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Greenfield: The Democratic Party’s Civil War is Here
Sultan Knish blog ^ | Sunday, November 09, 2014 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 11/09/2014 2:53:10 PM PST by Louis Foxwell

Sunday, November 09, 2014

The Democratic Party’s Civil War is Here

Posted by Daniel Greenfield @ the Sultan Knish blog

There are really two Democratic parties.

One is the old corrupt party of thieves and crooks. Its politicians, black and white, are the products of political machines. They believe in absolutely nothing. They can go from being Dixiecrats to crying racism, from running on family values to pushing gay marriage and the War on Women.

They will say absolutely anything to get elected.

Cunning, but not bright, they are able campaigners. Reformers underestimate them at their own peril because they are determined to win at all costs.

The other Democratic Party is progressive. Its members are radical leftists working within the system. They are natural technocrats and their agendas are full of big projects. They function as community organizers, radicalizing and transforming neighborhoods, cities, states and even the country.

They want to win, but it’s a subset of their bigger agenda. Their goal is to transform the country. If they can do that by winning elections, they’ll win them. But if they can’t, they’ll still follow their agenda.

Sometimes the two Democratic parties blend together really well. Bill Clinton combined the good ol' boy corruption and radical leftist politics of both parties into one package. The secret to his success was that he understood that most Democrats, voters or politicians, didn’t care about his politics, they wanted more practical things. He made sure that his leftist radicalism played second fiddle to their corruption.

Bill Clinton convinced old Dems that he was their man first. Obama stopped pretending to be anything but a hard core progressive.

The 2014 election was a collision course between the two Democratic parties. The aides and staffers spilling dirt into the pages of the New York Times, the Washington Post and Politico reveal that the crackup had been coming for some time now. Now the two Democratic parties are coming apart.

Reid is blaming Obama. The White House is blaming Reid. This isn’t just a showdown between two arrogant men. It’s a battle between two ideas of what the Democratic Party should be.

Senate Dems chose to back away from Obama to appeal to Middle America. Obama wanted to double down on his 2012 strategy of energizing the base at the expense of moderate voters. Reid and his gang are complaining that Obama didn’t back away far enough from them. Instead he reminded voters in the final stretch that the senators were there to pass his agenda. Obama’s people are dismissing them as cowards for not taking him to battleground states and running on positions even further to the left.

Reid’s people think that Obama deliberately tied them to him and that’s probably true. It’s not just about Obama’s ego. His campaigns and his time in office were meant to showcase the progressive position that the only way to win was from the left. Obama and his people would rather radicalize the Democratic Party and lose, than moderate their positions and stand a chance of winning.

The left isn’t interested in being a political flirtation. It nukes any attempt at centrism to send the message that its allies will not be allowed any other alternative except to live or die by its agenda.

Obama deliberately sabotaged Reid’s campaign plans, as Reid’s chief of staff discussed, because that strategy involved disavowing Obama and his legacy. In the time honored tradition of the radical left, Obama would rather have a Republican senate than a Democratic senate won by going to the center.

Republicans benefited from a Democratic civil war. They were running a traditional campaign against a more traditional part of the Democratic Party. They didn’t really beat the left. They beat the old Dems.

The old Dems were crippled by the progressive agenda. They were pretending to be moderates while ObamaCare, illegal alien amnesty and gay marriage were looking over their shoulders. They married Obama and it was too late for them to get a divorce. And it doesn’t look any better down the road.

The Clintons became the public face of the Democrats, but Instead of turning things around, they presided over a series of defeats. Bill Clinton couldn’t even save Mark Pryor in Arkansas. Not only that, he had to watch Republicans take every congressional seat in Arkansas and the governor’s mansion.

Bill had wanted Hillary to play Sarah Palin, turning her into a kingmaker and building on a narrative of female empowerment by having her back female senators. Instead Kay Hagan, Michelle Nunn, Alison Lundergan Grimes and Amanda Curtis lost. Not only did Hillary Clinton fail to deliver, but the War on Women narrative was turned inside out by the rise of Joni Ernst. Ernst’s emergence as the definitive new senator of the election killed any chance that Democrats had of spinning the election results as sexist; even if Harkin’s Taylor Swift crack hadn’t done that on its own.

The Dems had gambled that the War on Women could offset Obama’s unpopularity, but voters were more concerned about the economy than the culture war. Not only novelty candidates like Wendy Davis, but incumbents like Mark Udall, tried for what they thought was a winning strategy.

