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Obama birth record, citizenship, unraveled for Alabama Supreme Court?
Coach is Right ^ | 3/16/14 | George Spelvin

Posted on 03/16/2014 8:21:40 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax

Barack Hussein Obama’s birth riddle is being analyzed in a 13 page, Amicus Curiae brief filed with the Alabama Supreme Court by Harvard Attorney Albert W.L. Moore Jr. The brief promises to offer a straightforward theory as to just who this man in our White House really and truly is. (1)

Moore summarizes what is going on: “He (BHO) was a natural born American on the date of his birth, but further official records prove that he lost American citizenship and constitutional eligibility to the Presidency as definitively confirmed by his 1983 naturalization as an American citizen. By law, this process of naturalization did NOT restore his constitutional eligibility.”

Filed on 13 May, 2013, Attorney Moore (pg. 10) is asking that the AL Supreme Court remand the Obama eligibility conundrum back to the trial court to seek discovery concerning the following: a. subpoenaing his (BHO) DNA; b. all of his Hawai’ian “vital records consisting of an original birth certificate showing his ACTUAL (CiR emphasis) birth parents and his amended birth certificate showing his adoptive parents.” The Moore Amicus further contends that Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Hussein Obama Sr, a Luo tribesman...

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: albertmoorejr; barrysoetoro; birthcertificate; birthers; chiyomefukino; comradeobama; dunham; naturalborncitizen; obama; sadunham
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To: machogirl

If you turned 18 in
78 or 79 you never had to register for the draft. We came after Ford ended the draft and registration. When Carter restated registration it began with people as the turned 18. There was no requirement for us to register.


101 posted on 03/16/2014 1:21:08 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: bitt

Interesting development indeed. Hope the lawyer plans on staying away from planes for a while.


102 posted on 03/16/2014 1:32:41 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......)
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To: QT3.14

The problem with that theory is that there is no court order sealing Obama’s records. The records of his that are confidential are the same as for any other person.
And in 21st century “Wiki leaks-Edward Snowden America,” there is no such thing as a “sealed record.” Any record can be hacked and released, even our most top secret national security files. And any record that was sealed by a court can be unsealed by a different court if there is probable cause.


103 posted on 03/16/2014 1:50:38 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Let’s not forget our leaders in the Republican party and this includes our talking radio bobble heads aided in this scam and it’s cover up.

See tag line


104 posted on 03/16/2014 2:44:39 PM PDT by stockpirate (Only a tidal wave of tyrants blood will return our tree of liberty......)
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To: InterceptPoint

Nope, sadly, not a shred of proof. This sounds like the same stuff SvenMagnussen has been saying for a long time; however, when challenged, Sven refuses to provide any corroborating evidence. I’m afraid that this is just more fantasy.


105 posted on 03/16/2014 2:51:51 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: Nero Germanicus

I can’t wait to see your Obot head explode - or at least to see you payckecks end!


106 posted on 03/16/2014 2:53:56 PM PDT by MMaschin
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To: dinodino; little jeremiah; advertising guy; DrDude; Seizethecarp
My mind immediately returned to other posts of sven when I saw this. That prompted me to look up his blog again for the first time in a long time.

Apologies if you guys have already seen this, but apparently since Feb. 10 he's had an image posted there of a single page excerpted (pg. 7 of 29) from what appears to be a legal filing. I know that sven has drawn our attention to at least one of Albert W.L. Moore's legal filings in the past (the May 2013 Amicus?), but I'm not so sure this is from that. It makes me wonder if this from an otherwise sealed affidavit or perhaps from a document yet to be filed?
107 posted on 03/16/2014 3:31:20 PM PDT by ecinkc (Onaka, Fukino, Okubo, Corley, Guthrie, Abercrombie, Nagamine, Romo and Malihi: The Usurper Cabal)
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To: ecinkc

Anyone could file such a brief. I would like to see what’s in it. It could be more unsubstantiated rumor, a la Sven.


108 posted on 03/16/2014 3:36:46 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: dinodino
Yes, I agree. And I probably should have said so in my earlier post, but like many others here, I share the same sense of frustration at Sven's consistent lack of published supporting evidence. And to be clear, the blog post I mentioned is also absent any obvious externally verifiable evidence.

It seems like once he may have implied that he couldn't specifically comment of the details of what source he has personally observed for fear of legal consequences. But, I also understand that his implying that doesn't alone avail him any greater credibility.
109 posted on 03/16/2014 3:46:44 PM PDT by ecinkc (Onaka, Fukino, Okubo, Corley, Guthrie, Abercrombie, Nagamine, Romo and Malihi: The Usurper Cabal)
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To: ecinkc

Sven seems to have inside info and has for a long time. Everyone wants links and stuff from him. I seriously doubt he is in a position to provide links which will give away his identity. He has said for a few years that BO reentered the US and at some point Naturalized(1983). Only a few people could access those records. Same as the Passport records scandal where Brennan had Quarles knocked off. Sven doesn’t want to be killed so he can only hint.
Makes more sense than getting DNA? Why? What would anyone do with it? There is nothing to compare it to. Does anyone really think the POTUS will be forced to give DNA when they won’t make him release his BC or even school records.


