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ECB Pulls The Trigger: Blocks Funding To Greece - Full Statement
Zerohedge ^ | 1-4-2015 | Durden

Posted on 02/04/2015 1:17:23 PM PST by tcrlaf

Just what the market had hoped would not happen...

*ECB SAYS IT LIFTS WAIVER ON GREEK GOVERNMENT DEBT AS COLLATERAL *ECB SAYS IT CAN'T ASSUME SUCCESSFUL CONCLUSION OF GREECE REVIEW

What this means simply is that since Greek banks are now unable to pledge Greek bonds as collateral and fund themselves, and liquidity is about to evaporate, the ECB has just given a green light for Greek bank runs... and all the worst parts of the bible (or merely a negotiating move to let Greece see just what kind of chaos this will create).

And now finally, after many years of investing in ECB repo collateral, pardon Greek debt, Greek banks finally will ask what the "fundamental" value of all that Greek government debt they bought really is. Judging by the Greek ETF's reaction, the answer is lower.

The only question now is whether the Greek Central Bank, which the ECB said is now sufficient to meet bank liquidity needs, is allowed to print Euros. If not, the Greek experiment at trying to stick it to Europe is about to crash and burn spectacularly.

Joking aside, what is really at stake now, if only for Greece, is everything: Syriza either folds, and cedes by withdrawing all demands, thus effectively ending its mandate less than 2 weeks after coming to power, or it exits the Eurozone.

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Things about to heat up in the financial world. Just broke a little while ago.

Draghi basically just bet the entire future of the European financial Union on calling the Greek Syrza's bluff.

Meanwhile, on CNBC: "This is a developing story. Check back for updates."

1 posted on 02/04/2015 1:17:23 PM PST by tcrlaf
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To: tcrlaf

Talk about laying down the hammer.


2 posted on 02/04/2015 1:23:38 PM PST by C19fan
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To: C19fan

Credit Default Swaps in 3... 2... 1...

OH WAIT....
Just like in 2008, the Central bankers will determine this isn’t a “Trigger Event”, and that contract and money you paid for the Default Insurance just doesn’t exist anymore.


3 posted on 02/04/2015 1:27:12 PM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: tcrlaf

6 years overdue. Let’s get this farce over with.

We might actually have started economic recovery by now if the Banks accepted reality in 2008.


4 posted on 02/04/2015 1:28:10 PM PST by Shadow44
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To: tcrlaf

They’re never going to get their money back from Greece, but I’m betting they’ll keep pouring money down the Greek hole.


5 posted on 02/04/2015 1:45:02 PM PST by Tzimisce
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To: tcrlaf

Ka BOOM.

Remember today ladies and gents. It’ll be one that history remembers.

The zerohedge analysis is wrong. Never fight against someone who is crazy or who has nothing to lose. The government is commie so we can assume crazy applies. And Greece in general has nothing to lose. I doubt they’ll be so polite as to negotiate an orderly exit from the EU. I suspect they’ll simply print Euros on the one hand (who is going to stop them? ) and repudiate their debt on the other. Mutually assured destruction.


6 posted on 02/04/2015 1:50:55 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (The uniparty: celebrating over 150 years of oligarchy and political control!)
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To: tcrlaf

That was good for the equivalent of a -175 DJ move after hours.


7 posted on 02/04/2015 1:55:00 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: tcrlaf

Did Chelsea’s husband get the rest of his 52% out or is Billy Jo gonna have to give half a dozen speeches?


8 posted on 02/04/2015 2:01:03 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: C19fan
"...since Greek banks are now unable to pledge Greek bonds as collateral and fund themselves, and liquidity is about to evaporate,..."

Debt as collateral. Default upon default. Amazing!


9 posted on 02/04/2015 2:01:28 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: RKBA Democrat
They want what they want, but I don't think they'll pull that. They'll struggle for a few months, then their political fortunes will turn south.
Merkel ready to let Greece exit eurozone: report #4 posted on 01/05/2015 12:55:27 AM PST by pepsionice

I think there are four things which the news media and public have not come to grasp about this mess.

1. The amount of debt and economic issues are probably more serious on the average citizen than everyone imagined. If you are a diabetic....you have to use your own savings and pay cash to get insulin. Name any disease, it's serum or pills, and if it's made outside of Greece (90-percent chance), then you will burn up your savings to survive. Since 2009, Greeks have been waiting on the turn-around. It hasn't happened. It might be two decades before some economic change occurs.

2. The truth is, Greece never was ready for the Euro. It may never be ready for it.

3. Once they end their relationship to the Euro and go back to the Drachma....Greeks will find the economy just about the same and most Greeks will be surviving off the dollar or Euro as their real hard currency....rather than the fake Drachma which everyone will be trading with.

4. If you think this January election is the end of the political chaos....I'd take a deep breathe and prepare for another election before the end of the year. This January election doesn't really fix anything....it just resets the clock and makes people think there's still a better chance ahead, where there isn't.



