Posted on 01/11/2016 1:02:46 PM PST by Torcert
So you’ve obviously heard about solvent traps and you want to make sure they are legal. Well here’s the good news, they are 100% legal…with conditions.
A solvent trap is just that, a device that allows one to attach a canister, fuel filter, oil filter, etc, to the end of a weapon to catch the solvent that comes out the end of the barrel when cleaning. These devices also catch patches that are run through the barrel as well as the nasty “sneeze†of solvent that flicks off the copper bore brush when coming out the end of the barrel. Solvent traps offer a clean, mess free solution for preventing solvent from staining furniture or clothing. In addition, when you are done cleaning, you simply dispose of the filter.
Are Solvent Traps Legal?
According to the ATF, cleaning devices are not regulated, and rightfully so. When someone uses a solvent trap for purposes other than its intended and legal purposes, that is under ATF’s authority.
I’m pro 2nd Amendment, and when I’m on the jury of someone who’s defense is they were carrying around an oil filter in case they wanted to clean their PPK without getting solvent on their tux, I’m voting to convict, but giving an B+ for effort.
I sort of would like to hear why you want to filter your used solvent, but...it’s just all around bad.
Somehow the country’s priorities wouldn’t seem to be straight if the government is persecuting someone like that versus Real criminals who Rob, Rape and Murder.....
If I'm on a jury where a police officer arrested someone for having perfectly legal items I am voting to fire the JBT want to be.
With reasonable limits, right? Like having an oil filter or possessing a skunk on a steamboat landing?
Huh?
I have never heard of a solvent trap for gun cleaning. Adding one more item to the trash bag that requires significantly more materials and manufacturing processes than patches of cotton cloth sure doesn't sound "green" to me. I don't splash much solvent around when I clean a gun either but an old hand towel dedicated to gun cleaning catches any solvent that does.
Channel 5 is TV (and maybe soap operas)
Chanel 5 is perfume
Hickok45 is a gun oriented you tube (google it - fun)
Hoppes 9 is gun solvent
That’s all.
Heheheh
That’s the old vintage stuff, lol. I saved some of that. If I remember that had Benzene in it.
Fine. I misspelled Chanel. I’m a guy, I don’t pay attention to the fashion world.
Don’t know how hickok got into my post.
And Hoppe’s is a nitro powder solvent. I wouldn’t use it if it dissolved a gun. That would be silly, not to mention expensive.
“Typo aside, they’re illegal silencers - well, illegal if you actually shoot thru them, legal if you just pour cleaning fluid thru the barrel.”
A law that is illegal is no law at all. Of course, when “they” have entry teams on stand-by, it is best to avoid coming to their attention - they have, do and will continue to enforce laws that are contrary to the Constitution, so it is up to each individual to make up their own mind.
In theory, I might go out with a friend to the middle of nowhere, try the filter out, wipe it for prints and then toss it in a garbage can inside of a McD’s bag at least 20 miles from my home, just to know that the thing works, and then have a supply at home for if/when the SHTF (because then there are no rules - except staying unnoticed by predators). In theory. :>)
Yes, of course... going green is the way to go...
We’re saving the planet don’t you know...
“I’m pro 2nd Amendment, and when I’m on the jury of someone who’s defense is they were carrying around an oil filter in case they wanted to clean their PPK without getting solvent on their tux, I’m voting to convict, but giving an B+ for effort.”
I hope that you do know that the Congress in the mid-1930’s was no more intellectual, no more honest and no more dedicated to the ideals of the Framers than at present - they passed the NFA in 1934 to effectively outlaw full autos and suppressors because...some sheeple were scared because of the use of these in the movies and by a VERY few actual bad guys, and they “had to do something.” FYI, in Europe it is often illegal to NOT use a suppressor - and is otherwise considered rude (noise pollution, you know). Frankly, I think that the pro-gunners in the Congress should amend the Obamacare legislation so as to reduce the chance of hearing loss (it’ll save a LOT of money over the years) by legalizing suppressors - no federal tax stamp or permit required, if you can buy the gun you can buy the suppressor.
“That’s right. The Kali DOJ has been known to try and jack up a shooter under a charge of constructive possession ie: has all the parts for a suppressor together but not assembled( gun/adapter/filter) but no paperwork. Makes for a real awkward day.”
Yeah, it makes for an “awkward day,” but this “constructive possession” thing is absurd. A decent lawyer can make mincemeat out of that absurd argument. If there is no hole in the oil filter that exactly matches the diameter of the bullets fired by the defendant’s firearm, then there is no crime. It truly IS a solvent trap - unless you decide to ACTUALLY use it to violate some (unconstitutional) law.
Don’t forget to recycle any metal cans and other scrap metal parts by burying them around just in case the Feral government get’s nosy and shows up with a metal detector - it gives them some to find of low value.
Well stated.
Where and when did ‘shall not be infringed’ morph into the incremental destruction of Liberty?
Good question! Operant legal theory is that only the numbers in the Constitution are not amenable to creative redefinition. Two senators, 35 years old, etc. Current accepted practice is that phrases like "shall not be infringed" or "natural born citizen" can be redefined by the legal system.
No, under the arms.
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