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Greenfield: The Death of the American Welfare State
The Sultan Knish blog ^ | Friday, October 30, 2015 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 11/01/2015 8:18:39 AM PST by Louis Foxwell

Friday, October 30, 2015

The Death of the American Welfare State

Posted by Daniel Greenfield @ the Sultan Knish blog

In 1935, the year that FDR signed the Social Security Act into law, the birth rate was 18.7 per 1,000. In 1940, when the first monthly check was issued, it had gone up to 19.4. By 1954, when Disability had been added, the birth rate at the heart of the Baby Boom stood at 25.3.

In a nation of 163 million people, 4 million babies were being born each year.

By 1965, when Medicare was plugged in, the birth rate had fallen back to 19.4. For the first time in ten years fewer than 4 million babies had been born in a country of 195 million. Medicare had been added in the same year that saw the single biggest drop in birth rates since the Great Depression.

There could not have been a worse time for Medicare than the end of the Baby Boom.

Today in a nation of 319 million, 4.1 million babies are being born each year for a birth rate of 13.0 per 1,000. 40.7% of those births are to unmarried mothers meaning that it will be a long time, if ever, before those single families put back into the system, and most will never put back in as much as they are taking out. Those children will cost more to educate, be more likely to be involved in crime and less likely to succeed economically. But even if they weren't, the system would still be unsustainable.

Liberals act as if the crisis facing us can be fixed if we take more from the "wealthy elderly" or give them less. And the topic even came up at the CNBC Republican debate in a Social Security debate.

But the problem is not the amount of money being spent at the top on the elderly, but the diminishing prospects for paying in money at the bottom. Youth unemployment is high and job prospects are low. And the birth rate is skewed toward populations that are the least likely to be educated, the least likely to have good jobs and the least likely to pay more into the system than that they take out of it.

At the CNBC Debate, Senator Rand Paul said, "It’s not Republicans’ fault, it’s not Democrats’ fault, it’s your grandparents’ fault for having too many damn kids." But it's the other way around. Your grandparents didn't have enough kids. Neither did your parents. Neither do you.

Ron Paul had five kids. He had four brothers. That's a stable generational expansion. Without that, there's no one to pay for an older population that is living longer.

The crisis is born of demographics. It can't be fixed by targeting the elderly because they haven't been the problem in some time. It's the same crisis being faced by countries as diverse as Russia and Japan. The difference is that Russia is autocratic and has little concern for its people while Japan shuns immigration and has a political system dominated by the elderly.

Bernie Sanders admires Europe. But Europe's welfare state is imploding because of low birth rates. And so it adopted the American solution of expecting immigrants to make up the difference. But the immigrants have high rates of unemployment and low rates of productivity. Instead of funding the welfare state, they're bankrupting it even faster.

The United States takes in a million immigrants a year, many of whom also take out more than they put in. In his 2013 State of the Union address, Barack Obama praised Desiline Victor, a 102-year-old Haitian woman who moved to the United States at the age of 79 and doesn't speak English, but did spend hours waiting in line in Florida to vote for Obama.

Between 1990 and 2010, the number of immigrants over 65 doubled from 2.7 million to 5 million. 25 percent of these senior immigrants were over 80. Desiline Victor wasn't an outlier. Elderly immigrants are also much more likely to become citizens, in part because the requirements for them are lower. Many, like Victor, don't even have to learn English to be able to stand in line and vote.

15 percent of senior immigrants come from Mexico largely as a result of family unification programs. If amnesty for illegal aliens goes through, before long the country will be on the hook not just for twelve million illegal aliens, but also for their grandparents.

The welfare state has been spending more money with an unsustainable demographic imbalance. There are fewer working families supporting more elderly, immigrants and broken families. The Russians invest money into increasing the native birth rate. Instead we fund Planned Parenthood because liberal economic eugenics dictates that we should extract "full value" from working women as a tax base to subsidize the welfare state while discarding the next generation.

The "modern" system that we have adopted with its low birth rates, late marriages, working parents, high social spending and retirement benefits is at odds with itself. We can have low birth rates, deficit spending or Social Security; but there is no possible way that we can have all three.

And yet we have all three. 