But the War on Women wasn’t a strategy, it was a fake talking point that their own consultants had forgotten to tell them was disinformation that they had created to seed the media and spread fear among Republicans. Romney had won white women in every age group.

Increased turnout by minority women had skewed the numbers, but those numbers reflected racial solidarity, not a gender gap. Progressives had not bothered to tell their old Dem cousins what they were doing. The Senate Dems marched into political oblivion by adopting the Wendy Davis platform to the bafflement and ridicule of female voters.

The War on Women meme was greeted with laughter in New York and Colorado. Senator Udall was dubbed Mark Uterus by his own supporters and performed worse with female voters than in 2008. Meanwhile in Iowa, Joni Ernst had split the female vote which Harkin had won by 64 percent in 2008.

Not only did Hillary Clinton do more damage to her brand by failing to deliver white and women voters, but the Democratic Party is stunned, confused and divided. And the damage is self-inflicted.

The Clintons thought that they could reunite a splintering Democratic Party by taking on a Republican midterm election wave. Obama sabotaged Reid to keep the Democratic Party leaning to the left. Reid is now attacking Obama openly in a way that would have been inconceivable a year ago. Obama’s people are returning the favor by going after Reid and Schumer. The war of the two parties has begun.

The old Dems have no ideas and no agenda. The progressives want to get as much of their agenda done even if it’s by executive order and even if it makes them even more unpopular than they are now. The old Dems have realized that they are the ones who will pay a political price for progressive radicalism.

And waiting in the wings is the 2016 election.

Obama has made it clear that he is willing to nuke his own party to get amnesty done. But for the first time his party seems less than eager to sacrifice its short term greed for the agendas of the left. And the only man who could tie the two wings together has emerged weakened from the Battle of Arkansas.

Amnesty promises radical demographic change, but red state Dems want to protect their positions today. They aren’t doing it for the ideology. They want to stay in office. The mutual backstabbing ended in disaster for the Democrats and there’s no reason to think that the backstabbing is going to stop.

Obama won’t just have to fight Republicans for the next two years. He’ll also have to fight Democrats.


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To: Tax-chick
David Horowitz says this happened in 1968.

1968 was way crazier than today.

Massive war. Draft was going full-blast. Democrat standard-bearer gets assassinated in Los Angeles. Their President throws in the towel. Riots everywhere. Ever-present nuclear threat from the USSR. Kids running away from home and school to join communes. Campuses shut down. Sexual revolution showing up everywhere; in music, on TV, in movies, in books and magazines.

Crazy as today seems, it's small potatoes compared to back then.

21 posted on 11/09/2014 3:31:19 PM PST by Steely Tom (Thank you for self-censoring.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Actually it was a second thought.


22 posted on 11/09/2014 3:33:32 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Steely Tom
Wow.
23 posted on 11/09/2014 3:35:33 PM PST by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the Republican Party does not want you.)
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To: Steely Tom

I was 2.

It’s nice to know things were worse.


24 posted on 11/09/2014 3:37:13 PM PST by Tax-chick (You are never far from a spider.)
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To: Louis Foxwell
The old Dems have no ideas and no agenda. The progressives want to get as much of their agenda done even if it’s by executive order and even if it makes them even more unpopular than they are now. The old Dems have realized that they are the ones who will pay a political price for progressive radicalism.

Old Dems? what the H@!! is that, an Oxymoron? they are bankrupt, period. As William Bennett said, it was a mess of pottage to defend Bill Clinton on the Monica Mess, and now with all of the Obamagates and his Agenda it is Clinton on Steroids, his cohorts in the House and Senate who did not protest and went along with the agenda, now OWN IT as much as Obama does. The Smart ones, Frank, Dodd, Waxman etc etc, left before the defecate hit the rotary oscillator of which they also helped turn the switch on to max. What the H@!! it, doesn't matter to them, they still get their pension!

And we think we have internal squabbles between the EGOP and the Tea Party? That is a ant's fart in a wind storm compared to the millstone of all thing Obama and all those who want to remove it from their necks. They can't, they bought it hook, line, and sinker.

It will be fun, stand back and watch them destroy themselves, grab the snack food and beverage of your choice and let them. Don't try to fix them or diagnose them, just let them be. When your enemy is destroying themselves, do nothing...

