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Florida sheriff on 'Stand Your Ground' stance in shooting
Fox ^ | 7/30/2018 | Robert Gearty

Posted on 07/30/2018 2:24:36 PM PDT by Fhios

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To: BBell

Freeper women have more balls than freeper men

Trust me

Freeper boys have gone latte

Get pushed down

Kill em

It’s justified ..you were scared after all... I mean you did get pushed down and. Shucks he’s bigger

This is the logic in this board now

It’s a disgusting snapshot into the state of men today

Soft cowards who hide behind guns


101 posted on 07/30/2018 8:09:53 PM PDT by wardaddy (Hanged not hung.)
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To: spacejunkie2001

He’s been trolling here for a long time... I ignore him.


102 posted on 07/30/2018 9:06:25 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: Fhios
"As a high ranked martial artist and a fan of handguns it’s up to me to decide where the confrontation goes.

That's funny.

103 posted on 07/30/2018 9:53:42 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: DesertRhino

Fortunately I live in Texas, regardless of the talking or bravado on either side if your shove me you are a dead man. the burden of proof here is on the none physical party. I put rounds down range overseas at this point I have zero hesitationn. I saw the video I would have plugged this guy before I even tried to get up, two center of mass and one to the cns on pure reflex alone. In Texas It wouldn’t even make the grand jury. it is irrelevant that I talk shit to your wife you have to be civil or risk your life in Texas it really is that simple.


104 posted on 07/30/2018 10:00:53 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici")
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To: wardaddy
Lots of hangin judges as well. I'm too much of a gray person anymore. I would be awful in a lynch mob, I'd probably end up being lynched as well just to shut me up.

Just call me Gil Carter (Ox-Bow incident)

105 posted on 07/30/2018 10:52:50 PM PDT by BBell ( ¡ que México vuelva a ser genial!)
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To: KrisKrinkle

That’s because you dont know the ABCD of encounters.


106 posted on 07/31/2018 12:36:23 AM PDT by Fhios (♫ Oh Where have you been Jeffy boy Jeffy boy oh where have you been charming Jeffy?)
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To: Fhios

Black dude so drugged up could have killed with that shove.


107 posted on 07/31/2018 3:34:15 AM PDT by maddogtiger
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To: packrat35

Self defense against an attacker with no possibility of retreat ought to do it.


108 posted on 07/31/2018 3:45:48 AM PDT by arthurus (ffff)
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To: Fhios

Additional thoughts

1. The woman was interviewed later and claimed it was her right to park in the parking space. From the information i have seen so far, i do not believe that she or her husband had a valid handicapped permit or were hansicapped. So to me this is wvidence of her belligerent and confrontational attitude which helps explain her belligerent actions in the store video.

2. Pushing a guy down obviously requires that the pusher gets within the victims zone of intimacy. Is there a term for a zone that applies when the emotionis anger, or is this it? Anyway. what would happen if this were in prison? The pusher seems obviously making a statement if bravado as if daring the victim to fight back and taking the foolish gamble that he probably wont.

3. Pushing anyone especially someone older is life threatening because an older person could be handicapped and a fall of any sort could out his life in danger. Imho The pusher should know this. Imho if not then it needs to be taught in school.

4. If the victim were a police officer and i were the ousher, i would expect the cop to pull a gun on me and possibly shoot me (so i would not do it in the first place).

5. If i replay in my mind the shooter being pushed to the ground but then oulling out a cell phone and trying to call 911, i think it would have veen reasonable for the guy to expect to be stomped hard by the 3 potential attackers.

6. I lived in florida briefly in the early 1970s. It seemed much more civil all around back then. Something seems to have changed for the worse in society since then.

7. I have experienced a similar altercation in which i was pushed at a gas station. The pusher was a young white guy. Maybe race was involved in this incident but i do not recall reading positive evidence for that conclusion so far.


109 posted on 07/31/2018 4:47:59 AM PDT by SteveH
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To: SteveH

8. Just because the woman temporarily backs off after getting in the shooters face does not imply she would not ever come back and do worse. To me that was an an act that supported aggression by her “man.” Imho one sees a lot of this type of behavior leading to worse in the numerous mcdonalds beatdown videos online.


110 posted on 07/31/2018 4:55:56 AM PDT by SteveH
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To: Fhios

“That’s because you dont know the ABCD of encounters.”

