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Some Trump Supporters Renounce Support After Sh*thole Comments
Donald Trump For President Blog ^ | January 14, 2018 | Pinkbell

Posted on 01/14/2018 3:06:25 AM PST by Pinkbell

Here are a sampling:

@realDonaldTrump I bought into the #MakeAmericaGreatAgain campaign. I voted for you. Starting to regret my decision. This country was built by great Americans from #shitholecountries. Please "SHUT THE F**K UP" you are making this country look very bad.

https://twitter.com/TomRuszczyk/status/951792682279604224

President @realDonaldTrump your "shithole countries" comment is unpresidential, and I'm VERY sorry I voted for you! #Haiti #Africa

https://twitter.com/Robbin_Young/status/951642216555978753

This woman, Robin, was definitely Trump supporter and a more prominent one on Twitter at that.

I voted for @realDonaldTrump , and I regret it. He is a racist, foolish old man. Thank you @donlemon for saying these clear facts to our nation. #ImSorry #donlemon #Haiti

https://twitter.com/Ahsiqa/status/951657299973627904

@realDonaldTrump I voted for you and now I find out you are a RASIST. What are doing to our great country.. Please start thinking.

https://twitter.com/wade4365/status/951772391084093440

Well. That is a hilarious lie. Ronald Reagan is. You are a unfortunate joke with racist tendencies. I voted for you, and I'm ashamed of that decision. Especially in light of your recent comments about certain countries.

https://twitter.com/MrlgPerez/status/951648909360812032

Donald Trump Crossed The Line. #FixTrumpIn5Words I am very disappointed, after his #shithole comments. I voted for him, & I do have regret. Too many people are validating him. He's the greatest president ever? How? https://twitter.com/ScottFordTVGuy/status/951823090522251264

All but one of these come from a Twitter account called Trump_regrets. It is an account that retweets Trump supporters or voters who say they regret voting for him. I have monitored it for a while. I don't enjoy reading it, but I think we also need to know what is causing him to lose support. The margin of victory was that of 70,000 votes over three states. I want to see Trump to get a second term and the Republicans to win midterms. We can't afford to lose support.

There are currently over 2,600 Tweets there of people who express regrets for various reasons. That said, I have looked at the profiles, and there are categories:

1. People who were Democrat, establishment Republican, or Never Hillary who now express regret.

2. People who were strong supporters who regret voting for him.

3. People who are supporters who get angry over something and get mad in the moment, but you check their timelines and see they are conservative or just angry about one thing and likely will not vote Democrat.

4. People who never Tweeted about politics, some with few Tweets at all on their timelines, who often Tweet about just music and sports, who randomly one day decide they regret voting for Trump (suspicious).

5. A handful of liars who never voted for Trump in the first place.

I would rather not be posting this, but I am because I see some of these Tweets & have checked the Twitter history of the accounts I Tweeted. These are people who voted for Trump and supported Trump but who have said they don't support him after the comments that he made.

I gave my thoughts on the comments in an earlier blog post. I said I didn't like the word because I think it offends people in those countries and people from those countries who know their countries have problems but who love them nonetheless. I also think it hurts diplomacy with said countries. That said, this is overreaction by the press because of the word used. It's common sense that some countries are better off than others, and it's also common sense that we can't give TPS to everyone or take in everyone from an impoverished country. Lindsey Graham said in 2013 that people come here because their countries are "hellholes" and no outrage then.

Like every Trump "controversy", the media goes off the wall, but I knew it was worse than usual on Twitter and in the media the night the story broke. CNN (who I don't like but am using as an example because they do have some influence) spent all night calling the President a racist. That isn't exactly new, but they were in overdrive, but they were more blatant.

I feel like the White House could have gotten it under better control very quickly if they had released a statement explaining and clarifying his remarks. Instead, we got a statement where they didn't deny the remarks but rather they offered a vague defense/confirmation. By the time morning came around, they had given the media full control of the narrative. Trump didn't Tweet till morning after seeing the firestorm it had caused when he got up. The frustrating thing with Trump's comm's team is that there are things that I feel could be addressed quickly with a statement that aren't, and the media ends up with full control of the narrative without sufficient pushback. All they are doing is allowing things to fester and the media to gain control of the narrative. The reality is, as I type this, it is Sunday morning, and we still don't really know what was said fully in the meeting. I took his comments as referring to TPS countries, but we don't know what countries he was referring to, what the context was, etc. A clear statement explaining it all would have helped greatly - giving the White House a voice in the narrative.

