Posted on 05/26/2016 8:32:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
A substantial number of voters think theyve been cut out of Americas implicit economic deal.
The anger hypothesis for explaining the rise of Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders has become the conventional one, and this is a rare occasion when I believe the conventional view is right. Recent news stories show why the Trump-Sanders phenomenon will not be fleeting.
The Fed reported on Wednesday that nearly half of Americans would have trouble meeting an unexpected $400 expense. In addition, about one-fifth of Americans were working two or more jobs simultaneously last year, and about one-third have no retirement savings or pension. Not a bright picture....
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Easy...because global socialism has overstepped its boundaries, which should be confined to a Petri dish. It must but put back in its place like socialist hitler was and people are angry enough to do it now.
Let’s not be too hard on Vet.
He’s a long time Freeper who has brought us many great articles, and helped make FR the best Conservative site on the net.
I understand his being upset because his candidate dropped out, (as many are) but being an honorable man, I know he will put this aside, do the right thing and vote for the man who won the Conservative candidacy.
You never let up, do you? Why don’t you get honest with yourself and return to the Hillary Camp?
If you say so
Mostly. People have finally gotten the us vs. them mentality. The them being government and politicians.
Simple as that.
I am surrounded by people who couldn’t come up with $400. Most because of really bad decisions they made and continue making. It’s really a drag when they all know you have it. No is big in my vocabulary.
OK, you’re right, I shouldn’t judge. Apologies to Vet - maybe I was a bit harsh. I know he is a good contributor and I have found a lot of what he posts very interesting.
Still, for the sake of honest, hopefully constructive ‘feedback’, there is a point where the anti Trump message becomes repetitive, predictable and therefore tedious.
For example, I used to so look forward to Mark Levin, and considered his radio show the highlight of my day. I bought all his books and hung on his every word. Now, I still try tuning in when I’m in the car, but it has become a sad game of seeing how many seconds I can enjoy listening before he starts deriding Trump and Trump supporters, after which I just can’t listen.
This is a shame and a great loss for me - what was once a great show is now unlistenable.
It is similar to 2ndDivisionVet; I read a headline and wonder if the article is worth reading, or if it is just a hit piece. So I look at who posted it, if it is Vet, I have gotten in the habit of assuming it is probably a hit piece... And pass.
As with Levin, this is a big loss for me.
I appreciate your words and will take them into serious consideration. I don’t really know that much about 2ndDivisionVet so I shouldn’t judge.
As I said on another post, I don’t have a particular problem with him, it is more a matter of seeing so many articles posted in a row with headlines that suggest the author is expressing some ‘concern’ about Trump, or where the author is trying to unravel the mystery of what is wrong with people that they could support Trump. Are they angry? Are they violent, are they uneducated? Are they white? Are world leaders against Trump? Did he change his position on something? Are the delegates going to jump ship at the first opportunity? Is his ‘ground game’ unsophisticated?
There is an endless supply of anti Trump hit pieces that aren’t worth reading and if I really wanted to read that trash there are other sites I’d sign onto instead of FR.
Anyway, it seems like sometimes the anti Trump agenda is over the top. If these anti Trump people worked anywhere near this hard to draw attention to Obama’s failings or Clinton’s, that would be more appropriate on FR. But that doesn’t happen, all their efforts are spent fighting Trump - I just don’t get it - Trump is not the enemy.
The anger is here to stay because the finger-sticking has all been the other way for quite some time now. I read these analyses and fail to pick up even a hint that the authors have considered that the anger might be justified, not at the formless, faceless economy but at specific individuals in government who have taken it upon themselves to do that finger-sticking.
Who can possibly view an arrogant creature such as Lois Lerner and the clearly illegal abuses of power she committed at the IRS and not think the government is out of control? Who can watch Eric Holder turn the Justice Department into an implement of racial warfare and not get angry? Who can watch social activists use their privileged positions to conduct class warfare and punish class enemies and not resent that being done at all, much less on their victims' dime? Who can listen to Jonathan Gruber crowing happily about his skill at lying to the American people who pay him without resentment? Who can watch Hillary Clinton methodically disobey every law that stands between her and power and personal aggrandizement, lie shamelessly, solicit bribery, amass a personal fortune while in a position of public trust, betray our military, our State Department personnel, our people, without feeling a burning outrage, fanned by her smirking dismissal of the people who feed her as impotent peasants unworthy of her consideration?
Anyone not angry at this is either benefiting from it or not paying attention. The author is correct about one thing: it isn't going away.
If you don’t think people are angry about illegal aliens, 0bamacare, corruption in DC, a lousy economy and a dozen other things and are supporting Trump because of that that’s not just irrational that’s bug nuts crazy.
A lot of that lately.
That’s for sure. How can anyone argue that people aren’t angry about what’s going on? I don’t get that.
I’m not saying no Trump supporters are angry, my point is that Trump support is not ONLY based on anger and emotions. There are plenty rational reasons to support Trump and he has plenty of supporters that are calm, rational and intelligent.
A lot of hit pieces try to make the case that the entire Trump phenomenon is one big temper tantrum by immature knuckle dragging xenophobes that Trump has tapped into with a cult of personality.
I was just disputing that interpretation, which is unfounded, and demeaning to Trump and his supporters. Of course there is anger where justified, but that is not the real story. The Trump movement is not merely emotional, it has substance.
The article cites economic concerns for the anger. That’s not rational or justified? How is that a “hit piece?”
There’s a not so flattering implication. If you don’t already see it, perhaps you never will.
I don’t imagine monsters under my bed either.
One cannot compare the righteous anger of Trump supporters/conservatives, with the un-righteous anger of the typical Leftist/Bernie supporter.
One side of the political spectrum demands true justice, sanity, logic, and stability to reign again.
The other side of the political spectrum is not so much interested in any kind of so-called justice. They demand further license to stoke the fire of anarchy, chaos, and division.
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