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President Ted Cruz’s dystopian America: The scorched hellscape of a climate-denying White House
Salon ^ | March 27, 2015 | Lindsay Abrams

Posted on 03/27/2015 8:34:10 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Same old liberal playbook, just different scares. No different than Republicans wanting to throw Granny into the street, starve poor kids by cutting school lunch and give us all dirty water and dirty air.


41 posted on 03/27/2015 8:54:37 AM PDT by The Great RJ (Pants up...Don't loot!)
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To: cripplecreek

LOL. I feel your pain.


42 posted on 03/27/2015 8:54:42 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wow, Senator Ted Cruz doesn’t believe in the Holy climate change! It’s our religion at Salon! He either should convert to our Sacred religion or be put to death! Klimate Jihad!!!

Holy crap, the climate changes every day. And we are small creatures in the universe and have pretty much zero effect on it.

This chick hasn’t seen his slam down of the interviewer on climate change. That was brilliant.


43 posted on 03/27/2015 8:54:44 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good word “distopian” I guess the implication is we were on our way to creating a Utopian Society? That is until that Cruz guy came along and messed it all up?


44 posted on 03/27/2015 8:55:22 AM PDT by Leep (Ronney/McCain 2016!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hmmph. A bunch more reasons to support his candidacy.


45 posted on 03/27/2015 8:56:16 AM PDT by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Dystopian ?
46 posted on 03/27/2015 8:56:22 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("If he were working for the other side, what would he be doing differently ?")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Two “basic tenents” of science are the scientific method and peer review.

Neither seem to exist with climateology. Computer simulations aren’t “science”, at least not by themselves. And when they are looked at with observational data in a somewhat scientific way (does anyone have that great graph showing how the actual data has stacked up against the simulations over the last 20 years or so?), the models fall to pieces.

As to peer review, look at how belief in global warming has become dogmatized within the scientific community, and how they treat apostates. A Who was that well-respected climateologist who last year said that while global warming exists and is manmade, the models were off by 50%, and got completely crucified for doing so? A culture of bullying and intimidation is not one that supports legitimate peer review.


47 posted on 03/27/2015 8:57:17 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: nascarnation
My scorched dying hellscape.


48 posted on 03/27/2015 8:57:18 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
bizarro world in which Ted Cruz is president

As opposed to......the current crazy world with the jug-eared jackass in the WH.

49 posted on 03/27/2015 8:57:19 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s funny. Someone on this thread suggested the folks at Salon can’t pass a basic science test. Indeed.

I often ask climate zealots, “How can CO2 be a greenhouse gas if it is heavier than air?”

I get the ‘perplexed dog’ look from them.

I then patiently explain, “The reason why water becomes clouds is because the molecular weight of water is lower than the molecular weight of O2. 18 atomic units to 32.”

The light starts to go on.

“. . . That’s why clouds form. . . “

Then I’m quiet for a second.

“How much do you suppose Nitrogen Dioxide weighs?”

That wasn’t fair, right? Asking a question like that.

“Nitrogen weighs 14 and O2 weighs 32, so that’s 46. You think that the reason they build really tall smokestacks is because without them all those pollutants would fall down around the places where people live?”

Now they are lost - completely.

“Nox, Sox, they all weigh more than air. If they weigh more than air, how can the make it up to the upper atmosphere so that they can hold all that warmth close to the Earth?”

Then you get anger. They can’t deal. The science is too simple, and they say it in the 8th grade or Freshman science class. “Oh, THAT’s why we took science!”

Clouds make the Earth warmer. That’s it.

“Before we start taking away freedoms and spending trillions of dollars we don’t have, why can’t we just figure out whether the heat of the sun, and the way that heat changes from time to time, is having a bigger effect on how hot the Earth is first?”

“For instance, we can measure the temperature of Mars, and even though it doesn’t have much of an atmosphere, it might track pretty closely with changes in the average global temperature of the Earth. Measuring that temp on an ongoing basis isn’t even expensive, either. Can we do that first.”

Then they look at you like, “Haven’t they already done that.”

Truth is, they have, but they haven’t monitored and documented it on an ongoing basis. The early evidence is that when Mars is hot, so is the Earth. When its cold, so is the Earth. The Sun could be the culprit.

“Wouldn’t it be cheaper to run that lead down first?”

At this point, they’re leaving or changing the subject.

I don’t believe or disbelieve in ‘climate change’. I’m just a guy that was paying attention in eighth grade science. As soon as we can construct an experiment that shows that heavier-than-air molecules like NOX, SOX, or COX can defy gravity, levitate to the upper atmosphere, and then stay there long enough to hold in all that heat, I’ll look at the irrefutability and weight of all that and accept AGW as science.

This, after all, is what science is all about.


50 posted on 03/27/2015 8:58:03 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Warm mongers?


51 posted on 03/27/2015 9:00:50 AM PDT by Leep (Ronney/McCain 2016!)
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To: bboop
The Dead Horse of Climate Hysteria...lives on in the alleged hearts and alleged minds of the Expert Wanna Bes!!

what are hapless children to do with thier time if not beat a dead horse..its pretty much all they have in thier miserable world...


52 posted on 03/27/2015 9:03:45 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What about the current spectacle of a Climate Lying White Mosque?


53 posted on 03/27/2015 9:05:41 AM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Cruz simply said that the temperature of the world on average has not changed since 1998. And the data supports his statement.

Beware of the no-warming-in-the-last-seventeen-years deniers.

54 posted on 03/27/2015 9:05:53 AM PDT by FreeReign
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...when the world’s scientists are more certain than ever that global warming is happening and that we’re causing it...

These folks realize that they are advocating rule by priest-craft, don't they? They are not asking for data (particularly validated data), nor looking at the counterarguments. Their Shamans and High-Priests tell them there is Trouble in River City (and "Trouble" starts with "T", which rhymes with "C", which starts "Climate Change"...) and they start acting like a pack of salivating, unleashed dogs against anyone that threatens their masters...

I am OK if people want to accuse me of holding up the Bible as the ultimate authority - but I will still check out what it says (and it has never been found wanting). However this enlightened crowd claims that they are 'independent thinkers', yet they bow the knee - and shut off the brains and questions - when their Group Leaders tell them something is so. Strange.

55 posted on 03/27/2015 9:06:49 AM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gee, a future where the U.S. is once again NOT dependent on oil from people who are dedicated to worldwide domination of a madman’s cult!

And one in which ordinary people can afford gas and electricity.

Viva Presidente Cruz !!!!!!!!!!!


56 posted on 03/27/2015 9:13:34 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Lindsay Abrams wrote: "...and against all logic..."

It's the strangest thing - I don't remember any journalism students in my university logic classes... LOL! :)

Methinks the young newsslut banged her one too many times on the headboard when she was "studying biology" with the football team.

Of course, that was before they knew football caused CTE (chronic traumatic encephalopathy). Rubbers AND protective headgear, Lindsay dear...

57 posted on 03/27/2015 9:15:51 AM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: Dr. Thorne
The Anthropological Global Warming idiots seek to use the scare tactic of some sort of apocalypse to grasp more control over people. This is their sick lust.

We're "Climate Deniers". They're "Climate Liars".

58 posted on 03/27/2015 9:19:07 AM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: all the best

“Climate-lying” is what THEY do...


59 posted on 03/27/2015 9:23:13 AM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Anyone who uses the phrase “climate-denying” is a tendentious fool who may safely be ignored.


60 posted on 03/27/2015 9:23:40 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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