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Hope for Earth: Planet Survives Star's Death Throes
space.com ^ | 09/12/07 | Ker Than

Posted on 09/12/2007 7:05:46 PM PDT by KevinDavis

Astronomers have spotted a planet that has survived the massive ballooning of its parent star, providing the first optimistic evidence for the long-term survival of Earth.

The discovery, detailed in the Sept. 13 issue of the journal Nature, could motivate other scientists to look for similar red giant survivors. That in turn could eventually lead to an answer to one of astronomers' favorite questions: Will Earth survive the sun's swelling when it goes through its own red giant phase in a few billion years?

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KEYWORDS: catastrophism; space; xplanets
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1 posted on 09/12/2007 7:05:48 PM PDT by KevinDavis
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2 posted on 09/12/2007 7:06:23 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Mitt Romney 08)
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To: KevinDavis
Astronomers have spotted a planet that has survived the massive ballooning of its parent star, providing the first optimistic evidence for the long-term survival of Earth.

It doesn't matter. We're all dying from human induced global warming anyway. ;O)
3 posted on 09/12/2007 7:15:26 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: KevinDavis

And even a definitive answer would do what for us?


4 posted on 09/12/2007 7:19:44 PM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: KevinDavis
Astronomers have spotted a planet that has survived the massive ballooning of its parent star, providing the first optimistic evidence for the long-term survival of Earth.

Oh, for cryin' out loud, the sun is projected to go red giant in what, 4 billion years? How friggin' dead am I gonna be by then? What an utterly STOOPID premise for an article.

5 posted on 09/12/2007 7:22:09 PM PDT by dirtboy (Chertoff needs to move out of DC, not move to Justice.)
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To: KevinDavis

That is indeed great news. Our planet might survive a fireball that would turn it into a cinder, but survive. I’m not sure I want to wait around for it.


6 posted on 09/12/2007 7:23:12 PM PDT by Lokibob (Some people are like slinkys. Useless, but if you throw them down the stairs, you smile.)
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To: dirtboy

On the other hand this is a big relief to the billions of Hindus and Buddhists who expect to still be around at the time!


7 posted on 09/12/2007 7:23:59 PM PDT by muawiyah
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Don’t you just love scientists! My driving of an SUV will destroy the planet, but our star swelling 100 times bigger will not.

And they wonder why they’ve been laughed at and had spitballs thrown at them throughout their lives... ;-)

8 posted on 09/12/2007 8:57:12 PM PDT by mwilli20
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To: KevinDavis
Nonsense. The Sun will gradually warm up as it uses up the hydrogen at its core, and the Earth's oceans will boil away and evaporate, long, long, long before the Sun ever becomes a nova.

Because of this, life on Earth probably only has another billion years or so, tops.

It's true that a molten rock may remain where the Earth once was immediately after the Sun goes through its red giant phase, but that rock will be totally unsuitable for any conceivable kind of life.

Or so I've heard.

9 posted on 09/12/2007 9:02:27 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: KevinDavis

Sun lifecycle:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Sun_Life.png

The Once and Future Sun:

http://www.astronomy.ohio-state.edu/~pogge/Lectures/vistas97.html


10 posted on 09/12/2007 9:46:05 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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Even if humans were to make it to that point in time, eventually there will be an end. The Big Rip, where the universe will rip apart everything even tiny atoms.
11 posted on 09/13/2007 3:47:50 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Move On should move on. Move on back to Russia.)
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To: LibWhacker

Does the sun have enough mass to go nova?


12 posted on 09/13/2007 6:16:20 AM PDT by wastedyears (George Orwell was a clairvoyant.)
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To: wastedyears
Does the sun have enough mass to go nova?

No.
13 posted on 09/13/2007 7:18:17 AM PDT by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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Absolutely it does. It doesn’t have enough to go supernova though.


14 posted on 09/13/2007 10:02:03 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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Scientists have determined that the sun will burn out in roughly 150 million years. This means that the Kansas DOT will have to finish construction on I-35 in the dark...

Mark


15 posted on 09/13/2007 10:21:35 AM PDT by MarkL (Listen, Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government)
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To: wastedyears; Filo
Hmmm... Let me modify that claim a bit. I've been out reading about novas on the web.

When I took introductory astronomy back in the middle ages, they taught us that the Sun would "go nova" someday; i.e., blow off its outer layers and become a red giant. The whole process was referred to as "going nova." To an outside observer it will look like a new star (nova stella) has appeared in the sky.

But now most references on the web say a nova is white dwarf feeding on its red giant companion star. The gas flowing onto the surface of the white dwarf is hot enough that you actually get a massive nuclear explosion, or explosions, on the dwarf's surface. It's so bright it appears in the sky as a new star, but fades quickly until the next batch of gas explodes (Wow, this is something they never taught us).

Obviously, this will not happen to the sun because it doesn't have a companion, much less a white dwarf companion.

Thanks for the question (and the answer, Filo). You prompted me to go out and learn something new today! :-)

16 posted on 09/13/2007 10:46:44 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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"It got a little hot on the planet where I've been,
but I escaped with only a third degree burns."

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17 posted on 09/13/2007 1:47:41 PM PDT by OESY
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Thanks Kevin!
 
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18 posted on 09/14/2007 7:51:51 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, September 12, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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19 posted on 09/14/2007 7:52:35 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, September 12, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Yes, but will there be time to finish the Big Dig in Boston?

Whether the earth ends in 150 million years, 1 billion, or 4 billion it won’t matter to us as the average life span of a species is only about 5 million years.


20 posted on 09/14/2007 5:49:48 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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