Instead of forming a comprehensive picture, our approach is to tackle each problem as if were wholly separate from everything else. Working parents are applauded because they swell out the tax base in the short term. Young immigrants are applauded because they are supposed to swell out the lower part of the demographic imbalance. Manufacturing jobs are cast aside for modern jobs. The long term consequences of each step is ignored.

In the European model that we have adopted, men and women are supposed to spend their twenties being educated and their thirties having two children. These Johns and Julias will work in some appropriately "modern" field building apps, designing environmentally sustainable cribs for the few children being born or teaching new immigrants to speak enough English to vote. Then they plan to retire on money that doesn't actually exist because they are still paying off their student loans.

The reality is that John and Julia begin their marriage with tens of thousands in debts, only one of them will work full time, while the other balances part time work, and they will do all this while being expected to support social services for new immigrants and a native working class displaced by the outsourcing of manufacturing jobs, not to mention the elderly and the entire bureaucracy that has grown around them. If John and Julia are lucky, they will find work in a technology field that is still growing, or, more likely they will pry their way into the social services bureaucracy which will keep on paying them and cover their benefits until the national bankruptcy finally arrives.

John and Julia are Obama voters. They have two children. They don't worry about the future. The future to them seems to be a bright and modern thing overseen by experts and meticulously planned out in every detail. The only dark clouds on their horizon are the Republicans and the Great Unwashed in the Red States who are resisting the future by clinging to their guns and bibles.

In this post-work and post-poverty economy, those most likely to have children are also least likely to work or to be able to afford to have those children.

Birth rates for women on welfare are three times higher than for those who are not on welfare. Within a single year, the census survey found that unmarried women had twice as high a birth rate as married women. These demographics help perpetuate poverty and feed a welfare death spiral in which more money has to be spent on social services for a less productive tax base.

Children raised on welfare are far more likely to end up on welfare than the children of working families.

Fertility rates fall sharply above the $50,000 income line and with a graduate degree; that has ominous implications in a country whose socio-economic mobility rates continue to fall. There are a number of factors responsible, but one simple factor is that work ethics and skills are no longer being passed down to a growing percentage of the population.

Liberal activists still talk as if we can afford any level of social service expenditures if we raise taxes on the rich, but workers can't be created by raising taxes. The issue isn't "investing more in education" which is the liberal solution for everything including the imminent heat death of the universe.

It's liberalism.

Everything that the left has done, from breaking up the family to driving out manufacturing industries to promoting Third World immigration has made its own spending completely unsustainable. On a social level alone, we don't have the people we need to pay the bills. And at the rate we are going, we will only run up more bills that our demographics and our culture can no longer cash.

By 2031, nearly a century after the Social Security Act, an estimated 75 million baby boomers will have retired. Aside from the demographic disparity in worker ages is a subtler disparity in worker productivity and independence as senior citizens are left chasing social spending dollars that are increasingly going to a younger population. ObamaCare with its Medicare Advantage cuts was a bellwether of the shift in health care spending from seniors to the welfare population.

14 million people are now on Disability. That means that there are more people on Disability than there were people in the country during the War of 1812. Half of those on Disability are claiming back problems or mental problems. There are over a million children on Disability and the program is packed with younger recipients who are substituting it for welfare.

Increasing welfare is only a form of Death Panel economic triage that doesn't compensate for the lack
of productive workers. It's easy to model Obamerica as Detroit, a country with a huge indigent welfare population and a small wealthy tax base. The model doesn't work in Detroit and it's flailing in New York, California and every city and state where it's been tried.

After a century of misery, the left still hasn’t learned that there is no substitute for the middle class. It’s not just running out of money, it’s running out of people.

The welfare state is bankrupt and doesn't know it yet. Reality hasn't caught up with the numbers. Instead the welfare state is floating on loans based on past productivity, old infrastructure and a diminishing productive population whose technological industries employ fewer people and don't require their physical presence in the United States.

The welfare state has no future. It is only a question of what terms it will implode on and what will happen to the social welfare political infrastructure when it does. The violence in Venezuela and the slow death of Detroit give us insights into the coming collapse of the welfare state.


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: greenfield; obamacare; sultanknish; welfare; welfarestate
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To: MadIsh32

Boomers at age 28 worked hard and paid SS without whining about it. Now the millenials have charged up billions in student loans and want the govt to forgive it. Now that’s welfare. :-)


21 posted on 11/01/2015 9:54:32 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Since the gov’t hasn’t forgiven student loans, the welfare has not occurred.

