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It is a matter of priorities. It is hard to defend the insane American regulation of gun mufflers.
1 posted on 11/20/2016 11:48:22 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Eh?


2 posted on 11/20/2016 11:49:09 AM PST by dfwgator
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It’s an easy sell, really. All those outdoor gun ranges that are noise problems could simply implement silencer rules. Counties and cities could easy enforce them.


4 posted on 11/20/2016 11:56:06 AM PST by CodeToad (Ding Dong, the Bitch is Dead!!!)
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Will it preempt state laws?


5 posted on 11/20/2016 11:57:14 AM PST by umgud (ban all infidelaphobics)
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To: marktwain

If they’re $20 other places, why do they cost $500-$1200 here even before I pay the tax stamp? Grrr.


6 posted on 11/20/2016 11:58:32 AM PST by FateAmenableToChange
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Was my picture prophetic?

"We won."
7 posted on 11/20/2016 12:00:50 PM PST by RandallFlagg (Vote for your guns!)
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Similarly, knife laws are almost as absurd. Switchblades are forbidden in many jurisdictions. Double-edged "Arkansas toothpicks" are also. Even knives with a "clip edge" are outlawed in some places. No folding knife with a blade longer than 4 inches ... Etc..

What kind of stupidity is that?

8 posted on 11/20/2016 12:01:03 PM PST by IronJack
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Question about silencers: Do they interfere with performance??


10 posted on 11/20/2016 12:02:58 PM PST by DouglasKC
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article is incorrect, silencers were not part of 1934 NFA, they were added to NFA in 1938. They were added incorrectly and as such are not subjected to the cross state line notification forms like mg, sbr and sbs are required to do. I expect sloppy writing from the msm, it would be nice if experts actually knew the subject


12 posted on 11/20/2016 12:11:06 PM PST by Jeff Vader
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Well, sho would be nice. Count me in for this “common sense” legislation !


13 posted on 11/20/2016 12:12:30 PM PST by snooter55 (People may doubt what you say, but they will always believe what you do)
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To: marktwain

Along with fooling around building mufflers freedom, I want my incandescent light bulbs back too.


18 posted on 11/20/2016 12:32:59 PM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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Where we live someone is always firing a weapon of some sort, mostly a rifle. And it’s all hours of the day and night.

I do not have a problem with this. None, zero. We live in the woods, and I’d rather know when someone is firing a rifle. Typically it’s hunting or varmint control.

I see not using a silencer as a good thing, whereas if someone is shooting a weapon when I’m out in the woods, I will know enough to keep out of that persons way.

Also, we do not allow hunting on the same lot our home is on for obvious safety reasons. For those wondering what, it’s to reduce the possibility of someone taking aim at a deer with our home as a backstop in case he misses.

The same applies to criminals. I’d rather hear the gunshots going off at the liquor store for plenty of obvious reasons, such as a warning to call the cops, such as a warning to stay away, or as a notice to draw my own firearm and take care of business.

And then we have poachers. These folks will still ply their trade, silencers or none, but having them makes it easier. Easier to take a deer out of season just about anyplace.

So personally, I’m against silencers.


20 posted on 11/20/2016 12:38:17 PM PST by redfreedom (The nation has been saved. Thank you Dear Lord. Long live President Trump!)
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Drain the swamp.

Eliminate the ATF. Get the Feds out of Acohol, Tobacco and Firearms. Let the states set and collect all related taxes. Let the states do whatever they want within the Constitution.

Shift ATF agents to the FBI. Get the FBI out of bank robbery. It is a State and Local crime.

Feds should focus on terrorism, cybercrime, political corruption.

Drain the swamp. Get the Feds out of Transportation.
Let the States set and collect all gas, tire, airport taxes and control spending of the money.

Drain the swamp.


26 posted on 11/20/2016 1:00:53 PM PST by spintreebob
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a bizarre law with unintended consequences

John Ross, please pick up the white courtesy phone.

