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Bitcoin (USD) Price 19K
Coindesk ^ | 12/16/17

Posted on 12/16/2017 7:11:23 PM PST by Enlightened1

Bitcoin broke 19,000k today for the first time. In the last week alone it's up just shy of $5,000.

Even though the price was impressive what got my attention was that fact that investment banks Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan and even the Bank of America are now getting in crypto currency.

Today I see more and more companies accepting bitcoins than even a year ago. So I through I would throw some money that will not hurt me to lose to see what happens.

For the record, had I invested 2K last January 2017 when bitcoin was $1k I would have had 38K today (this includes my original investment). I almost did but held off. I realized I made the same mistake I did in 2011 when it was $2.97 a coin. I remember when it was breaking 2k a few months ago, then 3k, then 4k, etc... All the naysayers were saying it's done and it will crash. Sort of reminds me of the media with President Trump. Anyway, I just watched it go up and up.

Ethereum (the A.I. that supports Bitcoin) is up $258 in the last week and Litecoin (allows for the fast transactions of bitcoins) is up $180 this past week. At this time I view the 3 as the gold, silver and bronze of crypto/blockchain currency and that may change? There still relatively cheap at this time.

Nevertheless, it's complete insanity at these rates, and I don't see any slow down in the near future. Meaning the next 7 to 11 years if I had to put a estimate to it? Yes it will crash. When I really do not know? In any event, insanity sold.

Remember when Napster began to transform the music industry in the late 1990s? We all watched

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To: Vermont Lt
You may be right - I am no expert on blockchain technology.

But I read this refutation of how Bitcoin was immune to exploitation from the Anti-Christ, and it was a laughable argument:

https://www.newsmax.com/fastfeatures/bible-prophecy-bitcoin-cryptocurrency-mark-of-the-beast/2015/05/05/id/642754/

1. Could be a fad: According to Catholic Online, Bitcoin's volatility, security issues and potential regulatory challenges raise questions as to whether it's just a fad.

It isn't a "fad" - and that has no bearing on whether it could be the stuff of Revelation 13

2. Blockchain: Each Bitcoin contains a "blockchain" that keeps a record of every transaction made using Bitcoin since the system was initiated in 2009. According to Omegashock, "As Bitcoin gains in popularity and usage, each blockchain will increase in size. Right now the blockchain for most Bitcoins is over a gigabyte in size. In the future the Bitcoin blockchain will increase to more than a terabyte. And THAT is just not going to work — especially if you are trying to create a global currency."

The fact that record keeping is essential to the technology makes it more likely that it could be the coming one world currency, not less. And then he argues storage capacity would be a barrier to stop Satan and the Anti-Christ? Lol!

3. High Prices: Alan Greenspan, former Federal Reserve chairman described Bitcoin as "a bubble" that lacks intrinsic value, according to Bloomberg. In December 2013, Greenspan said that Bitcoin's prices as being unsustainably high.

Red herring.

4. People respect dollars more: The change to virtual currency may come at a relatively slow pace because people have built up respect for currencies associated with nations, according to Catholic Online. People respect dollars, mostly because of their track record and relatively stability.

If fiat currency crashes or collapses, crypto-currency would be the logical choice. So again, this argument is a red herring.

5. Bitcoin is a way to beat the Beast: Instead of being the Mark of the Beast, Bitcoin may be a way to beat that mark. According to Christian Money, "One of the key elements of the Mark of the Beast is to be able to prevent those that refuse to take the Mark from buying and selling. Bitcoins are decentralized and prevent any such control."

Again, this guy's argument is laughable. Things that are unregulated in this world can become regulated at the drop of a hat, especially after global government intervention, a crisis - AND the fact that technology can be used to rapidly take over and exploit anything - crypto-currency or no crypto-currency. He probably would have argued 15 years ago that cell phones were the way to beat government spooks who were tapping land line phones and listening in on our conversations.

Here is an argument in favor of Bitcoin being exploited by the Evil One.

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@james-nap/bitcoin-mark-of-the-beast-one-world-currency

It would make sense that a cryptocurrency would be used to usher in a one world currency and the antichrist. Logistically, you could never have the same paper fiat all over the world acting as a one world currency. It would have to be a digital currency. However, the fact that Bitcoin, the block chain, is decentralized, makes one wonder if it could be controlled by the antichrist. The antichrist would have to take over the internet.

