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VANITY: Anybody take the dive in getting a Nissan Leaf?
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Posted on 08/22/2014 8:50:27 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal

So the wife & I are thinking on taking the plunge. I commute about 75 miles a day round trip to work & back. Based on that, I pay over $410 in gas/month on a paid car that is just getting more expensive to maintain.

Any other FReepers who are owners care to give your experiences?

Is it worth it?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Travel
KEYWORDS: electricvehicles; leaf; nissan; nissanleaf; taxincentives
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To: prisoner6

BOL!: “98 Dodge Durango...we get 9 mpg city...20 hwy....BUT, I can go anywhere on or off road, haul whatever I need, and lay down rubber and smoke like a NASCAR Driver...hehehehe!”

Our younger son got an early inheritance, my big Ford Bronco, OJ Simpson model with the big V8 5 years ago. He gets about 12 mpg in town which is minimal driving and about 15-17 mpg on the road.

At first due to pressure from enviral whackos, he considered getting a so called eco friendly vehicle. He put new tires on the Bronco and had the yearly smog test which it passed. The owner of the smog shop told him to keep the vehicle until it stopped running in about another 100,000 miles pluse the original 100k, and if he decided to sell it, to contact his shop first.

He is an avid bike rider and rides his bike to and from work when the weather permits and puts maybe 5k miles on each year. Most of his drives are one a lot of 2 lane roads, where a lot of people in the enviral whacko vehicles are often in head ons or slamming into a tree. They end up seriously hurt or killed. If it is a head on with similar vehicle, the driver of the big pickup or suv walks away or drives away. Not so with those in the smaller beer cans posing as cars.

The town he lives in has a great Ford dealer, and the head mechanic loves the Broncos and service is minimal, low cost and excellent.

One of his fellow bike riders is a cpa and told my son that he would be wasting big money to buy a $25-30k+ vehicle to be green. He gave him a spread sheet to prove the point.

Often when he parks his Bronco to go bike riding, he will have a business card or a sheet of paper under the windshield wiper on his side offering to buy his Bronco.


101 posted on 08/22/2014 10:10:02 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Our Sunni White house isn't surprised at the beheading. They are surprised at the publicity)
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To: Future Snake Eater

My wife’s, car is a 2011 camry hybrid. Great car.


102 posted on 08/22/2014 10:10:17 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.q)
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To: billyboy15

Whoever came up with the idea of timing beltsunami should be flogged.


104 posted on 08/22/2014 10:14:11 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.q)
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To: P-Marlowe
...Do your part to save the Planet...

I don't care who ya are - that's funny right there!

105 posted on 08/22/2014 10:14:15 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: F15Eagle

A cat o’ 9 belts. Then put on a rack and pulled in both directions by timing belts.


107 posted on 08/22/2014 10:18:50 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.q)
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To: shove_it

Interesting review

We have owned our Leaf since May 2011. We have loved the car but are now getting quite concerned. My husband drives the car, on average, 20-40 miles/day to and from work and running errands, mostly 100% on city roads. We live in San Diego, so no issue with winter weather and we live 7 miles from the ocean so seldom have daytime temperatures above 85. Originally, we would get 65-70 miles per 80-90% charge. Last fall we noticed that there was considerably less remaining charge left after a day of driving. He began to track daily miles, remaining “bars”, as well as started charging it 100%. For 9 months we have only been getting 40-45 miles on a full charge with only 1-2 “bars” remaining at the end of the day. Sometimes it will be blinking and “talking” to us to get to a charging place ASAP. We just had it into the dealership. Though on a full charge, the car gauge shows 12 bars, the dealership states that the batteries have lost 2 bars via the computer diagnostics (which we are told is a different reading from the car gauge itself) and, that they say, is average and excepted for the car at this age. Everything else (software, diagnostics, etc.) shows 100%, so the dealership thinks that the car is functioning as it should. They are unable to explain why we can only go 40-45 miles on a charge, but keep saying that the car tests out fine. If the distance one is able to drive on a full charge decreases any further, it will begin to render the car useless. As someone else recommended, in retrospect, the best way to go is to lease the Leaf so that battery life is not an issue.

http://www.nissanusa.com/leaf-electric-car/ratings-reviews?next=model.overview.leaf.ratings_reviews.button2


109 posted on 08/22/2014 10:21:10 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
Even if my office has charging stations?

That's probably the least of your worries. No heat in winter, can't use the lights too much, battery degrades over time, can't get a full charge without rewiring your garage, etc.

110 posted on 08/22/2014 10:22:45 AM PDT by palmer (This comment is not approved or cleared by FDA)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
This is pure economics.

Then the answer is obviously no.

112 posted on 08/22/2014 10:24:15 AM PDT by palmer (This comment is not approved or cleared by FDA)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
One good delaying traffic jam, and you're hosed...and since you won't want to use the radio - which uses more of the juice - you won't learn of said traffic troubles until you're smack in the middle of it.

Don't do it.

113 posted on 08/22/2014 10:24:49 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (It ain't a "hashtag"....it's a damn pound sign, number sign, or octothorpe. ###)
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To: smokingfrog
They are unable to explain why we can only go 40-45 miles on a charge,

Because batteries are not ready for prime time. Try again in 10 years.

114 posted on 08/22/2014 10:26:42 AM PDT by palmer (This comment is not approved or cleared by FDA)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Get a diesel.
VW has some really nice ones......................you’ll be glad you did.................


115 posted on 08/22/2014 10:29:40 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: Grampa Dave

Broncos are SO COOL! The one on the LONGMIRE show on A&E is perfect. We have been looking for one for our youngest son who is now stuck driving mrs p6’s old Saturn.

He’d also go for an F150 or older Ranger. The 4x4 comes in really handy with our winters.

Another Durango is in the mix but admittedly a used one will need a transmission, probably ball joints and other front end work. On a Durango that is a given, LOL!

I do almost all my own work so it isn’t THAT bad just a PITA.

A Bronco is much more reliable and WAY cooler!


116 posted on 08/22/2014 10:37:15 AM PDT by prisoner6 (Stop the Stupid)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Please read post 109


117 posted on 08/22/2014 10:37:21 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: smokingfrog

Interesting....we’re looking at a lease in any case.
But good read.
Thanks!


118 posted on 08/22/2014 10:41:07 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Bible Summary in a few verses: John 14:6, John 6:29, Romans 10:9-10)
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To: thackney

Yes very telling!


119 posted on 08/22/2014 10:41:42 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Bible Summary in a few verses: John 14:6, John 6:29, Romans 10:9-10)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Would you depend upon this car to get to work, or do you have another if it failed to charge one night?


120 posted on 08/22/2014 10:43:22 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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