Examples of other times a better comm's strategy could have helped:

Charlottesville - If anyone read Trump's transcript of the press conference at Trump Tower, they would see that right after he said there were "good people on both sides", he said that he wasn't referring to the white supremacists or nazis who are bad people and must be condemned. Yet they never bring it up, and to this day, the vast majority of people don't know he said it because the media cropped it out.

There was controversy regarding Charlottesville after his first speech, and then there was the second prepared statement where his aides obviously didn't put in any mention of Antifa at all. He then brought up Antifa at the infamous press conference (although not in not in name). What I would have recommended if I were in a position to do so (which I'm obviously not) is that after the first statement, have him come out and give a speech decrying racism and then Antifa - citing examples of Antifa from that day and the past. I think with the right wording most of the controversy could be abetted. They didn't do that, but I think after the Trump Tower press conference, they could have put up the full clip of him from the presser, not the edited one, and showed the media is dishonest.

The Widow - That was an easy one. All the White House/Trump had to do was put out a statement explaining that of course La David knew what he signed up for. He knew the risks and dangers, he did it anyway, and that's what makes him a hero. It would have shut up Congresswoman Wilson and ended the whole thing...which dragged on for well over a week.

Obviously we could find others as well.

The media will still hit him, but addressing controversy quickly helps a lot. The AP reported that Trump talked to friends and said the media took his comment out of context. The important thing is to issue a statement or put out a video immediately explaining the context. They will still try to control the narrative, but at least they can't do it without having to include his words.

I've looked at the site Trump Regrets for a while now and have followed the polls. Whenever there is a controversy either from a Tweet or something he said the media goes nuts over, more people say they regret voting for him. Whenever there is a controversy, the polls go down five points on average. Right after tax reform, Trump had managed to climb 7 points over the month in the Gallup. I presume with the book and this comment we will drop again. The unfortunate thing is that these things take away coverage from the good things like the tax bill or the economy. We aren't talking about all the auto jobs, the tax bill (which was not promoted like it should have been judging by the man on the street videos where people don't understand it), the bonuses and wage increases, or the good economy. We are talking about this. I realize not all controversies are avoidable and that the media will attack him anyway, but their usual attacks don't work as well when they don't have controversial statements to attack based on my read of the poll numbers.

In the future, Trump should assume all his meetings with the Democrats/RINOs are going to be leaked straight to the press because they likely will be. Heck, some of his own, underhanded aids leak on him to the press - secretly of course because they want to keep their jobs. The reality is that the media is calling him a racist, and it has cost him some support. Therefore while no one expects Trump to be PC, I think he has to be cautious with how he words things in this area. The sh*thole comments could have been said differently, and it would have helped avoid the controversy. Also, I again reiterate that things would be much better if the White House/Trump put out a full statement or video clarifying controversial remarks immediately. I believe it would help - don't give the media full reign.


TOPICS: Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: fakenews; hellholes; trump
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To: miss marmelstein

You’re lying. You are point blank lying, and this is not the first time you have, without proof, accused me of this. Provide your proof.


141 posted on 01/14/2018 3:25:43 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: Kazan

No, but we need more than conservatives to win an election. We can’t win with just conservatives. It’s those middle voters that you have to have enough of. Conservatives are the biggest piece of the pie, of course, but you do need some independents and moderates.


142 posted on 01/14/2018 3:29:04 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: sergeantdave

Or, shit picking.
Sorry couldn’t help myselfm


143 posted on 01/14/2018 3:29:27 PM PST by Leep (The dims better watch it..Trump is CRAZY!!)
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To: sargon

You really think we don’t know that there are snowflake Republicans who are taken aback that a US president used a four letter word in the Oval Office? And that these same snowflakes will not vote for him because of this? Yes, we know that. But some of us are smart enough to know that without examining twitter timelines with all the intensity of a rabbi studying the Talmud. That’s Rummy Chick territory and we all know what happened to HER.


