Posted on 05/14/2021 3:54:03 PM PDT by Jacquerie
A common remedy among conservatives for the ills of our nation is to just enforce the constitution we have. Elect enough Tea Party conservatives and freedom will be restored. If only the solution was that simple.
From the moment of our independence, the first question as posited by Mercy Warren, was “what government consistent with the Declaration of Independence can be designed by men too proud for monarchy, too poor for nobility, and it is to be feared, too selfish and avaricious for a virtuous republic?”
Republicanism was in our blood. Despite the efforts of the British Crown, all of the states had evolved from quasi-republican colonies. There was no other choice. The challenge was how to secure republican liberty in a society composed of normal, often selfish people.
For Mercy Warren, the answer was found entirely in religion and virtue. To throw the checks of conscience aside, to let avarice and ambition rule, was to doom America to degeneracy and certain failure.
A decade later, the Framers refused to give up on republican government. Being practical, political men, many of whom served in the confederation congress, they rejected Mercy Warren’s reliance on religion and virtue, the “weaker springs of the human character.” In fits and starts and close calls during the summer of 1787, they developed and relied on the structure of their design to channel and direct ambition and avarice so that they would serve rather than destroy free government.
In addition to a horizontal division of power between the three fundamental functions of any government, the Framers’ keystone was the vertical separation of power in which national authority, sparingly doled out in enumerated powers, with the remainder left among the states, was enforced by a senate of the states. They did not rely on what James Madison termed “parchment barriers” alone, such as a Bill of Rights to secure liberty. With power so well divided, so chopped up as never before, they justifiably trusted the natural inclination of men to pursue their interests would prevent the accumulation of tyrannical power. Enforcement of what was to became the 10th Amendment wouldn’t rely on the goodwill of self-interested, popularly derived politicians, nor scotus. Security of state powers relied on the states themselves.
The Framers’ reliance on federalism, of state participation in government, can be seen in the manner the constitution was ratified, in the Article V process, the electoral college and especially the senate, whose members were appointed by and responsible to state legislatures.
Central to understanding why the 17th Amendment must be repealed is recognition that the extensive powers granted to the new government were designed with the assumption that the states would forever participate in it, that no less than thirteen distinct republican legislatures would continually cast watchful eyes over every proceeding of congress, the president and courts. It is why the states agreed to relinquish specific powers in Article I and submit to the Constitution and its pursuant laws as supreme law of the land.
From this gift to mankind in a new system of confederal republican government, one that relied on both the consent of the people and distinct member republics, liberty could prosper.
History, both ancient and our own since 1913 illustrate the instability of democratic republics. Our 103 year experiment in representative democracy is a failure. For practical purposes, Article I § 1, which established the American Republic has been repealed. Legislative power is in the hands of the executive and scotus. Unless this concentration of power is reversed, we are doomed to accelerating anarchy, then by calls for a strongman to “do something,” followed by bare-knuckled tyrannical force.
To restore the republican freedom we long had under a federal Constitution, the 17th Amendment must go. And since reform will not emerge from those who profit so well from our corrupt system, there is no alternative to an Article V state amendment convention.
You seem to fancy yourself a pre-Constitution revolutionary of some kind.
Go and throw something into a harbor, and get your rocks off that way; instead of threatening to endanger your fellow citizens, disrupt entire neighborhoods, put law-enforcement, fire departments, EMS etc., into danger.
(I must have missed the post where you disclosed yourself as a commander-in-chief or head of state with the authority to wage war...)
If everyone was like you, we’d all stand in line like good boys and girls while the Marxist Left leads us to Political Correctness Brainwashing School.
In many ways, we ARE in pre-Constitutional America facing an enemy just as, if not more, formidable as England with the Constitution having been eviscerated lo these many years.
Get your head out of the sand and realize we are at war with a formidable enemy who wants to destroy America, our freedoms, and our well being. Than, as now, there were “Loyalists” (those that didn’t want to rock the boat like you) and Patriots (those that spoke out and were reedy to fight for their freedoms, like myself and many other freedom-loving Patriots).
The difference between you and those like you, and me and those like me, is the perception of the preciousness of freedom. You, sir, seem to be willing to relinquish freedom if the price is too high. “Peace at any price”, and I am not. “Give me liberty or give me death.”
I guess it’s easier for you Ma’am, to blow up buildings than to do the much more difficult work of demanding that our elected officials actually follow the law.
There you go again, missing the point so badly either intentionally or ignorantly or both.
“Blowing up the buildings” is mostly a symbol of the absolute necessity of dismantling the 80%+ unconstitutional and totalitarian government.
However, once the occupants have been sent home packing, another absolute necessity if we are to Recover our Free Constitutional Republic, then, yes, I would have no problem blowing up those monuments of tyranny and totalitarianism, not unlike the way the Nazi Reichstag and other buildings were blown up after WWII.
But I’m talking to a Loyalist who seems willing to relinquish his freedom if the price is too high. Rots a Ruck there.
If you’ve already decided that it’s ‘ok’ as long as you ‘warn’ them, I think you’ve made it much more than merely ‘symbolical’.
You want to destroy buildings and disrupt government and society. You don’t care much about unintended consequences - if, in your nutsy worldview, they actually are ‘unintended’ in the first place.
TEAR 'EM DOWN!!
RESTORE LIBERTY TO OUR LAND!!!!
"See, I have this day set you over the nations and over the kingdoms, to root out and to pull down, to destroy and to throw down, to build and to plant."
Whatever.
THROW ‘EM OUT!!
and
TEAR ‘EM DOWN!!
Keep yelling. Perhaps someone else will respond.
Patriots will always respond to GIVE ME LIBERY OR GIVE ME DEATH. Obviously you are no one of them.
Sometimes ‘patriots’ use caution and their heads - instead of going off like egomaniacal, propagandistic firebrands.
I had hope back a few years ago when I met with my state representative and he became very involved with the cos effort. I was pleased with the speed that the Florida legislature took on the issue of an article V convention. But the effort among the states seems to be traveling at the pace of a turtle.
Imagine if President Trump promoted a COS!
The Chicoms/rats/media/Deep State would freak out at the flanking movement around their power.
Why am I wasting my time with you? You have nothing to offer, nothing affirmative at all.
At best you’re an FR sniper who hides and shoots and hides again. At worst you’re a Leftist troll planted here at FR. Either way, you’re a complete and total waste of time.
Go away or else you’ll end up on my No-Fly Zone List from which few return.
Good Bye and Rots a Ruck.
If you want me to ‘affirm’ blowing up buildings, you’re wasting your time.
I’m glad to say goodbye to you, too.
Blowing up tyranny, and fighting the good fight of faith and freedom, are two sides of the same coin.
Goodbye and don’t never come back ay least until you’ve figured out what you have to offer in good faith substantively and affirmatively.
On second thought, since you continue to deliberately misrepresent what I’m saying here like the Lying Leftist Media does with Trump, (if you’re not a Leftist plant here, you’re doing everything a Leftist plant would do), you’ve made it to my No Fly Zone List. In the future, I will do whatever I can not to respond to you. I’ve noticed that many who make it to my No Fly Zone List disappear from FR soon after.
Go back to your Leftist buddies where you belong.
OK. You have fun, too.
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