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SomebodyIs Manipulatingthe Numbers:In The Realm Of Economics A Change Of This Magnitude Is A Collaps
SHTF Plan ^ | 12/9/14 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 12/09/2014 8:05:22 PM PST by Kartographer

We’re not seeing many corporations hire here. They are laying off at this point. This is why we are seeing the retail sales completely falling. We have an unemployment rate of 5.8%, but prior years the unemployment rate was higher but we had better sales.

Somebody is manipulating the numbers… and we know who that ‘somebody’ is… it’s the U.S. government and central bankers.

In the real world, where people regularly eat food, we see inflation… and if we really calculate it out we see inflation is around 10%…when we subtract a realistic estimate of inflation, once we get even close to 10%, suddenly a negative 11% on Black Friday becomes negative 20%.

Black Friday shopping in the U.S. this year plummeted by 20% or more.

In the realm of economics a year-over-year change of this magnitude is not a plunge. It is a collapse.

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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Food prices are rising at an annual rate of 15 percent overall the last I heard....


21 posted on 12/10/2014 12:08:54 AM PST by Nextrush (OBAMACARE IS A BAILOUT FOR THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY)
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To: willywill

You probably won’t accept it, but food and energy are included in the CPI. However, these two categories, because of their volatility, are excluded in the core CPI.


22 posted on 12/10/2014 12:29:01 AM PST by monocle
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To: Kartographer
The unemployment rate is meaningless, however they are counting it these days.

The Labor Force Participation Rate is at its lowest since 1978, during the pit of Jimmy Carter's horrible economy.

23 posted on 12/10/2014 12:33:07 AM PST by meadsjn
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To: Kartographer
This is worth posting again and again; far & wide. We are being lied to.

5 Million Jobs Destroyed Under Obama

The unemployment rate is a lie, actually, six of them. A question: Why do we need 6 unemployment rates? (U1, U2, U3, U4, U5, U6 unemployment).
Like when you ask a child who is lying a question and they come up with six different answers, they are hiding something.

The unemployment rate automatically and magically counts a person as employed after six months whether or not they found a job. Since unemployment is a two condition state, if you are not one; by default you are the other. So by not counting someone as unemployed anymore once their benefits run out, that means that they are automatically now counted as employed - a bald-faced lie.

So for the truth, we must look at the "Labor Force Participation Rate" and the size of the labor force - both statistics put out by the "Bureau of Labor Statistics".

Once you do that you will see that there are still over 4 million fewer jobs in America thanks to Obama, and just over 5 million fewer than we would have had he held the LFPR at the levels Bush did.

To show them, simply look at the size of the labor force on the day Obozo was elected.
Labor Force Size

Jobs Destroyed By Obama

Total Labor Force Size in October 2008: 154,876,000
Labor Force Participation Rate (10/2008): 66%
Total Number of Jobs (10/2008): 102,218,160
(Labor Force size multiplied by rate)

Total Labor Force 10/2014: 156,278,000
Labor Force Participation Rate 10/2014: 62.8%
Total Number of Jobs 10/2014: 98,142,584


Summary

American Jobs in 2008: 102,218,000
American Jobs in 2014:   98,142,584
Number of jobs lost since 2008: 4,075,416



This calculation ignores the fact that the labor force actually increased in size over that time by some 1,400,000 people. If the Labor Force Participation Rate held the same as when Bush was President, 66% of them, or 925,320 of them would be working.
So in total, we are down nearly 5 million jobs from where we would or should be.
Total Jobs Lost: 5,000,736 - according to data from the BLS.


SOURCE:

These statistics are both available online from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, not some partisan propaganda site. They require simple arithmetic, not something most lefties are capable of.

Civilian Labor Force (Size)
Labor Force Participation Rate
Simply multiply one by the other to see how many jobs there actually are.

Do the math (arithmetic) yourself and see. Post it on your blogs and wherever you can to get the truth out there. I'm sick of the lies being promulgated by the MSM and this lying administration.

24 posted on 12/10/2014 12:35:54 AM PST by Bon mots (American Exceptionalism becomes American Acceptionalism under this regime... :()
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Diesel is still the fuel of commerce, and it hasn’t dropped in price like gasoline. ...Prices always go up quickly, in response to market rumblings, but they go down slowly, as the market counts profits.