25 posted on 11/09/2014 3:38:30 PM PST by taildragger (Not my Circus, Not my Monkey ( Boy does that apply to DC...))
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To: Tax-chick
It’s nice to know things were worse.

They didn't seem "worse" to me at the time. I was 13 in 1968, and my big loves were (1) science and (2) music.

In science, we had the amazing accomplishments of the space program, as well as burgeoning computer technology and lots of other exciting things going on.

In music, we had the radio. The most amazing musical talents ever were available instantly to any kid with a transistor radio. Plus, wonderful music at my school (regular band and jazz band). To me, it seemed like an amazing show, with moon rockets for fireworks.

For my parents, and the parents of my friends, it was another story all together.

I know two people who had older brothers and sisters take off for who-knows-where, in one case out the bedroom window in the middle of the night.

26 posted on 11/09/2014 3:42:39 PM PST by Steely Tom (Thank you for self-censoring.)
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To: Steely Tom

My father was in Vietnam that year, and again in 1971-72.

Horowitz’s point was that what he calls “neo-Communists,” such as Tom Hayden, took over leadership of the Democrat party at that time. Obama is from the same red-diaper lineage.


27 posted on 11/09/2014 3:46:03 PM PST by Tax-chick (You are never far from a spider.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

28 posted on 11/09/2014 3:51:39 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Hugin

Outside of Coumo i do’nt see who can take the nomination from her. Unless its another unknown and i don’t know that voters are going to go that way in primaries again.
I do think she’ll be a really weak candidate in the general.


29 posted on 11/09/2014 3:55:05 PM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Tax-chick
My father was in Vietnam that year, and again in 1971-72.

Wow. I hope he made it back to you. The guys who went to VN got the short end of the stick in so many ways. I hope he's not bitter about it, though Heaven knows he has a right to be.

Horowitz’s point was that what he calls “neo-Communists,” such as Tom Hayden, took over leadership of the Democrat party at that time. Obama is from the same red-diaper lineage.

Of course, no disagreement there. Except look what their dance with reality has turned them into. Crazy old dingbats like Pelosi, bottom-feeder mouth-breathers like Reid and Schumer. Crooks like the Clintons. Nutcases like Alan Grayson.

Not quite what Tom Hayden and Bernardine Dohrn had in mind, I'm guessing. Not quite what Diana Oughton and Terry Robbins vaporized themselves for.

30 posted on 11/09/2014 3:55:14 PM PST by Steely Tom (Thank you for self-censoring.)
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To: Capt. Tom

“Progressive” has long been a synonym for Commie.


31 posted on 11/09/2014 3:55:25 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

Great piece of art. What’s it called? “Plantation Boss”


32 posted on 11/09/2014 3:57:21 PM PST by Eddie01 (Liberals lie about everything all the time.)
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To: wiggen

Elizabeth Warren is a name that keeps popping up


33 posted on 11/09/2014 3:57:59 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: wiggen

The hardcore lefties seem to love Elizabeth Warren. I wouldn’t be surprised if she takes down Hillary.


34 posted on 11/09/2014 4:00:15 PM PST by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!",)
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To: Steely Tom

But the 1968 riots was the seed that grew into today’s RAT party.


35 posted on 11/09/2014 4:08:05 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: Paladin2
“Progressive” has long been a synonym for Commie.

It's long past time for the conservatives to start call things by their right name.

The Democrat party is a Socialist party and should be called that. Yet the right wingers continue to use democrat. -Tom

36 posted on 11/09/2014 4:08:16 PM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse U.S. citizens and Americans. They are not necessarily the same. -tom)
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To: Eddie01

Puppet Clown.


37 posted on 11/09/2014 4:10:01 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: Eddie01

Bo Jangles....


38 posted on 11/09/2014 4:10:03 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Louis Foxwell

Great. So we’ve got a knock-down-drag-out fight between two sides of the same wooden nickel.


39 posted on 11/09/2014 4:17:59 PM PST by uglybiker (nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!)
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To: Louis Foxwell
"I highly recommend an occasional look at the Sultan Knish blog."

Yea...I checked it out... In the area called "Important Post" was an article called "Our Consensus Rulers"... I found it very interesting...profound.

40 posted on 11/09/2014 4:22:42 PM PST by unread (Rescind the 17th. Amendment...bring the power BACK to the states...!)
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