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Ted Cruz is just another smarmy politician
Libertarian Neocon ^ | libertarian neocon

Posted on 08/26/2015 6:26:21 AM PDT by libertarian neocon

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To: libertarian neocon

To the typical voter who saw this interview it won’t seem like a carefully calculated response to a “gotcha question”, it will just be another politician who can’t or won’t answer a simple question that the public is obviously interested in. Then they will hear Trump who can and will.

Cruz blew it.


21 posted on 08/26/2015 6:50:08 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: ziravan

When it comes to loaded questions, nobody can load them quite as heavily or destructively as Megyn Kelly does. She would do a fine job of rigging IEDs as roadside bombs.

That aside, I rather LIKE Megyn, as she is FEARLESS when it comes to confronting power in whatever form. This, dear people, is what vetting the candidates is all about. It takes an equally fearless opponent to come out of such a face-off still standing up and moving under one’s own power.

Ted Cruz probably acquitted himself reasonably well, and if he can withstand this kind of withering fire, he has it so much easier when facing most of the “competition” that is out there.

Just once, I would like to see how Herself, Madame Benghazi, the Cold & Joyless, would bear up under the kind of scrutiny that is routinely dished out to Republicans. And Megyn is just the kind of person who would open up these hidden pools of corruption that fester just beneath the surface.

Ain’t pretty, but DAMN if it would not be interesting.


22 posted on 08/26/2015 6:50:20 AM PDT by alloysteel (If Stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out? - Will Rogers.)
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To: libertarian neocon

Ted’s been carrying the water for true conservatives for the past 8 years. Now Trump has barreled in and stole the thunder from everybody. I’m not going to jump ship and join the Trump bandwagon just yet. Ted has the intellectual tour de force to put Trumps ideas into action!


23 posted on 08/26/2015 6:50:29 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment (Proud member of the 48% . . giver not a taker)
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To: 9YearLurker

Try this,

Being in America illegally is a crime, if a child’s parents robbed a bank, should we let them go free because of the children. But, of course, you know Megyn, these are the type of loaded gotcha questions that journalists would never ask democrats, and this is exactly why your Facebook and emails were overloaded with comments recently. Fox prides itself on fair and balanced. You should try that, sometime.


24 posted on 08/26/2015 6:51:28 AM PDT by ziravan (Didn't think it needed a /sarc)
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To: KC_Lion

We’re overrun with concern trolls this morning.

Me, I’m a discern troll.


25 posted on 08/26/2015 6:51:29 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: libertarian neocon

It would be helpful if you disclosed who you support and why before foisting a hit piece on FR as objective.

Freepers’ are not low info voters and crap like your “vanity” puke is offensive.


26 posted on 08/26/2015 6:52:15 AM PDT by Eddie01
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To: libertarian neocon

I have only read your account. So just going by that.

But with that, I think there could be a different take.

He has said before that he agrees with the jurisprudence on birthright citizenship. That is definitely the majority opinion (not saying it is right...I’m very familiar with the contrary opinion). This is current “constitutional law” (as in the majority of judges/opinions are here). He has said he agrees with it.

He is now saying that as a matter of policy it doesn’t make sense.

That’s perfectly compatible. Our current policy needs can absolutely not square with constitutional law. At that point you have to change the constitution.

That “could” be all that he is saying.

I don’t know how else you would talk about the issue, if you think that our current reality shouldn’t allow birthright citizenship, but you think that the constitution does require it. You would have to say just exactly that.

That’s my take at least, again, just after reading your account.


27 posted on 08/26/2015 6:52:15 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: vbmoneyspender

I thought that was a valid point myself but no. They’re not subject to the jurisdiction of the US.


28 posted on 08/26/2015 6:52:28 AM PDT by Hiro Protaginast
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To: libertarian neocon

Cruz did fine. He answered the question despite being interrupted more than 4 times by Kelly demanding a Yes or No answer to a complex question that doesn’t have yes or no for an answer.

Cruz’s answer was “first we build the wall, then we can start the dialog about what to do with the current illegals.” [paraphrased]

If you saw anything different, then you weren’t being objective.


