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If We Don’t Get Over The First Civil War We Might Have A Second
DB Daily Update ^ | 8.20.2017 | David Blackmon

Posted on 08/20/2017 5:16:19 AM PDT by EyesOfTX

When the news came out that a Civil War reenactment scheduled to take place at the Manassas battlefield in Virginia was being cancelled due to fears over possible violence from leftwing groups like Antifa and Black Lives Matter, I saw a tweet from some guy saying something to the effect that “The Civil War was 152 years ago – why can’t black people just get over it?”

Now, I’m a conservative and I’m pretty sure I had ancestors who fought for the South in the Civil War, since both sides of my family came into this country in the late 18th/early 19th centuries through North Carolina, but I found that tweet quite offensive, and can only imagine how offensive any descendant of slaves might find it. But we see that argument expressed quite often by those who, for whatever reason, feel the need to continue reenacting Civil War battles, flying the stars and bars out in front of their house, and defending the need to keep statues of Jefferson Davis on some university campus or on the grounds of some other public building.

I often wonder if these folks ever consider the other side of that same argument, which is this: “The Civil War ended 152 years ago – why can’t confederacy defenders just get over it?” Seriously, think about it: isn’t 152 years long enough to honor the leaders of what was in fact an armed rebellion against the United States of America? Does it really take more than the six or seven generations that have passed through your families since 1865 to get those resentments out of your blood?

Seriously, take a step back for just a minute and think: Does it really matter to your life if that statue of Jefferson Davis or Robert E. Lee keeps standing out in front of your local courthouse? Have you ever stopped to think about how it must feel to descendants of slaves who surely live in your community to walk by that statue knowing that their tax dollars help pay for its upkeep and public display?

And please, don’t give me that crap about the Civil War not being about preservation of slavery. If you’re one of the people who uses that line, I want to personally challenge you to take a few hours out of your day to read each state’s articles of confederation. If you do that, you will find that all 11 confederate states listed the preservation of slavery as a reason for their decision, and 9 of the 11 states listed it as the first reason. Save that argument for someone else.

Then there’s the argument about “we have to preserve our history!”, and with that one, I’m in full agreement. But keeping a statue of Stonewall Jackson out on the courthouse lawn for 120 years doesn’t really teach anyone anything about history, does it? Not without the provision of context.

Our biggest problem in the current hysteria from the political left over these monument is that we now have two full generations of young people who haven’t been given any real context about any of this in our schools and universities. The teaching of civics and American History was de-emphasized during the ’70s and ’80s, after the radicals of the ’60s came to dominate our education system, in favor of indoctrinating our children with all sorts of leftwing nonsense.

Unless they took American history or civics as an elective, the only thing anyone under 40 or so has ever been taught about Robert E. Lee or Stonewall Jackson is what they get from the news media, and the only message they get from the news media is that they were eeeeevil, which of course is not true. They were just men, products of their time and place, doing what they believed to be their civic duty. But the public lacks that context – all they have in their minds is that simplistic notion they’ve learned from the media.

And so, when they walk past these statues they have an emotional reaction, because they have no understanding whatsoever of who those men really were and the things they did with their lives outside of the few years of the War.

It seems to me that the biggest problem about this entire controversy is that both sides are reacting out of emotion and ignorance. How can we expect to be a unified nation if so many of our citizens know next-to-nothing about what this nation even is?

In all of this controversy, there is an opportunity here for President Trump to take initiative to prove he is a different kind of leader. A good approach to helping the nation heal would be for Republicans and Democrats to work together to remove all Civil War-related statues – Union and Confederacy alike – from taxpayer-funded public places in an organized, systematic way, and establish a series of Civil War museums around the country where they could reside.

Perhaps establish a bi-partisan commission to then develop a curriculum to be taught in guided tours through these museums that would actually educate attendees and provide context for the people depicted in the statues. Seems to me this could become a centerpiece of the President’s Infrastructure proposal.

