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If Schneiderman is guilty, why did his victims go back to him “repeatedly” “often” and “frequently”?
wordpress ^ | May 14, 2018 | Dan from Squirrel Hill

Posted on 05/14/2018 5:18:55 PM PDT by grundle

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To: grundle

I would guess the author of the article does not understand the dynamics in a abusive relationship. These were not dates or casual flings. These were not women hoping to gain favors by tolerating sexual advances or outright sexual abuse. A better comparison is to a wife or long time girlfriend who is in an abusive relationship.

Abusers are predators. They are manipulative. They are very, very, good at intimidation and threats. They know how to cajole, promise, and act contrite. They know how to deflect blame and make the victim feel responsible for failing to behave in a way to prevent the abuse. Women stay in these relationships because they are made to believe leaving presents a more serious threat. Or because they are made to believe they are so worthless this is the relationship they deserve. Often both.

Note too that the abuse was not by any means limited to times of sexual intimacy. But attacks when a person is most vulnerable are certainly the most effective.


61 posted on 05/14/2018 7:24:42 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: miss marmelstein

Bless you. And I mean that with my heart.


62 posted on 05/14/2018 7:27:59 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: leaning conservative

“He sounds like a creep & it also sounds consensual. Only the people involved really know.”

_________

Read the New Yorker article, then come back with an informed thought. Please.


63 posted on 05/14/2018 7:31:05 PM PDT by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: A_perfect_lady
Geez, I’ve left men for not helping me with the dishes.

You're tough. That's something not all men think about unless they were taught that at home.

64 posted on 05/14/2018 7:31:08 PM PDT by BipolarBob (All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts pathological personalities.)
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To: grundle

He is still a deviant sick scumbag.

But yeah, these women didn’t have to keep going.


65 posted on 05/14/2018 7:43:00 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: wardaddy

First true answer.

Though I would add:

Especially liberal women.

These were all liberal elite females who admitted to not wanting to harm “the cause”. Since this lad was such an important part of that movement.

No doubt, as he would have told them numerous times, he expected an even more prominent role under a Clinton Whitehouse.

Trump winning was probably the beginning of his downfall.


66 posted on 05/14/2018 7:46:08 PM PDT by Eurotwit (FRexit? No. AdiEU. - Loud Mime)
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To: firebrand

Thanks!


67 posted on 05/14/2018 7:47:09 PM PDT by grundle
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To: A_perfect_lady
Well, I’m not mad, because I wondered the same thing. No man would ever get a second chance to do that crap to me. Geez, I’ve left men for not helping me with the dishes. God help anyone who hit me. I have a dark side.

Good for you!

68 posted on 05/14/2018 7:49:29 PM PDT by grundle
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To: MrEdd
Why does anyone stay in an abusive marriage or exploitative job?

Those can be due to financial need. But these women weren't married to or employed by him. There was no financial dependency.

69 posted on 05/14/2018 7:51:04 PM PDT by grundle
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To: rbg81

Thank you for the link.


70 posted on 05/14/2018 7:53:12 PM PDT by grundle
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To everyone who replied to me:

There is a huge difference between role playing and beating your wife in the time-honored traditional way.

I am totally against all this “me too” stuff. I was a feminist before these women were even born. This is not the way you fight this stuff, by ruining men’s careers and in this case accusing him of things that aren’t even true because you don’t know the difference.

Go to visit them personally. And then work on the problem through social means. Don’t succumb to revenge. Their soul is more important than the public exposure your wonderful body might get in the process of public accusation and more important than revenge, which is never ours to take.

There is plenty of stuff to accuse Schneiderman of that is actually true. Get off the PC pussy hat bandwagon.


71 posted on 05/14/2018 7:59:25 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: Ken H

“They are flat-out helping democrat thugs do their dirty work.”

Yes.


72 posted on 05/14/2018 7:59:35 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: CaptainK

Thanks for telling me about those two specific incidents.


73 posted on 05/14/2018 8:05:41 PM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

Ask Bill Cosby and Bill Clinton.


74 posted on 05/14/2018 8:05:46 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: firebrand

"Relax. They've got plenty of useful idiots who will help take the spot light off of us."

75 posted on 05/14/2018 8:13:25 PM PDT by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: grundle

I think a better question is: If he was innocent, why did he immediately resign?


76 posted on 05/14/2018 8:27:50 PM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: grundle

Eddie Murphy gives a lesson in how a woman should handle a man who hits her (language warning):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ju17sw_kgU


77 posted on 05/14/2018 8:41:56 PM PDT by CaptainK ("no collusion, no obstruction, he's a leaker")
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To: grundle

Those are not good questions. They are taunting questions and work against further exposure of the NY dem/media axis.

They also work against Trump, as I and others have explained on this thread.


78 posted on 05/14/2018 8:42:47 PM PDT by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: grundle

Stockholm syndrome?


79 posted on 05/14/2018 8:42:51 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: firebrand

“...and beating your wife in the time-honored traditional way”

Oh pleeeeeze tell me I did not just read that s*it. I read the New Yorker article. This was not role playing. These were not off the wall accusations by bitter exes. These were substantial allegations of repeated abuse along with threats. The abuse was corroborated by physical evidence such as medical reports.

The description of the douchnozzles behavior could have been taken from a textbook on abusive relationships. I don’t care how monied the victims are. I don’t care what their politics are. I care that the POS formerly known as the AG of NY will never be in a position to hurt women again. The fact his fall can’t hurt his political opponents is a nice bonus. But even if he voted straight up Conservative on every issue he still would need to be gone.


80 posted on 05/14/2018 8:45:36 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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