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Game Changer OR Paradigm Shift ?--Walter Scott Shooting: Enhanced Video Shows Officer Slager With...
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | 4/12/15 | sundance

Posted on 04/12/2015 3:58:09 AM PDT by IChing

On the first day we saw the North Charleston, South Carolina, shooting video of Walter Scott by Officer Michael Slager we were as shocked as everyone. However, as research now indicates there is much more to the story.

What we cover here in the latest update might just change the entire way the story continues…

(Excerpt) Read more at theconservativetreehouse.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: copbashersonfr; copbashingonfr; donutwatch; michaelslager; northcharleston; rushtojudgment; southcarolina; tasers; walterscott; walterscottshooting
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To: driftless2
He is a fleeing criminal. They can be legally shot.

Have you been drinking?

141 posted on 04/12/2015 6:32:21 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: X-spurt

Bingo! Someone gets it. It’s about Slager’s reasonable perception of the situation, and if he truly believed Scott still had control of the taser, after he had already chased and fought with him over several hundred yards(and perhaps even had his own taser used against him), then he did not have the guilty mind that the lynch mob is howling about.


142 posted on 04/12/2015 6:32:56 AM PDT by IChing
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To: USNBandit

Thanks for the info


143 posted on 04/12/2015 6:33:05 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: LuvFreeRepublic

Treeper comments are usually part of the meat of the investigation as well.


144 posted on 04/12/2015 6:33:44 AM PDT by IChing
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To: driftless2

If he shot the officer with a taser taken from the officer, it is not only a good shooting, but the officer is lucky to be alive. Had the taser been effective on the officer the next thing would be a perp with a Glock 9 and an officer with a bullet to the head.


145 posted on 04/12/2015 6:34:02 AM PDT by anton
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To: IChing

If there were a bunch of other people around and the area wasn’t secure he may have been trying to make sure a by-stander didn’t pick up the taser.


146 posted on 04/12/2015 6:34:49 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: driftless2

Um, no, not necessarily, and not usually.


147 posted on 04/12/2015 6:35:35 AM PDT by IChing
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To: IChing

I am afraid you don’t understand murder. Where is the mitigating circumstance that reduces this to manslaughter? The victim is fifty feet away and still running when the officer takes deliberate aim and shoots him five times in the back. Premeditation can occur in an instant. I would argue that somewhere between the first and the fifth shot the officer had to reflect on what was happening and make the consioious decision to kill the man. That’s first degree murder.


148 posted on 04/12/2015 6:36:00 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: IChing

Thanks for posting this information. The enhanced videos are helpful.

I remember the Tree House folks from the Zimmerman case.

They’re the real deal.


149 posted on 04/12/2015 6:36:24 AM PDT by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Crim

I do think the object was the taser. It just doesn’t look like Slager was the one who threw it down. It appears to me that Scott had it and threw it.

Not sure what to make of Slager’s moving the taser. Seems damning but I’m going to wait for more info.


150 posted on 04/12/2015 6:36:57 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: conservativejoy

Totally agree. When an officer has someone under arrest, uses a command instruction to stop or be shot, that’s it as far as I’m concerned. Running from the cops, on foot on in the car, is the most dangerous thing that can happen to bystanders and innocents.


151 posted on 04/12/2015 6:37:14 AM PDT by anton
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To: Thumper1960

Reading your disconnected post, I ask.
Where did you get your Critical Thinking card? The grocery store bubblegum dispenser?

Once the perp assaults the cop, the cop is then charged (no pun intended) to PREVENT further and potentially deadly assault on the cop or any other person.


152 posted on 04/12/2015 6:38:38 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: Yardstick

The taser is his police weapon just like his Glock. And, it was on the ground out of his control. He needed to recover it from wherever it was dropped first and foremost. Before CPR, before anything else. Guaranty it is standard police training.


153 posted on 04/12/2015 6:39:17 AM PDT by anton
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To: PUGACHEV

You just proved that you’re the one who doesn’t have the slightest grasp of the legal definitions involved, and being right now on a fishing trip with my wife and son, I’d better not bother myself to try to lecture you on them. Good luck to you in figuring the precise meanings out.


154 posted on 04/12/2015 6:40:43 AM PDT by IChing
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To: Drango
I'm not making this up. If a person suspected of assaulting another person (or committing some violent crime), yes, by the standards set by the Supreme Court, that fleeing person/suspect can be shot by the police.

Read the rest of my comments. I said what happened does not necessarily exonerate the cop. But he was assaulted by Mr. Scott. If I assault a cop then flee, I have a reasonable expectation that the cop might shoot me. What do you think a cop might do after you've assaulted him? Blow kisses at you. Use your head.

155 posted on 04/12/2015 6:43:33 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: Vermont Lt
So what you are saying that it is OK to shoot someone fleeing, in the back?

If you believe he was armed with your weapon?

156 posted on 04/12/2015 6:45:31 AM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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To: PUGACHEV

Damn, this sure seems to drag out the purist libertarians!


157 posted on 04/12/2015 6:47:26 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: Vermont Lt

It’s a question of murder, firstly. If you watch the video, there is a struggle. If Slager pulls his weapon and fires as an immediate extension of that struggle, regardless of the guy running away *just then*, it’s more of a manslaughter act due to the fact that Slager is in the heat of the moment due to a very serious assault.

Second, there are circumstances where cops can shoot a fleeing suspect in the back if they feel the suspect poses significant deadly risk to the public. Given the limited knowledge Slager had of the suspect, which may wholly consist of, “I pulled this guy over for a traffic stop, he fled, then attacked me, took my taser and tried to shoot me with it...”

Who does that except extremely dangerous people?


158 posted on 04/12/2015 6:47:32 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: Thumper1960

I think anyone fleeing a police officer should know they will be shot. If that policy were in place, it would put the responsibility for their own lives squarely on the shoulders of the person being questioned. It would also protect innocent bystanders. There was no reason for Mr. Scott to flee the scene. If he hadn’t he would still be alive.


159 posted on 04/12/2015 6:47:56 AM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: IChing
If I'm lawfully ordered to surrender by a policeman, then I engage in a struggle with the cop where I either beat the cop or take his weapon, and then I flee, shouldn't I expect to be shot at by the policeman?

A few days ago in the wake of this incident, I read an article where the Supreme Court ruled on this type of matter some years ago, and declared a cop could shoot a fleeing suspect...even if the suspect might not be armed.

But even if they hadn't ruled on it or said it was legal, if I put a beating on a cop, take the cop's gun or taser and use it on the cop, then run, like I said, I shouldn't be surprised if the cop takes a shot at me.

160 posted on 04/12/2015 6:48:02 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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