Posted on 06/29/2015 8:23:31 AM PDT by don-o
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Your momma!
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oh yea -
Your momma!
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“Arguing on the merits is not in their skill set”
Mirror, mirror on the wall........ who shirks the merits?
It is don0 I tell you true.
Sir William Blackstone was one of the sources for the Founders and died in 1780
Does anyone in the commentariat know anything about history anymore?
Can we maybe ascribe that as a typo - 1760’s?
AJNTSA
Boogieman has made it clear that motorcycles are the tool of the devil in his mind, and that riding one is proof that an individual is both a drug dealer and a Pimp.
He is like the people who bought into Nifong’s bullsh!t early in the Duke LaCrosse hoax and who insist to this day that “whatever they did was bad enough.”
Who may have been legal concealed carriers, legally welding a weapon in self-defense. Eighteen more were also wounded.
As time goes by it looks more and more like the cops simply decided to shoot everyone with a weapon, disregarding the principle that self-defense is a right of the citizenry.
The people still defending the initial one million dollar bonds have - to a man - pretty much insisted that self defense is not a right of the citizenry.
Update #2 is missing now too.
Why would they even bother? Unless there is bad info in the scrubbed updates?
Were they criminals? I mean you can keep saying it over and over, but that doesn't make it a fact. Are you aware that it's been reported by new organizations in Texas (who did actual research) that 2/3 of those arrested had no previous arrest records.
Is the CoC a "criminal front group" as you keep insisting, or is it a loose grouping of clubs that span a wide range from criminal to non-criminal, as many have claimed in news reports? Your (and your doppleganger TexasGator) insist that merely attending an event sponsored by a large umbrella organization makes those attending the equivalent of soldiers in the mob. But, again, the news reports down seem to align with that. THere was at least one Christian biking brotherhood, a ex-military club, and a club dedicated to restoring antique bikes at the event.
The article does a good job of explaining which of their rights have been violated.
One assumes the "Christ's Disciples" and "Christ's Crusaders" Christian clubs, possibly as are Resurrection. The VietNam Vets and Marines appear to be made up of veterans.
“Were they criminals?”
I was responding to a poster who used that language, so I used it too. He later objected to it (though he used it himself), so I agreed to call them “alleged criminals”. Does that make you feel better?
“Is the CoC a “criminal front group” as you keep insisting, or is it a loose grouping of clubs that span a wide range from criminal to non-criminal, as many have claimed in news reports?”
It’s a criminal front group. Yes, there are “non-outlaw” clubs that may be members, but the COCs are all, without exception, run by the largest outlaw gang in the state, and they extort money from the “non-outlaw” clubs to fund their operations.
“Your (and your doppleganger TexasGator) insist that merely attending an event sponsored by a large umbrella organization makes those attending the equivalent of soldiers in the mob.”
I’ve never insisted any such thing.
The article does a good job of explaining which of their rights have been violated.
“[t]he right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures”
Not sure how this right was supposedly violated, as they were all arrested after officers witnessed crimes being committed, so there was no need for a search warrant.
“The right to reasonable bail and speedy trial”
Those rights haven’t been violated. They were assigned bail similar to other people accused of similar crimes, and their trials are progressing at the same pace as people accused of similar crimes.
“And of course, the right to life, if it turns out the LEOs killed some of the victims without it being legitimate self=defense. “
There is also a right to kill in order to protect the lives of others, and this right especially applies to police officers. Besides, we don’t even know yet who the police killed, and for what reason, so it’s too premature to try to claim any violation here.
And who is running the Washington COC, pray tell?
Is it one of those Christian or Vet MCs? Or does it happen to be, by some strange coincidence, the largest outlaw gang in the state?
The fact that some non-criminals might be members doesn’t disprove that it is a criminal front group. In fact, it is highly desirable to have non-criminals in your front group. That’s kind of the whole point of having a front group, to make it look like a legitimate organization while still furthering your criminal operations.
“By killing 8 or 9 people.”
Most were killed by the bikers.
“There is no point debating idiots pushing these conspiracies. They do not respond to logic or facts.”
Even though every biker that was there and has gone public has stated that the gunfight started among the bikers we still have people pushing that the cops ambushed the bikers.
Bikers on the scene commend the police for their actions.
Peter Graves, Bandidos officer and TCOC president at the Waco shooting, says they respect the police for doing their job.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_sCRg69TQE
(Big John Snyder, Vice president of the Boozefighters at the Waco shooting) “The police were professional, considering the situation they were in. They were professional and doing their job,” he said.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-waco-biker-20150519-story.html
We have also heard from a biker family member that the police probably saved lives at Waco.
” Yes, there are “non-outlaw” clubs that may be members,”
Without joining and paying the extortion fees, they are ‘informed’ that they are not ‘welcome’ on the open road.
Yup, unless they are lucky enough to get an “exemption”, they have to pay the protection money to the COC. It’s a racket.
And the rest of the 4th related to probable cause. That one was shredded.
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