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1 posted on 08/23/2016 9:03:52 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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Bail needs to be set according to what is a meaningful amount for the person making bail.

Like when Hillary eventually gets arrested her bail shouldn’t be any less than $100 million because for that paltry amount of money she’s a flight risk.

For a homeless guy $250 might be too much.


2 posted on 08/23/2016 9:06:52 AM PDT by MeganC (JE SUIS CHARLES MARTEL!!!)
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Just let them go, with a promise to return. After all, we know criminals are always honest and are no risk to society.


3 posted on 08/23/2016 9:07:56 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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I’ll be impressed when they finally acknowledge that putative damages are by definition and intent excessive.


4 posted on 08/23/2016 9:08:34 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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So, replace bail with a speedy trial...48 hours maximum until the initial hearing, one week to get to trial. Or let the liberals who are whining about the treatment of the “poor” front them the bail money.


5 posted on 08/23/2016 9:09:30 AM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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Okay, let ‘em out, but the have to stay with Democratic policy makers.


6 posted on 08/23/2016 9:09:54 AM PDT by fwdude (If we keep insisting on the lesser of two evils, that is exactly what they will give us from now on.)
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I can actually see a Constitutional basis for this argument.

The VIII Amendment reads, in its entirety:

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

I think it is arguable that any amount of bail which is beyond the defendant's ability to pay is by definition "excessive."

Obviously, if a defendant is perceived by the court to be a danger to society based on preliminary evidence, there is a concern about letting him or her out of jail until a trial is held and concluded.

But the Constitutional solution in that case is for the judge to rule that the defendant be remanded to custody until there is a trial and a verdict.

7 posted on 08/23/2016 9:11:25 AM PDT by Maceman (Screw the Party. Save the Country.)
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Heck my county has “diversions” you can buy from the powers that be to completely ignore and scrub from the records any criminal act you have committed, for a price.


8 posted on 08/23/2016 9:12:10 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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OK, how about a “bail collar”? Like a dog training collar that zaps him when he misbehaves, GPS equipped. If the perp fails to show up at the appointed time and place for a hearing, press the button and remind him. And if he’s not allowed to leave the area the GPS will zap him if he does and broadcast his location. Make sure he knows that it will explode if he tries to cut it off or otherwise remove it, too.


9 posted on 08/23/2016 9:15:49 AM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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We jailed people for vagrancy early on.

The bail is usually low enough for someone to spring these thugs.

13 posted on 08/23/2016 9:24:18 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Wow, they really do want all the felons and yet-to-be-convicted felons out and voting, don’t they?


15 posted on 08/23/2016 9:29:35 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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Can’t afford bail? then put them on public work detail


16 posted on 08/23/2016 9:33:38 AM PDT by drypowder
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so they want to do what they do with illegals. Catch them and then let them go hoping the illegals or criminals can then turn up to a court date. Yep that has worked so good for the legal immigration system. NOT.


17 posted on 08/23/2016 9:36:25 AM PDT by manc ( If they want so called marriage equality then they should support polygamy too.)
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That’s right so if a serial killer or a mass murderer (say Dylan Root) is poor then I say we should just let them out until trial because bail is so bad


19 posted on 08/23/2016 9:39:27 AM PDT by Nifster (Ignore all polls. Get Out The Vote)
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Has anybody thought this out, as an attack on the bail bonds industry?

Anybody, anywhere, in the U.S., that cannot pay the bail, has available to them, a bail bondsman.

So, now, with the unofficial word being, no bail to be charged’, translates to ‘no further business for bondsmen’.


27 posted on 08/23/2016 10:09:56 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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This is so illogical! The point is that if arrested, you CAN ans WILL be held unril arraignment to see if the charges are valid. Then, if the grand jury or judge determines that the charges have substance, then if you are too poor to meet the bailbondsman's fee for bail, then: (1) you won't lose much; and (2) if you flee, then you wouldn't be losing much either. So it is wise to keep you until the charges are settled or dropped. The issue here is that a speedy trial should take place.

And if one is able to pay bail (which is returned when you do, why idn't this just as unfair to the truly innocent detainee and as damaging as it would be to the "too poor" detainee?

Often the issue is only whether or not you will cop a plea for lesser charges, anyway.

And Obama's "justice" is not Constitutional at all.

28 posted on 08/23/2016 10:11:27 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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Let's see if I have this correct. A terrorist, murderer, or drug dealer is caught, brought before a judge and the judge is told that the accused is a flight risk...... The Department of Injustice says high bail that the accused can't afford is unconstitutional? What the he*l just changed in our legal system?
29 posted on 08/23/2016 10:21:32 AM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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First Obama decides to legislate from the Presidency (instead of Congress). Now he gets to decide what’s constitutional (the Courts’ job).

So much for checks and balances! Who again said he’s not a dictator?


30 posted on 08/23/2016 10:29:32 AM PDT by winner3000
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Bail should not be based on money. Someone who is a danger should not be bailed out. The rich should not be allowed to walk the streets simply because they have money. In this, I AGREE WITH HIM!
Yes, it’s unconstitutional.


32 posted on 08/23/2016 11:06:24 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The media is acting full-on as the Democratic PartyÂ’s press agency now: Robert Spencer.)
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In a rational world, if this stands, then people will simply be held in jail with no bail and no way out.


36 posted on 08/23/2016 12:32:21 PM PDT by arthurus
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Memo to the DOJ: how about Ryan, Aamon and Clven Bundy being held in jail for minor crimes with no bail you Commie thugs!


37 posted on 08/23/2016 1:08:13 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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