I know that opponents in a confrontation may each say “As a high ranked martial artist and a fan of handguns it’s up to me to decide where the confrontation goes” and that both won’t be able to implement a decision unless they come to the same decision...to disengage.

I know that even if one or the other is wrong in what he says he may still thwart the decisions of the other.

I also know that sometimes an angel (or a demon) will blow the powder from the pan of your firelock.


111 posted on 07/31/2018 5:00:33 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: JD_UTDallas

“...you have to be civil or risk your life in Texas it really is that simple.”

Which implies the shooter should have been civil which is not obviously the case considering he started a confrontation which attracted the notice of passersby.


112 posted on 07/31/2018 5:13:54 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: Fhios

Never look a bear in the eyes - he will attack you. However you to stare a cat down and it will back off.

Know when to hold ‘em - know when to fold ‘em.


113 posted on 07/31/2018 5:30:30 AM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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To: wardaddy

Seems nore cowardly to me to not use the moat effective means available to make sure you make it home to your family...afterall it works for the cops

Again, getting pushed down is assault with potential deadly consequences

Do you push people around or bully them? If so i can understand your concern about people shooting over what you see as a minor thing


114 posted on 07/31/2018 6:12:43 AM PDT by Manuel OKelley
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To: KrisKrinkle

Two Samurai met one early morning for a pre-arranged duel. They stood upon a bridge at sunrise in their full regalia, squared off to each other then stared at each other until sundown, at which time they disengaged and both went back to their camps. Back at camp the trainee of the Samurai asked “master, why did you not draw your blade?” The Master replied “there was no opening.”

If the shooter and the Husband were masters and in control of themselves there would have been no fight.


115 posted on 07/31/2018 7:20:06 AM PDT by Fhios (♫ Oh Where have you been Jeffy boy Jeffy boy oh where have you been charming Jeffy?)
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To: SteveH

1. Yes she did. Did you also notice the shooter checked the rear license plate? I believe he was checking for a handicapped plate. There are longer videos that show this.

2. I just know about it as personal space, danger zone, encroachment zone. It is described in the wikipedia under the study of Proxemics and in Neuropsychology. It’s very complicated and high level brain processing as all factors are considered (situation awareness) where people can adapt reactions (purposely or not). When somebody enters your personal space the fight or flight decision making kicks in. It’s not just anybody as we allow certain distance for different types of encounters like close friend, wife, lover et al.

In prison, personal space would be adjusted due to constant close proximity with others. Same thing happens in large cities.

The pusher was looking for a fight. It’s clear as the situation evolves. The wife gets out of the car as the Husband gets closer. Was anything said between the Husband and wife? I’ll tell you right now, I do not trust black women. Their mouthy when grouped, they manipulate ‘their man’, and his baser instincts. And for the most part I find they don’t like white people and are the worst as they enter late teens and mellow a tad as they enter adulthood.

3. I understand. I’m old and in poor health. I If I fall or am pushed down, I cannot get up on my own.

Police are different. At the first notion of trouble they will be in your face and trying to control you. Had the pusher pushed a cop he would have been drawn on and 1/2 a clip put into his chest.


116 posted on 07/31/2018 8:08:51 AM PDT by Fhios (♫ Oh Where have you been Jeffy boy Jeffy boy oh where have you been charming Jeffy?)
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To: Fhios
If the shooter and the Husband were masters and in control of themselves there would have been no fight.

“If”.

But there was a fight. And you wrote "As a high ranked martial artist and a fan of handguns it’s up to me to decide where the confrontation goes.”

But it’s not entirely up to you. Your opposition has a say too. In the case of the Samurai, that they each came to the same decision doesn’t mean that they didn’t each have a decision.

And as a…well, you don’t need to know, I’m deciding that this confrontation between you and I ends, even though you may decide to have the last blow.

117 posted on 07/31/2018 11:30:01 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: KrisKrinkle

The shooter can always apologize, run-away, take a beating or unleash Krav Maga hell on him or in this case shoot him since you avoid hand to hand while ccw.


118 posted on 07/31/2018 11:50:44 AM PDT by Fhios (♫ Oh Where have you been Jeffy boy Jeffy boy oh where have you been charming Jeffy?)
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