Posted on 01/05/2017 4:51:43 PM PST by Stand Watch Listen
I don’t think trade with China has to be viewed bad in total.
If we aren’t demanded to give up our patents, and trade goes both ways, it can be good.
I think we have totally gotten hosed by this point though.
In some ways it does. The living accommodations in Japan are very small. I’ve heard some troubling comments on the way marriage and relationships work there, at least in part.
I find some of the society to be worthy of admiration, but I also find parts of it to be troubling.
Worth the read. I will return to this info.
Nothing to do with Rockefeller. Its the fault of two Bushes, Clinton, and of course Obama.
“Rockefeller=Tri-Lateral Commission!!!”
Yep. Quoting Rockefeller from his 1973 article “From A China traveler” -
“One is impressed immediately by the sense of national harmony. From the loud patriotic music at the border onward, there is very real and pervasive dedication to Chairman Mao and Maoist principles. Whatever the price of the Chinese Revolution, it has obviously succeeded not only in producing more efficient and dedicated administration, but also in fostering high morale and community of purpose.”
“The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao’s leadership is one of the most important and successful in human history.”
Got proof?
How can you possible say that?!!! It wasn't brilliant it was monumentally stupid. It has resulted in a weak de industrialized USA. Our "relationship" with China didn't hasten the slit up of the USSR by one day.
Fixed it.
Those shipping containers also prove toe fungus: there is more of it.
Kissenger and his ilk basically sold out their country. I thought so then, and I still think they did.
> “ The $19.99 plastic action-figure toy marketed with a Hollywood movie still cost $19.99 even though it cost $12 to $15 to produce in the U.S. but less than $2.00 per copy to produce in China and transport to America’s West Coast container ports for distribution throughout America.”
This is so true.
I remember being in Taiwan seeing a dial tone phone manufactured for less than 50 cents with the same phone sitting on a KMart shelf for $9.99.
The Taiwan Chinese ‘manufacturing’ comprised an ‘assembly line’ that was made up of picnic-like tables lined up end to end with cheap hand tools hanging overhead from coiled lanyards.
I was told the packaging and shipping accounted for 13 cents of every phone.
This was in the early 1980s.
I was told later that such shops were springing up all over the PRC but the rule of law was so absent that any tools, equipment, products in transit to/from the sweat shops would disappear in shipment.
And that’s why Japan didn’t go whole hog after the Almighty Foreign Dollar like China did.
I’m actually feeling somewhat sad about China here, not just the USA. I think you’re intelligent enough to recognize, as most Christians do, that money worship leads to “all kinds of evil.” Japan wouldn’t embrace some of these evils, even at the cost of halting the money train. If it had, we probably would have seen the results of Japan abjectly sacrificing itself too.
The answer is to try harder to bring a Christian perspective to trade with China. If I may put it this way: Dear China, please stop worshiping our money. We aren’t God and certainly our money isn’t God, although our money does say In God We Trust. Let’s look to heaven and hammer out a better solution to our mutual situation, where you’re prosperous but you aren’t depending on our money for that to be the case. Where you will rise in a real sense, because God did it, rather than in a faux sense, because man willed it no matter what violence happens to God’s creation.
There are two phases of the China equation.
In 1973 Kissinger went to China an opened up the country to the outside.
Twenty years later trade policies were implemented that saw the U.S. gutted.
China didn’t surpass Japan as our largest trade deficit partner until 2000, 27 years after Kissinger went to China.
Opening up China was brilliant.
Executing the trade polices in the 1990s that saw our jobs, methods, infrastructure, and patents go to China, absolutely the dumbest things ever done by a nation to itself.
all I want is a fair deal....fair taxes....
I want the federal govt and the state govts to serve the citizens, not the other way around...
I expect that when I pay into SS for 40 yrs that money will be there for me to take....same for Medicare...
I don't expect for illegals to be getting huge tax refunds at my expense...
the rich will always get richer, but the other classes need to see a rise in their prosperity too....
CUT TAXES!
I don’t see these things in quite the terms you do. I’ll explain.
China to my way of thinking is doing what a nation trying to bring itself into the 21st Century should do.
It had a massive populace with a very sub-par standard of living. Marketing itself as a place to manufacture things for a lot less costs in wages, was a decent thing to do.
Over the years it’s business climate grew and paid for a complete overhaul of the nation. I don’t think it necessarily evil for the standard of living of it’s residents to be propelled forward four or five decades in a couple of decades.
One could make the case that China would have been evil not to implement policies that could improve the lives of it’s people.
My big beef with China, is that it offered too good a deal to our businesses, and they couldn’t resist.
It didn’t matter to our businesses if they were giving away our patent and knowledge base that gave us an edge. It didn’t matter if these contributed to China becoming more of a global threat. It didn’t matter if destroying families and lives in the U.S. resulted.
I see much more evil on the part of the U.S. players who willingly went along with it. IMO, the time will come when they stand before God, and they have to explain why it was a good idea to benefit themselves on the backs of their fellow man. Good luck with that.
I don’t see this as China seeking to sell itself for an almighty buck. I see it as China realizing that business would finance it’s needs. It did.
As long as business is not destructive, I have no problem with it. What we did to ourselves was destructive, and I think it was pure evil.
We have 95 able bodied people out of work in this nation. Some say that includes the retired, so I’ll stick with the 45 million figure that are of a working age and being unfulfilled because our businesses relocated overseas.
Once again, that is vile and evil IMO.
We need to take care of our own citizen/workers. It is evil not to.
The USA was sold out by the globalists, all push started by Bush the Elder who can rot in hell for all I care one day.
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