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AR: Victim Didn't Shoot, Safety was on
Gun Watch ^ | 3 January, 2015 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 01/04/2015 6:13:11 AM PST by marktwain


An Arkansas burglary victim's pistol did not fire when he intended it to, because the safety was on, and he did not realize it.   Wayne Murrey, above shows some tactical sense as he cautiously peered through a doorway, exposing little of himself while he looked to determine what was happening.  When he saw that a curtain was disturbed, he realized that someone was trying to break in.   That is when he accessed his firearm.  From katv.com:

“I got up, walked over here and I peeked like this, and I see the curtain kind of pulled back a little, so I said to myself...somebody is trying to break into the home,” said Murrey.

The alleged burglar, Wendell Hilton Giles, above, was wanted in eight other burglaries and was a parol absconder.

Murray had the police dispatcher on the phone when he tried to pull the trigger, just as the dispatcher told him not to shoot.   Giles was already partway through the window.   But Murrey's gun would not fire.  The safety was on.  Giles fled, but was caught by the police a few blocks away.


The police said the suspect was unarmed, but Giles left this brick that was used to break the window.

It is not uncommon for people to forget that the safety is on.  I have seen it happen dozens of times with students who are not very familiar with their firearm.  I recall practicing taking off the safety as I brought the gun to bear, thousands of times, in order to make shooting a smooth reflex.   The problem with having the safety on or off is one of the reasons that double action revolvers, most of which do not have manual safeties, and Glock pistols, which have the safety on the trigger, are so popular.   It is the "keep it simple" principle.

Murrey was glad that he did not shoot Giles.  He hinted that he might have been scared out of a life of crime decades earlier, when he said that it could have been him:
“I didn't want to make an example out of nobody's child and I didn't want it to be...you know it could have been me at one time...but God saved me.”
Perhaps God will work a miracle in Giles life.  Wendell Hilton Giles came very close to losing it.  Murrey was aiming at his head, and the shot was not a long one.

Know your equipment, and practice, practice.   Dry fire practice is cheap, and does not harm most modern handguns.  You can use a snap cap or fired casing if you need to, to cushion the firing pin when it hits.

Make a ritual of keeping the firearm that you are dry firing separate from ammunition, preferably in another room, while you are dry firing.  There have been accidents where people are distracted, just after reloading their firearm, remember that they were dry firing, and start "dry" firing with a loaded weapon.   Do not become one of those people.   Another worthwhile precaution is to aim at something that will stop bullets.   A TV is not a good target.   Many have died in the name of firearm proficiency.

Familiarity with your equipment can make a big difference when you have to use it.

 ©2014 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice is included.
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Many things have not been shot because the safety was on.
1 posted on 01/04/2015 6:13:11 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Like the cop in Berkeley, Missouri that would be dead if the punk thug knew the safety was on on his stolen Hi-Point


2 posted on 01/04/2015 6:18:19 AM PST by digger48
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To: marktwain

Wheel gun for the nightstand


3 posted on 01/04/2015 6:18:57 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Pointing out dereliction of duty is NOT fear mongering, especially in a panDEMic)
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To: NonValueAdded

Cocking the hammer improves gun control..


4 posted on 01/04/2015 6:23:56 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: marktwain

“Eez gon! Eez not safe!”


5 posted on 01/04/2015 6:24:44 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: NonValueAdded

A Glock might have helped.

Competition shotgunners, particularly those shooting live bird (pigeon) competitions, often have guns custom built without a safety, or altered to disengage the safety. Nothing like standing there squeezing the trigger and watching the target fly out of sight.


6 posted on 01/04/2015 6:24:59 AM PST by Stevenc131
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To: marktwain
I think if a dispatcher ever told me "not to fire" when an invader was inside my home, I'd like to think I'd have the presence of mind to ask him/her "are you assuming full liability for what happens if I don't fire?" As far as I'm concerned, a "don't fire policy" admonition by 'dispatch' is criminal. They have no way to assess the situation beyond what is relayed on the phone, if that.

If anything, they should have a "remain silent" policy with regard to a homeowner protecting himself. Criminal....just criminal.

