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MT: Governor Bullock Vetoes Constitutional Carry
Gun Watch ^ | 30 March, 2015 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 03/30/2015 4:53:21 AM PDT by marktwain



Governor Bullock (D) of Montana vetoed constitutional carry, HB 298.   It seems that he did so on Friday the 27th of March.  He did not give a good reason for the veto; he simply applied the "we require a permit for everything else" excuse.  Perhaps we need to rethink this excessive requirement for permission from the state before we engage in our daily lives.  Five states have constitutional carry, and there is no evidence that it causes any problems.  Governor Bullock recommended that the gun muffler reform in HB 250 be improved to include all legal hunting.  It is unknown if there will be time for the legislature to amend the bill, pass the bill again, and return it to the Governor.   From greatfallstribune.com:

Bullock also vetoed House Bill 298, sponsored by Rep. Bill Harris, R-Winnett, which he said would eliminate Montana's concealed weapons permit process and is an "absurd concept that threatens the safety of our communities by not providing for the basic fundamentals of gun safety or mental health screening."
Governor Bullock is, at a minimum, mistaken.  HB 298 would not have eliminated Montana's concealed weapons permit process.  It would only have removed legal restrictions from carrying concealed without a permit.  The permit system itself would not have been changed.  It should be noted that if we agreed with the Governor's assumptions about the nature of reality, then no one would be allowed to own a firearm without Government permission.   It is hard to believe that Governor Bullock does not know that his "absurd concept" is the law in over 98 percent of Montana, and has been for some time. 

It is unlikely that there will be any attempt to override the veto.  HB 298 passed with strong margins, but far from veto proof ones.  The bill passed the Senate 28 to 21.  It passed the House 56 to 43.   

Governor Bullock won a squeaker of an election in 2012 with 48.9 percent of the vote, while the Republican candidate received 47.3%.  The Libertarian candidate got 1.75% of the vote, more than twice the difference between the two major candidates of 7,571 votes. 

Governors are a target in gutting popular gun reforms because they are a focal point where media pressure and billionaire money can be brought to bear.   It may be that a similar phenomena occurs when local officials go to federal office.  Suddenly, the focus of the old media is on them, and all the power of the progressive establishment it used to convert or defeat them.

If you must ask the government for a permission, it is no longer a right.  Governor Bullock joins Governor Tomblin (D) of West Virginia, who also vetoed a constitutional carry bill this year.

One Democrat Governor, Governor Beebe of Arkansas, has signed a constitutional carry bill that restored carry rights to what they were when the Bill of Rights was ratified.  But there is good evidence that he did so by accident.  Some Republicans have vetoed constitutional carry bills, notably in South Dakota and Utah.  But Republican Governors have signed constitutional carry bills in Alaska, Arizona, and Wyoming.  The Kansas constitutional carry bill will be going to Governor Brownback soon.

 ©2015 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice is included.
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TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; constitutionalcarry; governorbullock; montana; mt
A Democrat Governor of Montana vetoes constitutional carry on the grounds that it is an "absurd concept" when it is already the law in 98% of the state.

A classic example of "how can we fool them today?"

1 posted on 03/30/2015 4:53:21 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
He's a 'rat. They'll smile, and smile, and stab you in the back.

Voting for 'rats is immoral.

2 posted on 03/30/2015 4:55:34 AM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: marktwain

Maybe it’s time you got rid of all kinds of other government permissions for human activity. Liberty marches on.


3 posted on 03/30/2015 5:02:43 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: marktwain

This is what happens when you vote for a RAT.


4 posted on 03/30/2015 5:03:18 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (#JuSuisCharlesMartel)
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To: marktwain

Bullock will also join Tomblin in soon being former governors..


5 posted on 03/30/2015 5:05:33 AM PDT by ken5050 (If Hillary is elected president, what role will Huma Abedin have in the White House? Scary, eh?)
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To: ken5050

Possibly the LIB idiot MT voters thought they were voting for Sandra bullock?


6 posted on 03/30/2015 5:42:41 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: marktwain

I have been thinking about this issue.