25 posted on 12/10/2014 2:12:49 AM PST by pallis
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To: willywill

I guess we’d all be in tall cotton, if we didn’t eat eggs, milk, bacon, butter, hamburgers, steaks (gosh, I haven’t eaten one in months) etc.

While having gone down maybe 50 cents/gallon here in my area, it is still a dollar above what it was when Obama was crowned.

Nearly everything one considers a necessity (utilities, phone, rent, insurance, etc.) has gone up. If you still have a landline phone, look at the add-on taxes and charges. My most recent bill had 10 items, a new one added was an internet tax - 53 cents.


26 posted on 12/10/2014 3:27:13 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Rembrandt

“Check out meat prices and milk prices. When were they so high -— never.”

Devoting a LARGE part of cropland to ethanol corn (40% of all corn goes to ethanol!) to burn is a large part of the increases to meat, dairy, flour and other crops. (Less hay/feed for the cows, wheat crops turned to corn, beans to corn, etc.)


27 posted on 12/10/2014 3:35:17 AM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: Kartographer

Perhaps our family is unique but over the past decade, we’ve gone from prolific holiday spenders and gift givers to almost zero gift giving. We get together, have a good meal and blow a wad on a good bottle of bourbon. No one really has room in their life for more stuff.

I wonder if others feel the same? Maybe the retailers burned us out on buying “stuff.”


28 posted on 12/10/2014 3:44:21 AM PST by IamConservative (If fighting fire with fire is a good idea, why do the pros use water?)
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To: Kartographer

pretty sad when you can’t believe ANYTHING that comes out of obammy’s gub mint.


29 posted on 12/10/2014 3:51:20 AM PST by Joe Boucher (The F.B.I. Is a division of holders Justice Dept. (Nuff said))
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To: IamConservative

I’ve pretty much “nixed” Christmas. More about family now than stupid psycho spending. The retailers don’t like the term Christmas anyway, they can deal with not liking the cash that doesn’t come in too. We don’t need shiny crap junk from China anyway.


30 posted on 12/10/2014 4:05:17 AM PST by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: Kartographer

Figures don’t lie but liars figure.


31 posted on 12/10/2014 6:17:24 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, N recruitot a cut Matter of Opinion)
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To: Kartographer

Everything will be fine until the crash.


32 posted on 12/10/2014 6:35:10 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: jyro
try eating gold

The purpose of gold is not as a barter item during a collapse, but as a way to shield some assets through to the other side of a collapse.

In the depths of a collapse, you should NEVER reveal you have gold. You WILL get followed back to your house and get robbed.

33 posted on 12/10/2014 6:44:26 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Women 16-19... from 50% to 25% (projected) in 2 decades. Unreal.


34 posted on 12/10/2014 6:47:27 AM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

65 and older doubles over the 3 decades... because far fewer will be able to afford to retire by 2022.


35 posted on 12/10/2014 6:49:17 AM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Rembrandt
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36 posted on 12/10/2014 6:54:31 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, N recruitot a cut Matter of Opinion)
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37 posted on 12/10/2014 7:04:14 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Celebrate the Polls, Ignore the Trolls)
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To: Deagle
Actually, you’ve hit on the problem - Washington under this Administration! Almost everything that come out these days is strictly Political - all forecasts, job numbers, unemployment, inflation, and almost everything else is suspect. You can’t believe a thing they say - a real shame! I really don’t think that it use to be this bad but today, it is horrible. To say that inflation is only 1.7% is such an obvious lie to normal Americans that it should be prosecuted! Seems that my expenses overall have gone up over 10% is not an exaggeration! Rent up 10%, food up 12%, gasoline (even with the recent drop) up 6%. They must be using items that nobody buys to get to their calculations!

Just how are businesses suppose to react to the news when even they believe it is false? They can look at the actual numbers - receivables and sales and know what is happening..

I have repeatedly said this here and elsewhere, that one of the most essential things that needs to be done by the next administration is to order all agencies to correct all the fake numbers which have been put out by this current administration. It is their duty to insure that the public is informed just how much of a disaster this incompetent fool has loosed upon us.

Once again, "Next President! Correct these fake numbers!" History needs to accurately record the incompetence of this fool.

38 posted on 12/10/2014 7:37:42 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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