In before the concern trolls become very concerned! Just to ease their fears a little bit the COS bill is written to nullify the call if it goes beyond its bounds. Hard to enforce something which self destroys if tinkered with .
Posted on 05/14/2021 3:54:03 PM PDT by Jacquerie
A common remedy among conservatives for the ills of our nation is to just enforce the constitution we have. Elect enough Tea Party conservatives and freedom will be restored. If only the solution was that simple.
From the moment of our independence, the first question as posited by Mercy Warren, was “what government consistent with the Declaration of Independence can be designed by men too proud for monarchy, too poor for nobility, and it is to be feared, too selfish and avaricious for a virtuous republic?”
Republicanism was in our blood. Despite the efforts of the British Crown, all of the states had evolved from quasi-republican colonies. There was no other choice. The challenge was how to secure republican liberty in a society composed of normal, often selfish people.
For Mercy Warren, the answer was found entirely in religion and virtue. To throw the checks of conscience aside, to let avarice and ambition rule, was to doom America to degeneracy and certain failure.
A decade later, the Framers refused to give up on republican government. Being practical, political men, many of whom served in the confederation congress, they rejected Mercy Warren’s reliance on religion and virtue, the “weaker springs of the human character.” In fits and starts and close calls during the summer of 1787, they developed and relied on the structure of their design to channel and direct ambition and avarice so that they would serve rather than destroy free government.
In addition to a horizontal division of power between the three fundamental functions of any government, the Framers’ keystone was the vertical separation of power in which national authority, sparingly doled out in enumerated powers, with the remainder left among the states, was enforced by a senate of the states. They did not rely on what James Madison termed “parchment barriers” alone, such as a Bill of Rights to secure liberty. With power so well divided, so chopped up as never before, they justifiably trusted the natural inclination of men to pursue their interests would prevent the accumulation of tyrannical power. Enforcement of what was to became the 10th Amendment wouldn’t rely on the goodwill of self-interested, popularly derived politicians, nor scotus. Security of state powers relied on the states themselves.
The Framers’ reliance on federalism, of state participation in government, can be seen in the manner the constitution was ratified, in the Article V process, the electoral college and especially the senate, whose members were appointed by and responsible to state legislatures.
Central to understanding why the 17th Amendment must be repealed is recognition that the extensive powers granted to the new government were designed with the assumption that the states would forever participate in it, that no less than thirteen distinct republican legislatures would continually cast watchful eyes over every proceeding of congress, the president and courts. It is why the states agreed to relinquish specific powers in Article I and submit to the Constitution and its pursuant laws as supreme law of the land.
From this gift to mankind in a new system of confederal republican government, one that relied on both the consent of the people and distinct member republics, liberty could prosper.
History, both ancient and our own since 1913 illustrate the instability of democratic republics. Our 103 year experiment in representative democracy is a failure. For practical purposes, Article I § 1, which established the American Republic has been repealed. Legislative power is in the hands of the executive and scotus. Unless this concentration of power is reversed, we are doomed to accelerating anarchy, then by calls for a strongman to “do something,” followed by bare-knuckled tyrannical force.
To restore the republican freedom we long had under a federal Constitution, the 17th Amendment must go. And since reform will not emerge from those who profit so well from our corrupt system, there is no alternative to an Article V state amendment convention.
Article V ping!
If we retake the majority in ‘22 we have to go after them. What does it mean? Pass all of our bills and let Bite-me veto them. The rats get nothing not even a hearing on their issues. +
NOOO to Article V convention. It’s a TRAP.
How do you keep an Article V process from being taken out of your control - especially in today’s ‘atmosphere’ and environment?
We already have all sorts of ‘RULES’ that politicians and political hacks have been breaking with impunity - and nobody appears to be willing to remedy that.
See those all those cranes and buildings in D.C.? What’s being built is more and more tyranny against our Constitution and its protection of our freedoms.
Stop that and then blow up most of the existing buildings and send home hundreds of thousands of officials, bureaucrats, and government workers, and we have a chance at restoring our Free Constitutional Republic.
It will take the Hand of the Divine Providence of God Almighty to do that - the same Hand that miraculously birthed our nation will need to be the same Hand that miraculously restores our nation.
In before the concern trolls become very concerned! Just to ease their fears a little bit the COS bill is written to nullify the call if it goes beyond its bounds. Hard to enforce something which self destroys if tinkered with .
The ‘hands’ - and brains! - that birthed our nation were human ones. They may have been inspired by certain religious ideals, but they did it through their mental and physical labor, as God put us here to do, and from which effort He expected us to learn.
(And do you care about how many people you kill or whose lives you disrupt, when you ‘blow up’ buildings?)
Well I thought I could beat them to the post but the FUD's got in too quick! They act as if some foreign entity sneaked in this clause. Since it was there before the Civil War why was it not used then? The answer is they tried but the effort was too little too late. Lots of needless destruction and bloodshed resulted. We blow it again this time and it's going to get much worse.
State legislatures, composed of perhaps hundreds of legislators, will draw up limited commissions for their delegates to a COS.
Big difference.
The relationship between the state legislatures and their delegates is that of principal to agent. Like that between you and your attorney.
Actions by agents in violation of directions from their principal are null and void and are grounds for disbarment or/and felony conviction.
It is a mistake to equate state delegates with elected politicians.
The Hand of Divine Providence of God Almighty guided our Framers when they provided peaceful means to restore our liberty.
I’m still waiting for an Article V opponent to respond to the substance of what I wrote in the post.
I would not put them into the low information category , more like TL;DR (Too Long , Didn't Read).
What I find amusing is the left is also scared out of their wits by the COS. The two sides can't both be right.
If Conventions of States were advantageous to the Left, then FDR, LBJ, BJ Clinton, Bammy and China Joe would have called for them.
Not only that but in some states once the left came to power they rescinded the call!
And the ‘state delegates’ are entirely reliable - and had no power at all to contest the recently past fraudulent election?
Tell me some names, and show me where and in what force they spoke up. I might listen to you, then.
<>And the ‘state delegates’ are entirely reliable - and had no power at all to contest the recently past fraudulent election?<>
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I don’t think the Revolutionary War was very peaceful. The rag-tag colonists should have lost to the greatest military power in the world. Despite our best efforts, only the Divine Providence of God Almighty upom whom our Founders relied, made a way for our miraculous victory.
Same is true today if we are to find the restoration of our Free Constitutional Republic against the despicable and very powerful Enemy Within - the Delusional Lying Left.
Obviously those building would be vacated first as I have outlined.
But you don’t get that the 80%+ unconstitutional portion of the federal government is the greatest threat to our Freedoms, our Lives, and our Sacred Honor and if you did, you would know that the enormity of the task would take God Almighty.
You make a false dichotomy of “either-or”.
The truth is you roll up your sleeves but you do it in faith in God Almighty.
“Unless the Lord guards the city, The watchman stays awake in vain.” Psalm 127:1.
Meek , slow and too late to change the outcome, but Arizona has changed it's election law along with a few other states, plus Arizona is doing an audit.
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