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“I wish every single person in the West would listen to Putin’s speech”… “as a professional translator let me summarize”…
Threadreader ^ | Sep 30 2022 | Konstantin Kisin

Posted on 10/01/2022 1:40:18 PM PDT by Antioch

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To: Antioch

This thread proves one thing to me..

Putin is orchestrating the Civil War in America. Starting with free republic.

And it’s working.


81 posted on 10/01/2022 2:53:32 PM PDT by Celerity
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To: Antioch

Bkmk


82 posted on 10/01/2022 2:55:16 PM PDT by sauropod (Unbelief has nothing to say. Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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To: Antioch

He’s not entirely wrong. But he could have said all this and provided a strong bulwark within Russia, and not invaded a sovereign country. So, even though he’s partly right, he’s blown the truth out the window with his invasion.
And yes FR repeats, it’s possible to despise Russia/Putin AND Ukraine/Zelenski.


83 posted on 10/01/2022 2:56:49 PM PDT by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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To: Celerity

Good point. Another thing the American Left and Putin have in common: wanting a divided west. Because it weakens us.


84 posted on 10/01/2022 2:57:11 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90
Where’s my “cauldron” map from six months ago? Should I dig it up? Russia is collapsing, again, and there is nothing anybody can do about it. But I understand the grieving process is difficult and you have my sympathy.

I already posted the map above, post #28

Yeah, Russia's collapsing.

Go cry with Biden and enjoy your $7/lb butter.

85 posted on 10/01/2022 2:57:38 PM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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Putin talking about sovereignty is rather hilarious considering that sovereignty is exactly what he is trying to strip from Ukraine.

And the sovereignty of countries that do not have their own source of oil and gas is what he is targeting when he seeks to block the pipelines of other countries. It gives his own country a monopoly, and thus an extortionists’ say in the target’s foreign policy.


86 posted on 10/01/2022 2:58:07 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

That’s a very simplistic view of the international order. Too simplistic.

Personally, I don’t know all the facts, but I do know that as a proud US citizen that loves the Constitution, I can find very little of what he said to disagree with.


87 posted on 10/01/2022 2:59:14 PM PDT by Qui is (First, never apologize to the enemy, and second, never forget that Biden spews and Harris swallows. )
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To: SamAdams76

He’ll peel off a few lefties and sow doubts in many more by appealing to Russia’s Soviet past with its anti-colonialism and that sort of thing. He is very shrewd to tug at leftist heartstrings by reminding them of the USSR and making that connection. He made sure to include stuff in his speech that will resonate with both Western conservatives and leftists. The guy has serious cunning, that’s for sure. I’m always torn over how much of what he does is mind games and how much is sincere.


88 posted on 10/01/2022 2:59:37 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: icclearly

The Russians know the western feudal elite won’t leave them alone even if they became a hermit kingdom. Not democratic enough, not homo friendly enough, too resource rich, too big, too etc etc. One day in the future it’s entirely possible that persecuted Christians in the west will seek sanctuary in Russia.


89 posted on 10/01/2022 3:03:30 PM PDT by Long Jon No Silver (Rrily)
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To: Antioch

Seems to me your reading far more into Putin’s speech than what he said. I claim bs on your being a “Professional translator”.

But here’s a response...
We couldn’t care less about Russia as long as Russia doesn’t go invading other countries without just cause. In fact, we would have been just fine being trading partners with Russia, as would have Europe.

But then Russia had to go and seize part of Georgia and then Crimea.


90 posted on 10/01/2022 3:04:33 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Antioch

“They’re crazy. I want to speak to all Russian citizens, do we want to replace mum and dad with parent 1 and 2? They invented genders and claim you can “transition”. Do we want this for our children?“

Well, Putin has a point.


91 posted on 10/01/2022 3:06:16 PM PDT by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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To: Antioch
"They do not want us to be free, they want Russians to be a mob of soulless slaves."

And this differs from the Revolutionary Communist Democrat Party how, exactly?

92 posted on 10/01/2022 3:07:12 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“I used to be nothing but a Deplorable Clinger, but I've been promoted to Brigadier Ultra-MAGA”)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Bump


93 posted on 10/01/2022 3:08:38 PM PDT by AAABEST ( NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: Antioch

“They used nuclear weapons, creating a precedent.”

Well, yes. When we bombed Japan, my father had just finished training for the invasion of Japan. He died in March of 2021, at 94. He told me many times he was afraid of invading Japan, because of their suicidal attitudes and their blind loyalty and brutality. (he was also sick of war)

Fat Man and Little Boy ended the war.


94 posted on 10/01/2022 3:10:21 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: gundog

Who forgave the loans that these young college-educated Marxist-leninist types made?Biden supports Putin’s agents in our country and supports the Chinese agents in our universities
Let’s go Brandon.
The current administration IS America and if you don’t believe it you may just get an early morning FBI visit.


95 posted on 10/01/2022 3:13:18 PM PDT by 353FMG (Secretly practicing my Putin swagger..)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Isn’t that also true of us here? How many overseas military bases do we have? How many overseas military bases does Russia have? Does Russia have bases in any NATO countries? Do we have bases in former Warsaw Pact countries?

Why are we doing stuff in Ukraine with biolabs? Why do we support Nazi-aligned military groups who have been shelling Russian areas for 8 years?


96 posted on 10/01/2022 3:13:39 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Cv19 vaccines are Phase 2 of the CCP bioweapon)
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To: DannyTN

According to Russia, weapons labs and Nazis attacking Russian civilians justified their invasion.

According to Bush, chem/bio weapons justified the invasion of Iraq.

Seems to me Russia has a much better case for their invasion, that we had for Iraq. And the Iraq invasion achieved nothing except a bunch of dead ppl and trillions of dollars of debt.


97 posted on 10/01/2022 3:18:09 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Cv19 vaccines are Phase 2 of the CCP bioweapon)
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To: Cathi

🤮


98 posted on 10/01/2022 3:20:18 PM PDT by CJ Wolf ( what is scarier than offensive words? Not being able to say them. )
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To: TexasFreeper2009
total BS, Russia can be anything it wants to be INSIDE its own borders!

Leave Ukraine and then govern your country how you wish, end of story.

Meanwhile the US is fighting wars in Asia, well beyond its borders. NATO bombed the snot out of Serbia when Serbia did not attack NATO. Putin is right. The west with its rainbow flags, gender confusion, fear of Christianity, reduction of merit to affirmative action is immoral and corrupt. The deep state stole the election from trump who did not want to go along with this crap.

99 posted on 10/01/2022 3:24:16 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Behind enemy lines)
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To: Texas Fossil

My father was in disembarked at Kure as a volunteer with the BCOF in Feb 1946. He was already a seasoned soldier, having fought in New Guinea and Borneo. The destruction he witnessed at Hiroshima left a mark on him.He understood the Bombs ended the war, but none the less was not a fan of it. He never liked the fact such destructive weapons were given cutsie names.


100 posted on 10/01/2022 3:26:50 PM PDT by Long Jon No Silver (Rrily)
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