As for social security welfare

“We don’t call Social Security “welfare” because it’s a pejorative term, and politicians don’t want to offend. So their rhetoric classifies Social Security as something else when it isn’t. Here is how I define a welfare program: First, it taxes one group to support another group, meaning it’s pay-as-you-go and not a contributory scheme where people’s own savings pay their later benefits. And second, Congress can constantly alter benefits, reflecting changing needs, economic conditions and politics. Social Security qualifies on both counts.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/06/AR2011030602926.html

By every objective measure, social security is welfare.


22 posted on 11/01/2015 10:01:00 AM PST by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: citizen

“Greenfield posed your question in the final paragraph.”

Maybe that’s as good as anyone can do.


23 posted on 11/01/2015 10:04:44 AM PST by cymbeline
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To: MadIsh32

Fortunately your warped definition of SS is so like Obama. Maybe if you can just explain it one more time everybody will understand. :-)


24 posted on 11/01/2015 10:05:07 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Actually, your view of SS is like Obama

““Second, I do not want to cut benefits or raise the retirement age. I believe there are a number of ways we can make Social Security solvent that do not involve placing these added burdens on our seniors. One possible option, for example, is to raise the cap on the amount of income subject to the Social Security tax. If we kept the payroll tax rate exactly the same but applied it to all earnings and not just the first $97,500, we could virtually eliminate the entire Social Security shortfall.””

https://ourfuture.org/fact_sheet/barack-obama-s-statements-social-security


25 posted on 11/01/2015 10:08:20 AM PST by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: citizen

“I just wish they’d get a job and out of mom’s basement”

Yes, then they could pay into SS. :-)


26 posted on 11/01/2015 10:11:20 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I would like to see younger workers transferred over to private savings as they will likely receive a lot more in benefits at age 65 than from SS.


I’ve seen some calculations, which show that if people could have placed the 12.4% Social Security payroll taxes they and their employers have paid all these years into other investments, that their retirement income from those investments would be a good bit higher than they will ever get from Social Security.


27 posted on 11/01/2015 10:13:25 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Louis Foxwell
Bernie Sanders admires Europe. But Europe's welfare state is imploding because of low birth rates. And so it adopted the American solution of expecting immigrants to make up the difference. But the immigrants have high rates of unemployment and low rates of productivity. Instead of funding the welfare state, they're bankrupting it ...

Everything that the left has done, from breaking up the family to driving out manufacturing industries to promoting Third World immigration has made its own spending completely unsustainable. On a social level alone, we don't have the people we need to pay the bills. And at the rate we are going, we will only run up more bills that our demographics and our culture can no longer cash.

Bernie's a smart man... he should know this stuff...

28 posted on 11/01/2015 10:17:10 AM PST by GOPJ (Imagine if the GOPe fought Dems as hard as they fight Repubs. - freeper bray)
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To: MadIsh32

And if one dies the day after retiring, then he and his airs get nothing, in part because nothing is there, as it was given away to prior generations.

Agree - CLEARLY WELFARE. The money a person gets who retires tomorrow will come from the debt imposed on our little kids, many not even born yet. The money that a working person puts in is immediately sent out to pay other government obligations...it is not saved or invested in any way.


29 posted on 11/01/2015 10:21:18 AM PST by BobL ( (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
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To: MadIsh32

“If we kept the payroll tax rate exactly the same but applied it to all earnings and not just the first $97,500”

Actually it’s now about $115k, but the cap will always be there, as lifting it will actually have the biggest effect not on rich Republican fat-cats, but on upper middle-class families in the Northeast and California - i.e., much of the DEMOCRAT BASE, which is why Obama may have talked about lifting the cap early in his campaign, but he QUICKLY shut up about it, once told who gets hit first.


30 posted on 11/01/2015 10:26:04 AM PST by BobL ( (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I believe that Chile has a plan that works really well. At retirement age people retire with about $3,000-$4,000 per month. One of the GOP candidates in 2012 was pushing that plan. I can’t remember who it was. Maybe Newt.


31 posted on 11/01/2015 10:27:08 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: MadIsh32
...a significant chunk of those (regressive) payroll taxes helped fund Ronald Reagan’s tax cuts for the wealthy.