29 posted on 08/26/2015 6:52:30 AM PDT by Fhios (Simplicity is often mistaken for genius.)
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To: ziravan

Doesn’t really address the issue of forced deportations for the children. Now, I would find a way to get it done and them out of here, but Cruz is actually for legalization and not for deportation.


30 posted on 08/26/2015 6:53:09 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: libertarian neocon

If your so freaking brilliant about how to be pure and true, then get off your ass and run for President.


31 posted on 08/26/2015 6:53:15 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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To: libertarian neocon

Free Republic is less and less useful as a reliable source as we get into the election cycle because trolls from each camp get on to trash rival candidates. My rule is not to believe any of them and do my own research. And incidentally, who in the world is watching Mz Kelly’s show after her disastrous performance at the first debate?


32 posted on 08/26/2015 6:53:18 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Fhios

That’s not an answer.

IMO voters have a right to hear what candidates policies would be if they were elected into office. I’m okay with deferring until they’ve released a detailed position paper, if they have not been faced with the issue in their previous positions.

But “Let’s get X done before I tell you what I would do about Y” is IMO not acceptable.


33 posted on 08/26/2015 6:54:59 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Fhios

Yep. Stop the bleeding first, get a good look at the patient, and then work on curing the disease.

Short of being a dictator, that’s the most anyone will be able to do no matter how loudly they say otherwise.


34 posted on 08/26/2015 6:55:14 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: Scrambler Bob

I agree. Liberals play at this as a justification but it exists only in their minds and on bravado...pure BS effrontery, IMO.

‘Reside’ and ‘residence’ and ‘subject to jurisdiction of’ can take on very specific requirements in the legal world.

That language I’ve noted isn’t in the amendment just for sh!ts and giggles. They mean something, and to me they mean that some “drive-by” illegal cow dropping a load here doesn’t qualify the load to become a citizen.

Illegally here, illegally occupying here (not ‘residing’ in a legal sense) and certain not ‘under the jurisdiction’ of this country as a citizen enjoying the rights and freedoms of citizenship.


35 posted on 08/26/2015 6:56:08 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: libertarian neocon

The great Princeton Debater.


36 posted on 08/26/2015 6:56:34 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: libertarian neocon
You forgot Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article

Section 5 gives Congress the power to declare anchor babies non-citizens. Allow anchor babies to become US citizens is insane.

37 posted on 08/26/2015 6:59:27 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: libertarian neocon

It does not seem to me that he actually changed his position at all. He did NOT say that birthright citizenship was not in the 14th Amendment. He said that the POLICY no longer makes sense. He then went on to offer two ways of making the LAW conform with what he thinks makes sense for POLICY - a Constitutional Amendment or a law by Congress clarifying what is meant by “jurisdiction”. It is not inconsistent to say yeah the law says this, it doesn’t make sense, here is how I would change it. Here’s the video link for full context. Totally disagree with your premise.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/08/25/ted-cruz-not-happy-with-question-from-megyn-kelly-says-its-what-liberal-journalist-would-ask/


38 posted on 08/26/2015 6:59:33 AM PDT by rightthinkingwoman
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To: libertarian neocon

Ted has no obligation to answer loaded questions.

Just as with “life of the mother” or “rape and incest” when it comes to abortion, these are bogus excuses to justify the unbridled practice.

If you Build the Wall, control entry, use E-Verify, and actively return those entering illegally, Deport the criminals, stop taxpayer funded benefits, then the incentives stop, and large numbers self-deport.

This all will take time, but after 3 or 4 years there will be millions fewer to consider for deportation.


39 posted on 08/26/2015 7:01:20 AM PDT by G Larry (Obama is replicating the instruments of the fall of Rome)
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To: libertarian neocon
It is no less clear than "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

That clause in the 14th is far less clear than the clause you quote from the 2nd.

Mainly because people read it wrong and assume that 'United States' is a geographical idea. It is not. It is jurisdictional.

Here are the words of the man who wrote that clause in the 14th, Senator Jacob Howard. He explained the actual intent of the 14th Amendment. He said:

“Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country.”

40 posted on 08/26/2015 7:01:52 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Democracy is not freedom. Democracy is simply majoritarianism. It is incompatible with real freedom.)
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