144 posted on 01/14/2018 3:29:52 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: Pinkbell

You prove it here all the time, kiddo.


145 posted on 01/14/2018 3:30:58 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: basalt

Our margins are thin, and a lot of people who may have stayed home will be out in 2020. We can’t afford to lose support.


146 posted on 01/14/2018 3:31:23 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: miss marmelstein

What would these snowflakes think of LBJ, one the most vile people to ever hold the office?


147 posted on 01/14/2018 3:33:08 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: super7man

Ha ha...yours was my favorite post.


148 posted on 01/14/2018 3:34:04 PM PST by Leep (The dims better watch it..Trump is CRAZY!!)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

Rush was running audio of LBJ talking on the phone using the most disgusting language. Not cursing but talking about his private parts. What a pig.


149 posted on 01/14/2018 3:36:19 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: Paradox

Thanks for your post. I predicted getting a lot of fake news comments from supporters. Yes, we support Trump, but not everyone in the world is FR. All I am trying to do is see what is costing him support to ensure we can keep support and win upcoming elections. Period.

What was it that caused your wife to lose her support of Trump?

Whenever there is a controversy over something like this, I see his poll numbers drop around 5 points. It then takes time to build them up, and just when you build them up (went up 7 points last month), then there is another issue like this and down they go again. It prevents us from gaining ground and talking about the good things going on.


150 posted on 01/14/2018 3:40:22 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: miss marmelstein

In other words, you got nothing.


151 posted on 01/14/2018 3:40:44 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: Captain Peter Blood

Ask a 20 something who was LBJ.


152 posted on 01/14/2018 3:42:20 PM PST by Leep (The dims better watch it..Trump is CRAZY!!)
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To: miss marmelstein

There’s another thread here on the same subject and the freeper LS has joined in. He rejects the idea that it is over for the Republican congress at the time - despite the hysteria. He points to huge amounts of money that are filling the coffers of the Republican party and suggesting that those leaving their seats may be doing so because they are going to be tarred with the sex scandal fund operations. That was only two of the reasons he gave for snowflakes to cool their jets. Let’s hope he’s right.


153 posted on 01/14/2018 3:43:38 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: Pinkbell

You out yourself every time you write something. Rummy Chick also accused everyone around her of being a liar. Check out her history.


154 posted on 01/14/2018 3:44:32 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein
That’s Rummy Chick territory and we all know what happened to HER.

No, we don't. What happened to RummyChick?

155 posted on 01/14/2018 3:45:03 PM PST by sargon ("If the President doesn't drain the Swamp, the Swamp will drain the President.")
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To: sargon

Banned.


156 posted on 01/14/2018 3:47:47 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

The whole thing hinges on Sater, once they find out he did have pickles on his burger, they’ll flip him and he will give up Fertash. It all hinges on Fertash flipping on Manofort, oh for the love of pickles.


157 posted on 01/14/2018 3:49:37 PM PST by crosdaddy
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To: sargon

Thank you for your eloquently worded post. The die hard supporters will support him, but there are others who voted for him who are independent/moderate/Dems/establishment Republican who are not as die hard and are more willing to abandon him over some of this stuff. We have to know where he is losing support to win elections.


158 posted on 01/14/2018 3:49:41 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: miss marmelstein

So I have a blog with post after post for Trump, but I do it why? Because I don’t support him? You don’t have examples, but I do:

https://dtforpres.blogspot.com/


159 posted on 01/14/2018 3:53:22 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: miss marmelstein

"Rush was running audio of LBJ talking on the phone using the most disgusting language. Not cursing but talking about his private parts. What a pig."

Using slightly different wording, LBJ said in that clip that he wanted more room in his clothes for his suffering spheroids.   (That recording also shows that in that same call, LBJ also belched like a lumberjack with a bellyful of beer bubbles -- well maybe that's a bit of an exaggeration -- and that belch was recorded for posterity to hear down through the ages.)


       

160 posted on 01/14/2018 4:11:15 PM PST by Songcraft
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