110 posted on 03/16/2014 4:02:41 PM PDT by DrDude (Does anyone have a set of balls anymore?)
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To: Jack Black

Your info is incorrect - my husband was born in June 1960 (turned 18 in 1978) and he was required to register in 1980 when Carter retroactively reinstated the Selective Service. (see below for verification)

“On July 2, 1980, however, President Carter signed Proclamation 4771, Registration Under the Military Selective Service Act in response to the Soviet Union’s invasion of Afghanistan,[14] retroactively re-establishing the Selective Service registration requirement for all 18–26 year old male citizens born on or after January 1, 1960.[15] Only men born between March 29, 1957, and December 31, 1959, were completely exempt from Selective Service registration.[16] The first registrations after Proclamation 4771 took place on Monday, July 21, 1980, for those men born in January, February and March 1960 at U.S. Post Offices. Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays were reserved for men born in the later quarters of the year, and registration for men born in 1961 began the following week.[17]”


111 posted on 03/16/2014 4:06:11 PM PDT by VikingMom (I may not know what the future holds but I know who holds the future!)
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To: dinodino
I think it's here. You're right, no proof or even evidence as far as I can see.
112 posted on 03/16/2014 4:18:29 PM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: Nero Germanicus

Now that is interesting! Assuming SAD has a blood connection to Dr. Wolf and assuming SAD is BHO’s mother, they would show up as distant cousins.


113 posted on 03/16/2014 4:35:43 PM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: bk1000

You can bet if Obama were to eat a live baby on TV, the food network would air it as a special episode of Iron Chef and the judges would all marvel at his innovative recipe and technique for preparing such an unconventional dish. Is there anything this Preezy can’t do? Wow!


114 posted on 03/16/2014 4:47:56 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: MMaschin

Here’s a friendly bit of advice, offered in the spirit of great respect for the passion that you bring to this issue. You really do need to come up with some new ad hominems!
When you’ve heard it fifty times, it kind of loses its punch.


115 posted on 03/16/2014 5:25:51 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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To: ecinkc; Red Steel

I agree. This appears to me to be Sven’s narrative...with absolutely no credible source of documentary or witness evidence offered that I have seen, unlike Zullo’s filing which included both open and sealed claims of evidence.

Obot Dr. Con came to the same conclusion that this was pure Sven narrative back in June 2013, so this amicus filing is old:

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/06/moore-brief-in-mcinnish-case/

“... it also has a narrative structure that I have come to associate with a former commenter here, Sven Magnussen (and his host of sock puppets).”


116 posted on 03/16/2014 5:27:41 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical; ecinkc

Thank you very much for your posts and comments. I reviewed the brief and it reads pretty much like one of Sven’s typical posts—many unsupported claims delivered as statements of fact. I’d love it if these claims were true, and would rush to the store to buy popcorn to watch the show. Still waiting for the CCP to release their findings as well.


117 posted on 03/16/2014 5:29:20 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: Oldpuppymax

Aka obama has consistently claimed that he is the son of Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Obama, senior. He has been consistent in this over time throughout his claimed personal discovery of one or two birth certificates and other identity documents and his meetings with extended “family” members.

Regardless of what his true nativity story is or who his real parents are, for all legal intents and purposes, he either was born with split allegiance (and hence not a natural born Citizen of any country) or is guilty of premeditated criminal identity fraud (or both).

Either way, he is a bogus president and in ineligible usurper.


118 posted on 03/16/2014 6:01:24 PM PDT by elengr (Benghazi betrayal: rescue denied - our guys DIED - treason's the reason obama s/b tried then fried!)
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To: Oldpuppymax; sheik yerbouty; ncfool; nikos1121; InterceptPoint; bgill; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; ...
...Attorney Moore (pg. 10) is asking that the AL Supreme Court remand the Obama eligibility conundrum back to the trial court to seek discovery concerning the following: a. subpoenaing his (BHO) DNA...

Even if by some longshot chance such a subpoena was issued and enforced, Obama's DNA by itself would not be very useful in determining who his biological parents were. To rule in or rule out any potential individual as an Obama parent, one would need to get someone else's DNA as well, preferably that of several other individuals. For example, Obama's supposed biological half-siblings would have some degree of similarity in their DNA if they had one parent in common. The half-siblings fathered by Barack Sr. would be the ideal people give their DNA samples for purposes of comparison to Barack II's in order to make a determination as to whether or not Obama Sr. is Barack's natural father, and likewise his half-sister assumed to have Stanley Ann Dunham as her mother would be an ideal person to give a DNA sample in order to determine whether or not Stanley Ann is Barack's natural mother. But if and when you rule out both Obama Sr. and SAD as biological parents, you still can't determine who exactly are the biological parents by Barack II's DNA alone, and would still require DNA from those real parents or close relatives of them, respectively, to make a definitive determination of parenthood.

So Mr. Moore's idea of obtaining a subpoena for Barack II's DNA is probably not worth the effort unless the DNA of significant others can obtained as well. And the latter figures to be a very tedious and impractical plan of action, especially when you consider that the persons of interest may be scattered around the world or deceased and cremated.

119 posted on 03/16/2014 6:06:04 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

DNA might be a good starting point, but they won’t get any cooperation from Hussein 0bama, and this move seems more like a plan to keep the run around going - this would take years.


120 posted on 03/16/2014 6:13:23 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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