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What happens when you use a long gun up close?
Am Shooting Journal ^ | 3/9/2017 | V Veen

Posted on 03/09/2017 10:27:29 AM PST by w1n1

Disarm techniques have been taught to many law enforcement, military and in self defense courses. In the defensive tactics mindset, it is taught you never look for a disarm. If you do, its best to use your own firearm to disarm a bad guy. Disarms itself are accidental if not incidental.

Disarms are not that complicated its a matter of determination and self preservation being the primary motivator. Watch as this security camera footage captures the tables turning on a would-be thief. See the footage here.


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1 posted on 03/09/2017 10:27:29 AM PST by w1n1
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A person’s reaction time is much slower than another’s action time. A gun right in a person’s face can be deflected in less time than the gunman can react. If his grip is loose you can also grab it in time. If not, then there’s a struggle.


2 posted on 03/09/2017 10:35:58 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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I’ve watched quite a few videos that demonstrate that if you are trained, you can successfully disarm a person pointing a weapon at you if you can reach the weapon.

When I watch movies where someone has a weapon trained on someone at a safe distance and the person starts inching towards them, I find myself saying, “if you let him get within reaching distance of your gun, you are dead.


3 posted on 03/09/2017 10:41:14 AM PST by Mr. Douglas (Best. Election. EVER!)
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if you can reach the weapon = if the weapon is within reach


4 posted on 03/09/2017 10:42:35 AM PST by Mr. Douglas (Best. Election. EVER!)
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To: w1n1

Did the perp go to the cops and tell them someone stole my gun?


5 posted on 03/09/2017 10:45:11 AM PST by shotgun
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To: w1n1

I remember a local liquor store that was robbed by a punk with a shotgun. One of the owners came from behind the robber and disarmed him. Big mistake. He should have put a bullet into the back of the robbers head. Robber got away. The robber came back a few days later and killed one of the owner’s relatives.


6 posted on 03/09/2017 10:48:16 AM PST by forgotten man
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To: w1n1

Best “disarm”...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KvO-8IvoCI


7 posted on 03/09/2017 10:49:32 AM PST by Carriage Hill ( Poor demoncrats haven't been this mad, since the Republicans took their slaves away.)
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To: w1n1

Stupid criminals make things fun, cracka boy should have shot the dude in the ass for good measure.

An attacker with a firearm can be quickly neutralized if within 3ft, not something I recommend someone go out and test for themselves but for someone properly trained it is certainly a survivable encounter.

Knives are actually more dangerous in close quarters than a firearm.


8 posted on 03/09/2017 10:50:19 AM PST by bar sin·is·ter
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A gun is a DISTANCE weapon, unless you stick a bayonet on it or it’s out of ammo and you’re using it as a club.

Always cracks me up how people get so close with a gun the other guy can just reach out and touch them like a palm slap match.

That’s what you have to do with a knife if it’s all you have, never a gun. I always heard flee a knife and charge a gun, just hope I never have to actually do it though.


9 posted on 03/09/2017 10:50:54 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: w1n1

I always figured in a pinch i’d take my 38 snubby stick it into their belly and pull the trigger till it clicked.


10 posted on 03/09/2017 10:53:46 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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The real lesson here is that one should never try to clear your house or your buildings with a long gun.

I know many do not agree, but this video says it all. Close quarters gives the wood be gun grabber a huge advantage over the guy with the long gun.

A pistol would have caused a different ending.

On the other hand, if you are going to stay put in your bedroom with your long gun aimed at the only way in......


11 posted on 03/09/2017 10:56:58 AM PST by old curmudgeon
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wood=would


12 posted on 03/09/2017 10:59:05 AM PST by old curmudgeon
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Jimmy Hoffa was on trial in Chattanooga, TN back in the days of Bobby Kennedy if I recall correctly.

Some guy was going to kill him in the courtroom and Hoffa charged him and knocked him out.

He was called a brave man, etc. and his reply was that you learned on the street to run from a knife but you can’t outrun a bullet.


13 posted on 03/09/2017 11:02:48 AM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: Abathar
I tried it in 1975, and got shot. Still carry the .32cal in my left hip.
14 posted on 03/09/2017 11:11:03 AM PST by Carriage Hill ( Poor demoncrats haven't been this mad, since the Republicans took their slaves away.)
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To: old curmudgeon

I’m going to be one of those disagreeing.

Disarming is a skill. So is weapon retention. It has been demonstrated over and over again by instructors in this area that disarming someone with a long gun who is trained in weapon retention is much harder than disarming the same person armed with a handgun.

Disarming someone with even a little training in weapon retention is a fool’s errand. Especially if they have a rifle or shotgun.


15 posted on 03/09/2017 11:13:21 AM PST by JamesP81 (The DNC poses a greater threat to my liberty than terrorists, China, and Russia. Combined.)
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To: w1n1

My son did this once with a shotgun-wielding thug when he was clerking in a convenience store. He swore it was no big deal, but the idea of it didn’t give me a warm fuzzy feeling.


16 posted on 03/09/2017 11:14:03 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: carriage_hill

Still get radio signals from the
Mother Ship?

sorry.
Meant as a chuckle.


17 posted on 03/09/2017 11:19:43 AM PST by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: JamesP81

Of course you are correct because we know that everyone with a long gun has had training in weapon retention.

And walking down a long hall with doors on the right and left....like a walk in the park.

More like a walk to the grave.


18 posted on 03/09/2017 11:20:41 AM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: Abathar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eTx9WbqmoI


19 posted on 03/09/2017 11:22:34 AM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: JamesP81

SO if you are fighting a cop or a delta force guy trained in retention, don’t try it. Got it.

How many street criminals you think are trained in that? The truth is, most are expecting compliance and it takes them a second to process that it’s all going wrong for them.
Disarming is a skill, but it isn’t rocket science. Its surprise speed and decisiveness. And I bet 98% of the population has never had a formal class in weapons retention.


20 posted on 03/09/2017 11:39:22 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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