More accurately, those taxes funded the spending growth authorized by the Democrat Congress during the Reagan years.

Every tax payer enjoyed the benefits of Reagan's tax cuts and "Reagan's tax cuts for the wealthy" is nothing more than liberal Democrat mantra.

32 posted on 11/01/2015 10:31:17 AM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: . IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: CondorFlight

We now have a democracy. And, that’s a big problem.


33 posted on 11/01/2015 10:43:01 AM PST by SuzyQue
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To: MadIsh32; Georgia Girl 2
[Social Security] is 100% welfare.

The money that young people put in today does not go into some account for them to access.

It goes directly to pay for the above 65 year old crowd in this country that will leech off those born after 1970 for the next 30-40 years

Do you have any idea how intellectually lazy such a statement reveals you to be?

Welfare is, by definition, something for nothing -- other than existing. AFDC and Section 8, that's welfare. Social Security is a social compact -- you pay in now, you get paid later.

And, while you are correct that Social Security is today nothing more than a transfer payment -- from the young to the old -- that is not due to any action on the part of the old. It is, instead, a corruption of the system traceable solely to the actions of Lyndon Baines Johnson and his Democrat party, followed by most subsequent Congresses and Administrations.

Nonetheless, when they were young, the old paid in. They're not getting something for nothing. They fulfilled their side of the deal.

Now, it's up to you.

But, please, think first -- before you write...and reveal your ignorance.

34 posted on 11/01/2015 10:46:50 AM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: . IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: MadIsh32

actually, no.
There’s an incentive to delay SS retirement, to receive up to approx. 8% a year more, past Full Retirement Age.
In the scenario given, the guy who works 10 more years will get more.


35 posted on 11/01/2015 11:05:55 AM PST by stylin19a (obama = Fredo Smart)
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To: CondorFlight

I like it, CondorFlight.


36 posted on 11/01/2015 11:26:39 AM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: MadIsh32

i mis-read the scenario. same age, same income same retirement date. One worked 10 years more than the other ( started working 10 years earlier than the other)
yes, they’d get the same benefit.


37 posted on 11/01/2015 11:58:23 AM PST by stylin19a (obama = Fredo Smart)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Social Security is not welfare in case you didn’t know.

You've bought the propaganda.

38 posted on 11/01/2015 1:37:06 PM PST by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the GOPee does not want you.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Unfortunately, that’s not true.


39 posted on 11/01/2015 1:40:37 PM PST by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the GOPee does not want you.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Its not really that hard to fix but it will take some guts to ignore the screaming from the left and the MSM when you do it.

Just like the border problem. Cut off the freebies for the parasites and locust invaders and balance would self-restore.

The problem is that the situation has been purposely created to drive demand, instill dependency, and fund/establish/enable an goverment machine to control every aspect of society. Power for the sake of power.

At this point of the game, any pol who appears to want to *genuinely* fix things through honest principles is 1) hopelessly naive and will get eaten alive, 2) easily corrupted or blackmailed into compliance, and/or 3) a deceiver playing the role of "good cop".

This can be discerned because the problem, as you said, *is not really that hard to fix*. So, why don't they fix it? They lie when they claim to have solutions to middle class woes.

The pols dance to the tune of those who are paying them to perform. If it were the American taxpayers and citizens - IOW the legitimate voters who have a natural stake in maintaining a healthy system - pols would fear the ire and wrath of the responsible citizenry. They don't. Instead, they flaunt their support for every destructive element that has infested American society - leeches, invaders, perverts, criminals, PC enforcers and all other lovers of lies and lawlessness.

Those are the folks they desire to please so as not to lose their power. Conclusion - their positions of power are not determined by the lawful voter, but by outside forces and legal voters who have become so utterly corrupted that their definition of responibility is to hire pols to steal from their fellow citizens.

SS is particularly insidious because it was established as an involuntary social contract, ultimately pitting generation against generation. Now enter Obamacare, pitting the young against the old, the healthy against the sick, the morally sound against the mentally degenerate.

A house divided against itself cannot stand. How "convenient" for the agents of change.

My theory is that the Day of the Lord is only delayed because there are way too many millstones still on back order. And that Hell is going to need a bigger mouth.

40 posted on 11/01/2015 3:04:28 PM PST by Ezekiel (All who mourn the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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