[spintreebob]

In the immigration debate, all sides have pushed mis-information. But this article takes the debate to a new level of lies and twisting of facts.

First, the number of legal aliens is far larger than what they show. The number of criminal aliens (both legals and illegals) is far larger than what they show because they only show a snapshot of incarcerated at a point in time. They do not count those released from incarcerations. They do not count those guilty but not incarcerated. They do not count those plea bargained for la lesser offense where there is no doubt they did the deed.

They don't define what is criminal. Aggravated assault, battery are misdemeanors rarely incarcerated. But they are crimes. I call DUI/DWI and leaving the scene of an accident crimes. Some do not. I do not call a speeding ticket a crime. Some do.

The big question in defining crime is to what extent do breaking the laws around SS Numbers and Green Cards become a crime. Is using the SS Number of your own anchor baby a crime in the same way that using the SS Number of a stranger a crime? Or in the same way that using the SS Number not held by anyone else a crime?

[Blennos]

To my mind, every illegal alien is a criminal. They broke our laws by coming into our country illegally. This seems to be a very difficult concept for many to understand.

[hopespringseternal]

Fake writer. A real one knows how to use a comma in a sentence.

[Rapscallion]

Try this. The number of people here without approval is most probably at least 11 million, determined by the honest prior Bush administration figures. Possibly half of those have the various fake approvals, amnesties, ID cards, etc., from Obamaism that makes then look legal. But they are still here illegally.

The way to solve this is if they catch the eye of enforcement personnel and cannot reasonably show they are here legally, they are to be presumed to be not here legally and they are also not legally a citizen. In that case deportion is the correct course of action, imposd with one right of appeal then out they go, deported with spouse and family.

Sorry to say even the Trump administration has an easier job cleaning up Obama's crime by focusing on the smaller numbers. It's simple, saying it is fewer to deport, means less work to correct the situation.

My recommendation, if you cannot prove you are a citizen you are expelled. You can then reapply to legally enter.

[GailA]

Illegals make up 37% of the federal prison population. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/07/illegal-immigrants-accounted-for-nearly-37-percent-of-federal-sentences-in-fy-2014/

Prison Population http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=tp&tid=11

This does not count those on Probation or Parole.

I’d venture a guess it is closer to 4 Mil than 2.

Prison over crowding led to ‘good behavior’ time being invented by liberal do gooders. Along with all the goodies a prisoner now has including conjugal visits in states like Cali. Baby Nurseries in most states for female prisoners. Even RED TN has 2 women’s prisons, and 1 has a full blown nursery where they can ‘bond’ with the baby or siblings for 2 yrs after giving birth in prison, and we pick up the full tab for formula, diapers, and health care. If they’ve been good inmates, no such thing as a good inmate. Recidivism nationally is nearly 70%.

Those 11 month 29 day facilities are noting but 3 month revolving doors with Recidivism topping 85%. 30=50 or more lower felonies each. Memphis is an all male population for the Penal Farm. Which used to grow all it’s own food, now it’s all bought. You can’t work them, it violates their rights. BS.

[Freedom_Is_Not_Free]

Here is a fact. Almost 40% of federal criminals are Illegal Aliens. Send them packing home, after their sentences are done of course.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/07/illegal-immigrants-accounted-for-nearly-37-percent-of-federal-sentences-in-fy-2014/

[liberalh8ter]

Speaking of fake news, this morning on the Today Show, Savannah Guthrie reported on the annual Presidential Turkey Pardoning. She stated, and I kind you not, that this is a new tradition that was started by President Obama at the request of his daughters! I about lost my mind 😡

[Stayfree]

About ten years ago, the Pew Foundation did a detailed study and estimated the number of illegals at that time as between 48 million and 65 million. I have not been able to find any evidence of that study...probably because the politicians had it scrubbed from the face of the earth. But I do know that when our son entered 3rd grade in 1993 in Big Bear Lake, CA, there were very few hispanics in his school. When we left Big Bear 2 years ago, the school is well over 80% hispanic. A total invasion.

[GOPJ]

When combining these two groups, I got a total of 24.2 million foreign born, non U.S.-citizens.

They ALL need to go back to their own countries.

Yes, start with the violent criminals - - then the rest of 'em.

IF we have to have 24 million Hispanics then send this bunch OF ILLEGALS home - AND bring in 10+ MILLION HONEST HISPANICS WHO HAVE BEEN WAITING IN LINE FOR YEARS.

[Sam Gamgee]

They call themselves “lawfare”? So they admit, they are lawyers, are willing to use the legal system for political warfare? I mean its what I thought liberals were all about, but never seen them so transparent about their abuse of the law.