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Ted Nugent Expresses Support for Man Who Killed Lion
abcnews.go.com ^ | Jul 31, 2015 | ap

Posted on 07/31/2015 11:43:22 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

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Everybody is hunting something.
1 posted on 07/31/2015 11:43:22 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Lynyrd Skynyrd - On The Hunt (studio version)
2 posted on 07/31/2015 11:45:21 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper
My Bow and Arrow -- Ted Nugent
3 posted on 07/31/2015 11:50:49 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Me and My Arrow: Harry Nilsson


4 posted on 07/31/2015 11:58:50 PM PDT by lee martell (The sag)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Personally i don’t think we should be killing things like Lions and Tigers and Bears (oh my), unless we have to kill them in order to protect people from getting eaten by some of them.

As Top level predators ourselves consider I think we should consider it a “professional courtesy”.

We also shouldn’t kill some animals that exhibit human like traits in intelligence like great apes, elephants, whales, etc... And certain animals we have domesticated like kitty cats and puppy dogs either

That being said I I am not gonna lose any sleep over a safari hunter like the jerk dentist (luring the animal out of the reserve was a “jerkass homer” move) , I just think he is a jerk.

No law against being a jerk.

And there should never be, ever a law against being a jerk.


5 posted on 08/01/2015 12:18:19 AM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

If the dentist relocates to my area, my family will switch to using him.


6 posted on 08/01/2015 12:24:15 AM PDT by fso301
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As a result, the country saw an increase in white rhinos from fewer than one hundred individuals to more than 11,000,
7 posted on 08/01/2015 12:26:02 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: GraceG

“As Top level predators ourselves consider I think we should consider it a “professional courtesy”.

What if I throw your troll ass into a lion’s cage? Would you bet your life that the lion will give you “professional courtesy”?


8 posted on 08/01/2015 12:28:40 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Berlin_Freeper
He said getting upset about Cecil but not other lions "is disingenuous and tragically dishonest."

True enough. I don't care if people choose to hunt non-endangered animals, though hunting isn't my thing. But lions could go extinct in the wild by 2050 if current trends hold. I don't care if the government of Zimbabwe or other dysfunctional Third World kleptocracies allows hunters to kill rare animals - a responsible person would refrain.
9 posted on 08/01/2015 12:30:54 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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I wonder what the reaction would have been if this story ran instead?

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/594798/Walter-Palmer-Huntress-Kendall-Jones-killed-endangered-big-five


10 posted on 08/01/2015 12:38:27 AM PDT by Rodney Dangerfield (I stopped drinking the Trump Kool-Aid July 25th and will support Ted Cruz for POTUS)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smithsonian–Roosevelt_African_Expedition

11 posted on 08/01/2015 12:39:32 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: fso301

Me too.


12 posted on 08/01/2015 1:20:21 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

I did not know extinction was a possibility. Great news. Thanks for sharing.


13 posted on 08/01/2015 1:22:15 AM PDT by MarMema
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If they no longer allow the hunting of big game like lions and big cats, they will become extinct even faster. The big game are worth a great deal of money and are protected in order to be hunted. The governments have a vested interest to protect them. So do the local populous. When that incentive is removed, the animals become a nuisance and are quickly killed by the locals.

It is simply a fact that hunters are particularly interested in the propagation of large game so that their will be sufficient numbers to continue to hunt.

14 posted on 08/01/2015 1:37:29 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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No. Because the lion is a savage predator it would soonrr eat me like a gazelle. I am not a tofu eating moron. i did grow up on a farm. Hunting prey animals is fine in my opinion as is hunting vermin animals and predators that eat livestock.

I just don’t think it was ethical to lure a lion out of a preserve in order to fulfill the dr. Livingston fantasy of some schmuck. If it was a lion the guy killed in the wild in a hunting area i would be perfectly fine with it. If his “guides” screwed up punish them and not this denist guy. I defended the one teenage gal that took media hell for killing animals in africa a year ago on this very site.

We as himans sould and are better than that. I personally just dont think we should be killing top level predators like lions and tigers and eagles if it can be avoided. Note that i said IF IT CAN BE AVOIDED. Just because i would personally kill a lion for sport doesn’t mean i would want you from doing so.

As for callling me a troll that is most disrespectful and if you knew me you would be ashamed for calling a down to earth country gal something disrespectful like me that.


15 posted on 08/01/2015 2:06:32 AM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: max americana

Please rerereread my original post and my response to you. I think you missed something the first time you read it and your knee jerked up and hit the underside of you keyboard.


16 posted on 08/01/2015 2:09:55 AM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: Jim from C-Town

I agree with the hunt to preserve paradigm but this animal’s hunt was “dubious” as it was a tracked animal that was lured. I an fine with others hunting them as long as it is legitimate and does indeed help preserve the species. I just wont be shooting them myself as i hold a personal opinion about not wanting to kill another top predator.


17 posted on 08/01/2015 2:15:13 AM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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I’m with you, except the jerk dentist did also break the law—and he should pay for it.


18 posted on 08/01/2015 2:26:06 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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I would imagine that the threat of extinction for most animals is not the fairly rare legal hunter (rich white guy that can afford the huge fees), but is poaching and probably more so habitat destruction due to increasing population and/or expansion of civilization.

In a lot of places the legal hunts pay for the game wardens that protect the animals from poachers. Legal hunts also promote the landowners management of their land for the animal (in order to make money off the hunts).:

http://conservationmagazine.org/2014/01/can-trophy-hunting-reconciled-conservation/

“Leader-Williams describes how the legalization of white rhinoceros hunting in South Africa motivated private landowners to reintroduce the species onto their lands. As a result, the country saw an increase in white rhinos from fewer than one hundred individuals to more than 11,000, even while a limited number were killed as trophies.”


19 posted on 08/01/2015 2:27:13 AM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: 9YearLurker

Agree.

If the guy’s guides did it and lied to the dentist. Punish the guides only. If the dentist was a knowing participant then punish him with the guides.

This is akin to someone “baiting” deer here in the usa. Im not a deer hunter but i think it carries a serious fine.

I grew up on farm so we always had a love/hate relationship with hunters. Some were awesome decent folk who always asked politely to hunt and repected our cattle and property, some acted like self important entitled jerks who demanded to hunt and did crap like leaving gates open and scaring / endabgering our cows. Guess who we told to pound sand. Eventually my parents only let certain close friends and family hunt.... too many moron jerkasses ruined it for everyone.

My brothers hunted coyotes and raccoons. Two animals the world could do with less of.


20 posted on 08/01/2015 2:41:30 AM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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