The fact that it is on the network, your account can easily be disabled, preventing you from buying and selling, unless you take the mark of the beast. So, whether or not Bitcoin, or some other cryptocurrency ends up being the one world currency remains to be seen, however it is a very high probability that it will be a digital currency, and not paper, or gold or silver. Way back in the Garden of Eden in Genesis Chapter 2 gold is first mentioned:

Genesis 2:11-12 11 The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold; 12 And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.

Based on the principal of first use, God says the gold of that land is good.

He doesn’t say exactly what was good about it, but God assigns the attribute of good to gold. Clearly if God said the gold was good, then Satan would hate and despise gold.

So, in these last days as the antichrist comes to power he will not allow gold, which is true money, the best form of money, to be used as the one world currency. He will create a currency that could never be as valued as gold. Throughout all human history nothing has been able to take the place of gold and silver for money. All fiat eventually loses its value.

Right now, Bitcoin seems to be managing to usurp gold and silvers role, but I wonder what would happen when and if a newer, better cryptocurrency appears, the Bitcoins will lose all their value.

The block chain technology does have something of value to offer, but Bitcoins in and of themselves have nothing. You are taking a big gamble thinking that Bitcoin will always be the leader of the pack. It reminds me of the dot com days. Companies sprang up over night with no real business model.

People invested in all these companies based on some future expectation that they would be rewarded. The vast majority of these companies had no earnings, and didn’t have a way to create earnings. People were very gullible. Most of these companies went belly up. Only a very few survived. It is the same now with cryptocurrencies. Dozens of new cryptocurrencies are springing up every day, but only a very few will survive. You need to make sure you pick the Amazon of the cryptocurrencies and not the pets.com

61 posted on 12/17/2017 3:37:46 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: SkyPilot

Beat the beast with “Bitcoin God”!! ;-) Free money Bitcoin fork coming on Christmas!

https://www.bitcoingod.org


62 posted on 12/17/2017 4:45:17 AM PST by Drago
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To: Enlightened1
You do know you can change bitcoins for dollars? If so, then why not follow the trend and put a stop loss?

Because I'm not smart enough to ride this particular tiger, and I prefer to sleep at night. The problem with bubbles is that they appear liquid up until the point they pop. Most "investors" in Bitcoin have no idea what "market liquidity" means and have never seen a "no bid" market.

All bubbles look "healthy" as long as "greater fools" keep rushing in. That's what fuels parabolic rises. As soon as that well dries up things can get very ugly very quickly as greed turns to fear and "the herd" panics.

To anyone who's made money. Congratulations. I'd advise you to remember Bernard Baruch's famous quote when asked the secret to how he got rich on Wall Street: "I sold too soon".

63 posted on 12/17/2017 5:41:14 AM PST by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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To: Hodar

I traded mini Russell futures for years in a private Mirc room. Our saying was......damn! I coulda bought a Bentley! Lol. But then we’d move on to the next trade.


64 posted on 12/17/2017 6:42:30 AM PST by sheana
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

I paid close to $15 for mine in 2012 when I retired.


65 posted on 12/17/2017 6:45:13 AM PST by sheana
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To: Enlightened1

I own bitcoin, ethereum, litecoin & ripple. I also own several stocks that are related to alt coins.


66 posted on 12/17/2017 2:50:57 PM PST by packrat35 (Pelosi is only on loan to the world from Satan. Hopefully he will soon want his baby killer back)
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To: AustinBill

Haha!


67 posted on 12/17/2017 11:16:54 PM PST by Enlightened1
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To: catnipman

I don’t know anything about investing, so I have no idea if selling was right. It’s nice to hear someone say he did the right thing, though. He’s 28 and has been on his own for many years. I don’t really pay much attention to what he does with his money, lol. I do think this whole bitcoin thing is interesting, though. So, this article caught my eye.


68 posted on 12/18/2017 8:07:59 PM PST by cantfindagoodscreenname (I really hate not knowing what was said in the deleted posts....)
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