7 posted on 01/04/2015 6:27:43 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: digger48

OMG, you mean never having fired even one round through the weapon, perhaps never having even used a firearm, this jamoke thought he’d go out an cap a cracker cop? What a moron.


8 posted on 01/04/2015 6:29:05 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (This is known as "bad luck". - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: marktwain

“Wenn ich Kultur höre ... entsichere ich meinen Browning!”


9 posted on 01/04/2015 6:33:39 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (This is known as "bad luck". - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

But...but...Dindu Nuffin was “turning his life around”


10 posted on 01/04/2015 6:34:41 AM PST by digger48
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To: marktwain

Perhaps after dialing 911 he should have put the phone down and dealt with matters at hand.


11 posted on 01/04/2015 6:35:48 AM PST by Carthego delenda est
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Dindu Nuffin was “turning his life around”

Shooting at a cop with the safety on will definitely turn your live around in a millisecond.

12 posted on 01/04/2015 6:36:01 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (This is known as "bad luck". - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: marktwain

If a home invader has breached your perimeter, the time to call 911 is well past. You are on your own and are responsible for your own safety.

Perhaps you can fall on your knees and beg for mercy, as that does as much good as “don’t shoot” advice from a phone operator.

US law enforcement IS NOT responsible for the safety of US citizens, the SCOTUS has explicitly ruled on the subject.


13 posted on 01/04/2015 6:37:47 AM PST by wrench
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To: Gaffer

While they may have some brief training, dispatchers are not cops.

One of our local small town dispatchers was just working there part time from her regular job at Burger King


14 posted on 01/04/2015 6:38:05 AM PST by digger48
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To: Stevenc131

Or a Sig P220.

Condition 1 is safe and ready, all the time.


15 posted on 01/04/2015 6:40:26 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: marktwain
Many things have not been shot because the safety was on.

Including a 6-point bull elk I had my sights on my very first time hunting.

I pulled the trigger. Nothing. Panicked, I re-chambered my rifle, ejecting a perfectly good round before I realized what was going on and lost the shot. To make matters worse, I was down in a meadow and within the range of fire for the rest of our hunting party, preventing them from taking a shot. To add a final insult to injury, that was the only bull elk anyone saw the whole week we were up there.

I never went elk hunting again.

16 posted on 01/04/2015 6:41:57 AM PST by Drew68
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To: digger48

Yet, when you call 911 you expect some sense of knowledge and definite authority, don’t you? That’s certainly what I’d be arguing as a plaintiff’s lawyer when my client (or his estate) would be suing them for willful and negligent conduct with respect to an ill-thought standing policy.

If they cannot act in that capacity, then they should just keep their mouths shut about legal use of force in a homeowner invasion situation, IMO.


17 posted on 01/04/2015 6:42:32 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: marktwain

This is why I carry a S&W 340PD revolver or a Glock (30, 26 or 42, depending on clothing). When cops are minutes away, milliseconds count.


18 posted on 01/04/2015 6:46:26 AM PST by CarmichaelPatriot
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To: Gaffer

Yeah, I’m wondering if the dispatcher actually went outside the parameters of their job by saying that. Maybe he/she was of a certain ethnicity.


19 posted on 01/04/2015 6:53:41 AM PST by V_TWIN
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To: Gaffer

I had an interesting conversation with a local county dispatcher back on the evening of Dec. 7. Someone over at my drug dealing neighbor’s yelled over the fence to call the POlice. Being the bleeding heart idiot that I am, I dialed 911. I spent the next 20 minutes on the telephone with the dispatcher while awaiting the Deputy to make an appearance. We live in a big county with an undermanned Sheriff’s Dept. While the dispatcher was polite and pleasant, he seemed a little upset that I had bothered him. But the capper was when He asked if there were any firearms involved. I told him, I had no idea but I was armed. Just as a courtesy for the responding deputy. Then the dispatcher asked me, how many firearms I had in the house. At that point I told him it was none of his damn business and hung up. Next call went to the County Supervisor. I and other POed residents of this area have a meeting with him and either the Sheriff or the Chief Deputy scheduled.


20 posted on 01/04/2015 6:54:52 AM PST by Tupelo (I feel more like Philip Nolan by the day)
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