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Giles didn't like my original title as much as the one he chose for it at the link....
1 posted on 01/25/2015 12:38:08 AM PST by IChing
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To: IChing

I would agree with most of the analysis....although ‘cult’ probably fits as well or better than Manson family. If you write down the ten requirements to be a cult...all ten fit in this case. I’d also agree that if all Muslims sat down...read the actual history (from their own trilogy) and thought about it without scholarly type figures telling what to think...they’d all say that ‘number one’ was not the kind of person they’d want as a prophet or visiting the house while their ten-year old daughter was there.


2 posted on 01/25/2015 12:47:28 AM PST by pepsionice
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Muhammed was a deranged man. He concocted this whole lie to fool people. He was no different than Jim Jones,...
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or Joseph Smith..

Mo and his cave, Joey and his grove....

Mohammad was Joey’s idol and in 1838 Joey wanted to be the “2nd Mohammad”..”Joseph Smith or the sword...

He was known as the “American Mohammad” ...


3 posted on 01/25/2015 12:53:43 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: IChing
Ali Sina is correct here. Muhamed created Islam to gain power, sex, and to be able to be a pedophile. Islam is a bunch of lies from a power mad, terrorist pedophile named Muhammad. Muhamad at the age of 53 even married a 6 year old girl named Aisha.
9 posted on 01/25/2015 1:52:35 AM PST by Democrat_media (The media is the problem. reporters are just democrat political activists posing as reporters)
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To: IChing

Conflating Charlie Manson with Allah’s execrable Prophet gives too much credit to the latter.


14 posted on 01/25/2015 2:38:37 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: IChing

And yet given all this info, seemingly “intelligent” people belong & convert to these “religions.” I’ll never understand that .


17 posted on 01/25/2015 3:20:24 AM PST by FES0844
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BFL


18 posted on 01/25/2015 4:01:07 AM PST by ImNotLying (Any gun in the hands of a decent person is only a threat to those who intend to do harm.)
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To: IChing

I had an idea to create an alternative Five Pillars of Islam. So far I have at least six, and I wonder if I should pare them down, or just go past five. I’d give it an easily searchable title like “The Six True Pillars of Islam.” Or maybe I’ll make it five, with the warning about lying being permitted going last without a number. Anyway, it’s a work in progress, if you have any suggestions.

1. Islam is a war plan. Islam is a hostile, aggressive, predatory conquest strategy for invading and subjugating non-Muslim lands.

2. Islam enslaves all women. Under Sharia Law, Islam enslaves all women as the chattel property of a man. The degree of freedom enjoyed by a woman under Islam is entirely up to the man who owns her, and can be revoked at any time, with the woman held in bondage behind locked doors. Women who resist enslavement can be beaten into submission by their male owner.

3. Islam subjugates Christians and Jews. Under the Sharia, Islam formally treats Christians and Jews as second=class citizens or “dhimmis” who must pay a special tax and abide by harsh and bigoted rules in order to be allowed to live.

4. Islam murders homosexuals, atheists, apostates, “pagans,” and Christians or Jews who will not pay the dhimmi tax and who do not humble themselves before any Muslim.

5. So-called “moderate Muslims” who move to a non-Muslim land maintain self-apartheid and refuse to assimilate, creating Sharia Law no-go-zones, which are the beachheads for future violent jihad when the Muslim invaders have sufficient numbers to go on the attack.

6. Islam permits lying to non-Muslims, especially about the true pillars of Islam, so no Muslim can ever be believed when he denies the above listed truths, which are proven by 1,400 years of history from Mohammed until today.


23 posted on 01/25/2015 5:46:22 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: IChing
A number of thoughts come to mind when looking through the foregoing……

First, the Bible is a complete book. When the apostles died, the canon closed with them and someone who doesn’t want to believe or accept that by definition rejects the entire book. It’s an all or nothing deal……it’s either 100% accurate and complete and must be accepted as such or it’s 100% false, incomplete and must be rejected. Galations 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. Here Paul is issuing a warning (repeated twice no less) that even if the source for some new ‘gospel’ appears to be an angel from heaven, it must be rejected…. and this rejection is in perfect alignment with the teaching in 2 Corinthians 11:3 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. Very simply, any teaching that comes after the canon was closed is Satanic.

There are many gods (fallen angels) who have amazing powers doing the work of Satan…. we are warned to reject ALL of it no matter how honest or appealing it may seem to be and this is summed up neatly in the verse that says that “Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.” Mankind is not expected to be so smart that they can discern the wily nature of Satan…he is way too smart to be figured out. But mankind is smart enough to apply a basic principle of rejecting everything after the apostles on no other grounds is that it came after the apostles and thus had the potential to be false. This by the way includes any teachings that emanate from mainstream Christian churches… i.e. those teachings that are presented as equal to scripture and are standalone in nature as opposed to those teachings which are centred on existing passages in the Bible itself. The warnings about messing with scripture could not be laid out more clearly than in the last book of the Bible.. Revelations 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.< b>

24 posted on 01/25/2015 6:35:26 AM PST by hecticskeptic (In life it's important to know what you believeÂ….but more more importantly, why you believe it.)
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To: IChing

Vry good. But his essay omits the reason he accumulated adherents.
He was leader of a band of common thieves. His “religion” gave moral authority to thievery and murder. That was the lustful attraction of being in on the “in crowd”. Motive is important in the big picture.


25 posted on 01/25/2015 6:53:31 AM PST by dasboot
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26 posted on 01/25/2015 7:56:34 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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Excellent read, but what really struck me the most was how the personage of the thing that occupies the WH (’TOWH’, I will now call “it”) jumped up like a red flag as I poured over the article.

There has been several occasions in which I talked with my father about TOWH, how I fervently believe it is muslim based on all the empirical evidence at hand. Most of the time he said he just didn’t know [if it was a muslim], and then while he was resting in his recliner one day, he spoke to me about the fact that TOWH may actually have NO belief in islam or any other belief system, because it feels that it is, in fact, GOD (which satan has gone about doing since before Creation). As he told me to keep this in mind, he went on to say that TOWH could just be using the Islamic belief system and its billion+ followers to accomplish (TOWH’s) ultimate goal of this world under its rule—as we are witnessing now, every second of every day.

My father and I also know, however, that God Himself will deal with satan and his follower, TOWH, as we read in Ezekiel, Daniel, Isaiah, and Revelation! The Lion of the Tribe of Judah is going to roar down upon the Earth, glory be to God! Amen!


27 posted on 01/25/2015 8:58:10 AM PST by Patriot777 (Imagine....that we could see Obama being hauled out of the White House kicking and screaming?)
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