I know that’s a pipe dream, since the Democrats seem to be hell-bent on continuing to divide this country along racial lines, but I keep hoping they might wake up sometime soon and realize this is a huge loser of an issue for them. Every poll taken on this question proves that to be the case.

Regardless, this would be a constructive approach for President Trump and his Education and Interior Departments to take to the matter. Take the initiative here, Mr. President, and demand the Democrats explain why they refuse to work towards a peaceful solution to such a divisive issue. Provide the public with some context here, both politically and historically.

Just another day in lack of context America.

That is all.


TOPICS: History; Politics
KEYWORDS: civilwar; donaldtrump; mediabias; statues
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To: EyesOfTX

Knock Knock

Who’s there?

Race

Race who?

RaceyatotheTVcamera!


41 posted on 08/20/2017 7:31:44 AM PDT by spintreebob
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To: EyesOfTX

A little bit OT, but there should, instead, be a World War between Those Who Are For Political Correctness And For Leftist Politics against Those Who Are Against Political Correctness And Against Leftist Politics!


42 posted on 08/20/2017 7:55:32 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: EyesOfTX
The left’s crusade against reminders of the war fought to unify all people in our nation seems self defeating.

The war was fought, the outcome was in the slaves’ favor, and for some stupid reason the left wants to fight the war again and erase the historical record of our nation's success.

Our nation's monuments are markers of context, not worship. Slavery and our strength in defeating it can't exist if its record is expunged. Grants victory doesn't exist when Lee's presence is eliminated. Citizens who know their history are not offended by the presence of the reminders of who and what we fought for -- or against.

For the past decade we are simply witnessing ignorant, selfish, misguided punks, paid by wealthy agitators to foment a violent uprising in order to cover up the existence of a shadow government intent on destroying the voice of reason, unity, and law & order using false racism as a vehicle to achieve a global assassination of one of the most truly progressive nations to ever exist.

Every day, with every scheming step, the left forces a very passive, quiet, patient, exceedingly-tolerant, family oriented, self-motivated, hard working, private, freedom-loving, lawful, intelligent populous to divert their attention from their peaceful lives and acknowledge the escalating threat the leftist shenanigans pose to our nation's existence. Only fools would ignore our history in thinking that's a good idea.

43 posted on 08/20/2017 8:15:25 AM PDT by xander (TRUMPing nonsense with common sense)
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To: TalBlack

BINGO the left have no clue they are a tool for China and Russia they will be the first ones to be eliminated.


44 posted on 08/20/2017 9:05:20 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacted the most.)
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To: EyesOfTX

News flash for David Blackmon, we are in the bleeding Kansas phase of CW11 right now.


45 posted on 08/20/2017 9:14:53 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: EyesOfTX

This is a text book example of cucking. Shame on the author for being such a coward. What would his ancestors think?


46 posted on 08/20/2017 10:33:29 AM PDT by WatchungEagle
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To: American in Israel

Appa5enly, you need to c7t your fingerna9ls... ‘-)


47 posted on 08/20/2017 3:01:16 PM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Treat George P. Bush like Santa Ana at San Jacinto!!!)
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To: TXnMA

Lol...


48 posted on 08/20/2017 5:37:19 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel
Thought you'd get a grin out of that...

I recognize the symptom, because I sometimes do the same.

But, more typically, my too-long nails hit th bas of the kyboard and some kys frequently don't get fully dpressd. '-)

Enjoy the remainder of the weekend, FRiend!

49 posted on 08/20/2017 5:48:49 PM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Treat George P. Bush like Santa Ana at San Jacinto!!!)
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To: DaveA37

Firs they got Academia, then they got the News Media, and now they are going after the churches.

Eliminate the Communist theologians, news editors and educators and we are back safe.