In MASS we have a pretty restrictive carry process. While the state is an Open Carry state, you would insane to walk around with a pistol hanging off your hip.

I figure it this way. I have a firearm in my vehicle at all times. I have firearms in my house at all times.

I live in a low crime area. Concealed Carry is not a big issue for me (other than the legality of it.)

That said, when the time comes where Concealed Carry is a necessity people will carry. But by the time that happens, I hope to be in the big red truck and out of the area.

With the fools running things, that the is least we can do. I am an Eagle Scout from a long way back. Be Prepared is still part of my mantra.


7 posted on 03/30/2015 5:55:50 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (When you are inclined to to buy storage boxes, but contractor bags instead.)
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To: marktwain

“we require a permit for everything else”
Is this ass clown afraid of losing the registration fees?
He should be afraid of losing his damned job.

Most old time Montanans are damned fed up with the new arrivals mostly from Seattle, Portland and damned Calif.
Libs all.


8 posted on 03/30/2015 6:09:45 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ( Obammy is a lie, a mooselimb and pond scum.)
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To: marktwain

I don’t remember seeing the word “permit” in the 2nd amendment. I do remember seeing the words “shall not be infringed” though. Thankfully, our rights derive from God, not governors or other men.


9 posted on 03/30/2015 6:16:36 AM PDT by lakecumberlandvet (APPEASEMENT NEVER WORKS.)
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Governor Bullock won a squeaker of an election in 2012 with 48.9 percent of the vote, while the Republican candidate received 47.3%. The Libertarian candidate got 1.75% of the vote, more than twice the difference between the two major candidates of 7,571 votes.

I was wondering how in heck MT could be a Dimocrat state.

10 posted on 03/30/2015 6:37:38 AM PDT by citizen (A liberal is someone who doesnÂ’t care what you do - as long as itÂ’s mandatory.)
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To: marktwain
I think the Governor's point is that you can already carry concealed in 98% of the state right now without a permit.

Concealed carry in Montana is defined as concealed by an article of clothing. Anyone can carry in a backpack, fannypack, purse, rolled up towel or brown paper bag without a permit.

Only within city limits is a permit required to carry concealed ... < 2% of our state. Once we get a Republican Governor we will have Constitutional Carry. In the meantime we are a shall issue state.

11 posted on 03/30/2015 6:43:14 AM PDT by Comment Not Approved (When bureaucrats outlaw hunting, outlaws will hunt bureaucrats.)
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To: marktwain

My first libertarian bumper sticker:

“Legalize Freedom”


12 posted on 03/30/2015 6:54:27 AM PDT by muir_redwoods ("He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative." G.K .C)
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To: marktwain

What propelled a Democrat to the governship in Montana? I always had the impression it was an independence minded state.


13 posted on 03/30/2015 7:05:34 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: School of Rational Thought

Democrats have been always strong up there due to miner’s union.


14 posted on 03/30/2015 7:07:55 AM PDT by KC Burke (Ceterum censeo Islam esse delendam)
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To: marktwain

Whenever there is an “importance of licensure” argument, it reminds me of a statement by the chief of the Florida Highway Patrol.

He estimated that 300,000 or more Floridians drove without proper drivers licenses, and efforts to apprehend them clogged the court system and accomplished little or nothing, because, he said, licensing bears no relationship with good driving. He continued by saying that he wanted the emphasis of the Highway Patrol to be getting bad drivers off the street, instead of fussing about whether drives were properly licensed or not.

He was told to hush up about it. As it turns out, drivers licenses have little or nothing to do with safety, but are tools of government control over the citizenry. Bureaucrats adore them as a form of identification, and because they associate a person with a home address and vehicle, it makes them much easier to control.

I mention this because the same bureaucratic rationale is used for gun licenses. Gun licenses have nothing to do with safety, and everything to do with control.


15 posted on 03/30/2015 7:21:44 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: marktwain
Governor Bullock (D) of Montana vetoed constitutional carry, HB 298.

I love it! This virtually guarantees that Montana will go Repub in November. Oh, and there's a new party in MT that very likely won't be supporting Governor Bully either....


16 posted on 04/01/2015 8:31:29 AM PDT by archy
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