32 posted on 11/20/2016 1:13:59 PM PST by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building)
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The times dictated the legislation. Organized crime had taken over vities in the 2ps. These criminals availed themselves of all sirts of exotic weaponry. Silencers were considered, like Tommy Guns and sawed offs to be the tools of the trade for these criminals. Cops were often outgunned if they were a mind to confront the lawlessness. So silencers, the tools of furtive killings, and sawed offs, and Tommy Guns, and other AWs like BARs were declared illegal. O Tempora O Mores.


36 posted on 11/20/2016 1:23:36 PM PST by xkaydet65
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When the left starts crying and stomping their feet just politely tell them this is a “public health issue”.

I will be first in line to get my suppressor. I already have two but I need one for my rim fire and my HD handgun. Without the tax stamp, it will be far easier to justify these purchases.


45 posted on 11/20/2016 1:45:48 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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"In 1934, the Franklin Roosevelt administration was able to pass omnibus gun control legislation, with massive infringements on the Second Amendment."
FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

Noting that I gladly voted for Trump and do not regret doing so, the problem with federal gun laws is the following imo.

While the states have expressly constitutional delegated to the feds the specific power to regulate military firearms, evidenced by the Constitution’s Article I, Section 8, Clause 16, the state have never constitutionally delegated the specific power to regulate civilian-use firearms, corrections and insights welcome.

In fact, consider that regardless what FDR’s state sovereignty-ignoring activist justices wanted everybody to think about the scope of Congress’s Commerce Clause powers (1.8.3), it remains that a previous generation of state sovereignty-respecting justices had clarified that the states have never delegated to the feds expressly via the Constitution the specific power to regulate INTRAstate commerce.

”State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress [emphases added].” —Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

So I don’t see where the feds have any constitutional authority to regulate the INTRAstate sale and use of firearms.

Patriots need to start working with Trump to inventory federal books for constitutionally indefensible laws, there are probably plenty of them, and either surrender stolen state powers back to the states, or petition the states for new amendments granting Congress the specific powers to justify such laws.

And I wouldn’t be surprised if constitutionally low-information Trump eventually finds that some of laws that he signs are unconstitutional.

49 posted on 11/20/2016 2:04:32 PM PST by Amendment10
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Amazing this hasn’t been done long ago. The “movies” made people frightened (sheeple). You don’t go to a range without your earplugs! I would think as “environmentally sensitive” (hear the birdies singing?) the left is, they wouldn’t have DEMANDED silencers for all guns.


58 posted on 11/20/2016 3:00:31 PM PST by ThePatriotsFlag ( Anything FREELY-GIVEN by the government was TAKEN from someone else.)
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Saw a Marlin 39 with a factory Maxim silencer once, very cool.


60 posted on 11/20/2016 3:05:57 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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For obscure and unknown reasons, gun mufflers, also known as silencers, or suppressors, were included in the act

Not really mysterious. They were put in the law in an attempt to stop the poaching of deer. The idea was that without silencers, poachers could be heard and more easily caught by game wardens. And because of that stupid reasoning, we shooters have to worry about losing our hearing.

62 posted on 11/20/2016 3:19:56 PM PST by JoeFromSidney (,)
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Bank robbery is a federal crime for one, and only one reason. J. Edgar Hoover saw bank robbery as a way for his FBI to win the PR war and funding from congress. Prior to J. Edgar Hoover bank robbery was a local crime. Pre-FBI Federal Marshalls assisted state and local authorities. But it was always the Sheriff with primary responsibility for solving bank robbery.

J. Edgar Hoover and his ego trip are in the past.

We need to get on with the future.... a future where the centralization of government by Hoover, by FDR, by LBJ, by Nixon, by all of them is reversed selectively where it no longer makes sense.

IN 2016 a bank hold up is no different than a gas station or Waffle House holdup.


65 posted on 11/20/2016 3:32:33 PM PST by spintreebob
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