by DevNet (!dimensio || !solitron)
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To: DevNet

Re: warranty

AppleCare is available which extends the warranty to three years.


24 posted on 01/07/2009 6:25:55 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker

Yes.

For 349 dollars - that doesn’t exactly show Apples confidence in what they tell everyone is a high end / reliable / premium product.

That is a lot of money for a two year added warranty.


25 posted on 01/07/2009 6:46:03 PM PST by DevNet (WhatÂ’s past is prologue)
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To: Sunnyflorida

Should I tell the graphics artist down the hall the he was just imaging having trouble editing those 1gb+ PSD files on his mac? But how do I explain to him why his problem went away when he went from 4gb to 8gb?

See not everyone’s working set is the same - some need more memory than others. I have some apps that will use as much memory as you give them. If they could the would use hundreds of gigabytes.


26 posted on 01/07/2009 7:19:15 PM PST by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: DevNet

Price the Dell high end complete warranty. It’s about the same.


27 posted on 01/07/2009 7:21:01 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: DevNet

Price the Dell high end complete warranty. It’s about the same.


28 posted on 01/07/2009 7:21:07 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker

I have had innumerable people tell me how much more reliable the apple hardware is - how it rarely breaks - how unreliable dell equipment is.

Was I told incorrectly? If apples equipment was as reliable as they imply they would have a much greater out of the box warranty - plus it would be a great selling point.


29 posted on 01/07/2009 7:23:11 PM PST by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: DevNet

I paid way too much for a 17” Titanium Powerbook and a 1st Gen iPod several years ago. Both were inoperable in about 18 months (battery issue on the iPod and battery/screen-hinge connectivity on the Powerbook). Apple told me to “pound sand.” Haven’t bought a product from them since.


30 posted on 01/07/2009 7:28:38 PM PST by Per-Ling
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To: Per-Ling

You can get a self-install battery for an iPod for under $30...


31 posted on 01/07/2009 8:31:47 PM PST by IncPen (Pitchforks and torches.)
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To: Sunnyflorida

Watch your mouth.


32 posted on 01/07/2009 8:35:10 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Sunnyflorida
Why do the Mac threads attract so many jerks?

You really don't have any room to talk.

33 posted on 01/07/2009 8:37:04 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator

Me! Are you dense. Do you read these threads? How about the one with people claiming Jobs had AIDs or declaring Apple customers libs or homos. You are wrong this time.


34 posted on 01/07/2009 8:43:55 PM PST by Sunnyflorida (Unless you are nice and thoughtful you will be ignored. Write in Thomas Sowell.)
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To: DevNet
I have had innumerable people tell me how much more reliable the apple hardware is - how it rarely breaks - how unreliable dell equipment is. Was I told incorrectly?

You were not told incorrectly. Those innumerable people can't all be wrong. Apple's hardware is more reliable... because the software is more reliable. It is a fact of life that most service calls for Windows computers has little to do with hardware but a lot to do with software.

But Macs can still break down. When they do, Apple's customer service is unparalleled—especially at the Genius Bar—even for computers that are out of warranty. I took two 9 year old PowerPC G4 Towers that had failed about six months ago to the Genius Bar at the Sacramento Apple Store. These were computers that there was no doubt were out of warranty, using an OS that was far beyond what they were designed for. The guy at the bar worked with them and me for over an hour... and fixed both. When I asked what I owed, he said, "Nothing. No charge."

There are numerous reports of people bringing in dead out-of-warranty Macs and walking out with brand new, up-to-date replacements at no charge... with new warranties.

On the other hand, last week one of my clients' G5 iMac suddenly went blank. I opened it up and diagnosed a fried logic board. I took her along with her computer to the new Modesto Apple Store's Genius Bar. They confirmed my diagnosis... and offered to fix it for $987. She bought a new, faster, stronger, better, Intel iMac instead... for $1199. She is extremely happy.

35 posted on 01/07/2009 10:43:23 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: DevNet
That is a lot of money for a two year added warranty.

True. But Dell's two year extension is $207... for a lesser computer.

36 posted on 01/07/2009 11:20:14 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Sunnyflorida

Not dense at all...watch your mouth and attitide or your facing suspension. Got it?


37 posted on 01/08/2009 5:10:42 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Swordmaker

If the Apple was of higher quality it would have a better warranty - it doesn’t.

Once can determine how much faith a company has in its products by the length of the warranty.


38 posted on 01/08/2009 7:42:54 AM PST by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: DevNet
If the Apple was of higher quality it would have a better warranty - it doesn’t. Once can determine how much faith a company has in its products by the length of the warranty.

Bull Puckey. How many computer companies provide FREE customer support at point of sales 10 years after they sold the product? Offering free extended warranties is required as an inducement to the potential customer when you can't sell your product.

39 posted on 01/08/2009 8:33:46 AM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker

“Offering free extended warranties is required as an inducement to the potential customer when you can’t sell your product.”

I notice how you added the word extended in there - I am talking about the standard warranty. For reliable produces it should be at least 3 years.

Or are you saying that Apple really isn’t a premium product - that their laptops really aren’t any more reliable then the other laptops made by the 3rd party contractors who make all of apples computers?


40 posted on 01/08/2009 8:36:00 AM PST by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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