10 posted on 02/04/2015 2:09:14 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary men)
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from wiki-wacky:
Rank Country
(or dependent territory)
July 1, 2015
projection[1]
% of
pop.
Average
relative
annual
growth
(%)[2]
Average
absolute
annual
growth
[3]
Estimated
doubling
time
(Years)[4]
Alternative
figure
Date Source
1  Germany 81,172,000 16.01 0.33 271,000 207 80,767,000 December 31, 2013 Monthly official estimate
2  United Kingdom 64,915,000 12.80 0.63 406,000 110 64,105,700 July 1, 2013 Official estimate
3  France 64,352,000 12.69 0.47 298,000 149 66,092,000 January 1, 2015 Monthly official estimate
4  Italy 61,037,000 12.04 0.50 305,000 138 60,782,897 August 31, 2014 Monthly official estimate
5  Spain 46,335,000 9.14 -0.28 -129,000 - 46,464,053 July 1, 2014 Official estimate
6  Poland 38,530,000 7.60 0.06 23,000 1,161 38,496,000 December 31, 2013 Official estimate
7  Romania 19,822,000 3.91 -0.41 -81,000 - 19,942,642 January 1, 2014 Official estimate
8  Netherlands 16,946,000 3.34 0.39 66,000 178 16,913,100 February 4, 2015 Official population clock
9  Belgium 11,274,000 2.22 0.55 62,000 126 11,237,963 December 1, 2014 Monthly official estimate
10  Greece 10,769,000 2.12 -0.11 -12,000 - 10,816,286 May 24, 2011 Final 2011 census result
11  Czech Republic 10,521,000 2.08 -0.09 -10,000 - 10,528,477 September 30, 2014 Official estimate
12  Portugal 10,311,000 2.03 -0.56 -58,000 - 10,427,301 2013 Official estimate
13  Hungary 9,838,000 1.94 -0.26 -26,000 - 9,877,365 January 1, 2014 Official estimate
14  Sweden 9,806,000 1.93 1.11 108,000 63 9,743,087 November 30, 2014 Monthly official estimate
15  Austria 8,617,000 1.70 0.69 59,000 101 8,572,895 October 1, 2014 Official estimate
16  Bulgaria 7,185,000 1.42 -0.57 -41,000 - 7,245,677 December 31, 2013 Official estimate
17  Denmark 5,676,000 1.12 0.48 27,000 145 5,655,750 October 1, 2014 Official estimate
18  Finland 5,487,000 1.08 0.46 25,000 152 5,472,421 November 30, 2014 Monthly official estimate
19  Slovakia 5,420,000 1.07 0.11 6,000 626 5,415,949 September 30, 2014 Official estimate
20  Ireland 4,630,000 0.91 0.35 16,000 200 4,609,600 April 2014 Official estimate
21  Croatia 4,230,000 0.83 -0.31 -13,000 - 4,267,558 July 1, 2012 Official estimate
22  Lithuania 2,911,000 0.57 -0.75 -22,000 - 2,921,920 January 1, 2015 Monthly official estimate
23  Slovenia 2,067,000 0.41 0.19 4,000 358 2,063,739 February 4, 2015 Official population clock
24  Latvia 1,980,000 0.39 -0.85 -17,000 - 1,988,400 January 1, 2015 Monthly official estimate
25  Estonia 1,315,000 0.26 0.46 6,000 152 1,312,252 January 1, 2015 Official estimate
26  Cyprus 876,000 0.17 0.46 4,000 151 865,900 December 31, 2012 Official estimate
27  Luxembourg 570,000 0.11 2.52 14,000 28 549,700 December 31, 2013 Official estimate
28  Malta 425,000 0.08 0.47 2,000 147 417,432 November 20, 2011 2011 census result
Total 507,017,000 100.00 0.26 1,293,000 271

11 posted on 02/04/2015 2:11:40 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary men)
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President Of Euro Parliament Warns Greece Risks National Bankruptcy; Varoufakis Replies: “Greece Already Is Bankrupt”


12 posted on 02/04/2015 2:19:49 PM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: RKBA Democrat
"I suspect they’ll simply print Euros on the one hand (who is going to stop them? ) and repudiate their debt on the other."

That's an interesting point.

Where are Euros actually printed? A central location or does each member country crank their own out?

If the latter, that sounds like a license for disaster.

13 posted on 02/04/2015 2:30:16 PM PST by SnuffaBolshevik (Enter something.)
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To: SnuffaBolshevik

Yes they can:

http://www.polycapitalist.com/2012/05/greece-can-physically-print-its-own.html


14 posted on 02/04/2015 2:35:28 PM PST by Revel
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To: SnuffaBolshevik

Each country prints its own.

And again, what would the EU going to do about it? Cancel all their currency? Invade? I think Vlad Putin might have some objections to that.


15 posted on 02/04/2015 2:42:43 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (The uniparty: celebrating over 150 years of oligarchy and political control!)
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To: tcrlaf
the ECB has just given a green light for Greek bank runs...

Or a long bank holiday, for which the smart ones are already ready. There are mattresses that will be a little less full, though.

Greek banks finally will ask what the "fundamental" value of all that Greek government debt they bought really is. Judging by the Greek ETF's reaction, the answer is lower.

Tuesday has arrived, the hamburger is long gone, and Wimpy is backtracking on his promise. Anyone who is surprised by this was a little naive to begin with.

16 posted on 02/04/2015 2:45:58 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: RKBA Democrat

The only limitation I read about is that Greece may have trouble getting the right ink and paper.


17 posted on 02/04/2015 2:47:51 PM PST by Revel
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To: SunkenCiv

Time will tell of course, but really...why wouldn’t the Greeks do exactly that? These ARE hardcore commies. Commies repudiate debt. They revel in the destruction of banks.


18 posted on 02/04/2015 2:48:53 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (The uniparty: celebrating over 150 years of oligarchy and political control!)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Politicians fear nothing more than loss of power. Their fellow Greeks want something for nothing, and don’t live in a society where there are prospects for growth. The population is aging, and while they are on the low end of the larger EU states, their idea of economic freedom is charging lunch and billing it to someone else. The EU would act immediately on rogue activity of that kind, and it would hurt Greece. Right now there aren’t enough assets in Greece to repossess if the creditors seized everything and put the whole population on a raft the hell out of town. Plus, the creditors would own Greece, yuck.


19 posted on 02/04/2015 3:06:31 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary men)
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To: tcrlaf

Greece, not to big to fail.


20 posted on 02/04/2015 4:03:03 PM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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