50 posted on 08/21/2017 8:44:57 AM PDT by ZULU (DITCH MITCH!!! DUMP RYAN!! DROP DEAD MCCAIN!! KIM FATTY the THIRD = Kim Jung Un)
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To: Lee'sGhost

it was to preserve the union and the question of whether a state had a right to secede. Lincoln early on saw that we could not put the union back together the way it was. Slaves were voting with their feet and became contraband of war. They were being used by the south in support of their war effort. This eventually evolved into the realization that for the union to come back together slavery had to go. It truly became a second American revolution.


51 posted on 08/21/2017 9:00:54 AM PDT by PaulZe
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To: American in Israel

But you cannot escape the simple fact....no slavery....no secession and no secession...no civil war.


52 posted on 08/21/2017 9:02:31 AM PDT by PaulZe
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To: EyesOfTX

That’s not all it is. It’s just one more way to diss America. Today it’s the confederate statues, tomorrow it’ll be Washington, Jefferson, and any other person we might think worthy.

These leftist want to totally destroy the family, the churches, and the ethic behind our government and denigrate the founding fathers as evil.

There will never be a stopping point, and any old excuse will do. We are supposed to have freedom and the 10th amendment in this country, so I really don’t care what other states, counties, and towns do in their jurisdiction.

I know this, the guy who said that we should take down the statues for National Security, because there could be violence is a panderer to violent people, and is blaming inantimate objects for what violent people will do.

The best thing is to send a message that violence won’t be tolerated, and nothing will be done except what voters of the region want to do. Put it to a vote, and the loser can just shut up about it.

I’m sick and tired of a few radicals dictating what the rest of us have to do. Sick and tired of stupid stuff like boys allowed to use girls bathrooms. Sorry, but these people live in an alternate universe, and one that isn’t at all logical.

You know I watched a meeting of the Texas Curriculum group a few years ago. The liberals got very hostile, because their idea to limit USA history to something like 1950 going forward. They said anything earlier was irrelevant.

So that’s what I think, they just want to purge the history and purpose of the USA system from everything so that any of our ideals are irrelevant, and they are going to keep on tearing down and changing stuff, till all we have left is their Marxist Dream Utopia Bizarro world, where down is up, green is red, and good is evil.


53 posted on 08/21/2017 9:22:49 AM PDT by greeneyes
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To: Lee'sGhost
The War Between the States was not STARTED with the intent of freeing the slaves. It simply wasn’t. As Lincoln clearly stated before and during the war, the goal was to preserve the union. This is important because way too many people today believe the north took up some grand crusade to free slaves. They did not. Period. That was a final outcome, to be sure. But Lincoln nor Congress ever expressed a goal of making war with the Confederacy as being to free slaves. Not in the beginning.

OK, so that was the Union motivation and I don't see anything to dispute there. So now what was the South's motivation?

54 posted on 08/21/2017 9:29:12 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Fiji Hill
Why did it take until 2017 for Confederate monuments to suddenly become offensive?

It's been going on for years. Remember all the hoopla about Confederate flags flying and being part of state flags? First it was the flags, and they got rid of those. Now it's statues. When they manage to ban all of those then they'll find something else to be aggrieved about.

55 posted on 08/21/2017 9:36:37 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: EyesOfTX

Good lord

More neocon suck up to dark people blather

Sounds exactly like every freeper on my wall of shame on my homepage

I detest these weak


56 posted on 08/21/2017 9:41:06 AM PDT by wardaddy (Virtue signalers should be shsot...conservative ones racked and hanged then fed to dogs)
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To: EyesOfTX
But we see that argument expressed quite often by those who, for whatever reason, feel the need to continue reenacting Civil War battles...

Has this guy ever been to a restoration village, such as Jamestown or historic museum houses, where people dress up in the clothing of the times?

Should we stop making history "real" for the generations to come?

-PJ

57 posted on 08/21/2017 9:44:30 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: DoodleDawg

To self-govern.


58 posted on 08/23/2017 6:38:19 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost ("Just look at the flowers, Lizzie. Just look at the flowers.")
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To: Lee'sGhost
To self-govern.

That was their goal. The question was what was their motivation?

59 posted on 08/23/2017 6:59:32 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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