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These Children are Mine and the State Can’t Have Them
ClashDaily.com ^ | February 15, 2014 | Rob Morse

Posted on 02/15/2014 7:55:28 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Melissa Harris-Perry of MSNBC and former Massachusetts Secretary of Education Paul Reville said that children belong to all of us. No, they don’t. I’ve seen what happens to children when they are owned by the state. State ownership of children leads to neglect. It cripples children, so don’t do it. That is so glaringly obvious that I wonder why Harris-Perry and Reville say otherwise.

I’ve cleaned up the mess of state owned children. My son came from an Eastern European orphanage. Many children died there. He was examined by a foreign doctor before he was given an immigration visa. His medical report described him as “in fine health.” When we got him home, he tested positive for five parasites and diseases. That explained his continuous diarrhea. If that was “fine health” then God help those who are considered ill. Many of the other children would have died as these diseases swept through the orphanage. He contracted some of the diseases from drinking dirty water or food contaminated with feces. We had some tense days as we waited for his AIDS test. It came back negative. As odd as it sounds, his medical neglect was the good news.

He couldn’t speak any language. At first we thought he was profoundly deaf when he would not turn to the human voice. Think what it means that a two and a half year old child is completely uninterested in the human voice. It means he was treated like a stockyard animal. He was warehoused like a caged chicken for two and a half years. That leaves scars that medicine can’t cure. This “healthy” child only made eye contact when he was being fed. He was five before he asked his first question. That is what state ownership does to children.

My adopted son wasn’t being singled out for mistreatment. On the contrary, he was a typical child of the state. He belonged to the state and was being bred as a perfect socialist citizen. Some might complain that my son was from Eastern Europe so the criticism of state ownership does not apply to socialism in the US. Some might complain that socialism might not work for babies, but state ownership works well for older children. No, it doesn’t. A similar problem exists here in the US.

One of my foster children could not read by the time he was 12 years old. He was bright and outgoing, but he could not spell his own name or read a street sign. His dad was also illiterate, so I doubt his parents helped him with his homework. That changed when he came into our home. We were shocked at first because my foster son had attended public school most of his life. Unfortunately, he also received a social promotion from grade to grade for at least the last 4 years. He clearly could not do the work. That “pass them along” approach is all too typical in public schools.

Unfortunately, it took almost a half year to get the public school’s attention. We were afraid our foster child would move to another placement before he learned to read. If a school is required by law to respond within 56 days, then they will respond on day 56… or later. They have free lawyers, and you don’t.

We taught him to read. We taught him to write and to spell. We read to him. We read with him. Sometimes we spelled words at the dinner table and drove him crazy with frustration because he could not follow the conversation. We hired reading tutors for him. One problem was that our foster son had the interests of a bright 12 year old while the introductory reading books were written for someone half his age. We wrote short stories about his family for him to read. These short stories became more demanding as his reading developed. We bought him audio books so he could read along with more advanced stories. This beautifully adventurous boy dove into the Harry Potter series and Lord of the Rings. My foster son loved to read by the time he left us and returned to his parents.

Our foster children literally belonged to the state when they were with us. We had to ask permission from the state to take them with us if we left the county on weekend trips. There is no doubt that the state owned these children, while we merely rented them.

That approach doesn’t work to raise responsible adults. Several of my foster son’s sisters are now single moms and living on state assistance. Children need parents who will pay attention to their particular child and provide what their child needs. Any parent with two or more children knows that each child is different. Children thrive because their parents care about them. There is no substitute. Money isn’t a substitute either.

People who claim otherwise have hidden motives, and they are not interested in the good of the children or of society. They will never call it state ownership of children. That doesn’t change what it is.

Beware of people bearing state ownership of children.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Education; Government; Health/Medicine; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: arth; children; fostercare; frhf; government; orphanages; parents; publicschools

1 posted on 02/15/2014 7:55:28 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Great article. Thanks for posting it.


2 posted on 02/15/2014 8:06:56 PM PST by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Responsibility2nd; AccountantMom; adopt4Christ; Aggie Mama; agrace; ...

Ping.

Not exactly the typical homeschool thread, but it is very enlightening.

It points out many of the things we homeschoolers already know and are trying to prevent in our own families.


3 posted on 02/15/2014 8:29:03 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Great. Now the commie lib ‘RATS are trying to claim all of the children who survived the assault by the DemocRAT abortionists.


4 posted on 02/15/2014 8:35:18 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (As government expands, liberty contracts. - President Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Beautiful, and this guy and his wife must be amazing people to take in these unloved children.


5 posted on 02/15/2014 8:43:43 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

I know a couple who adopted an Eastern European child at age two and it has been a tremendous struggle.

The damage done even by that age is almost beyond repair.

They went through hell with the psychological and emotional issues this poor kid had.


6 posted on 02/15/2014 8:58:38 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: metmom

Our neighbors adopted two boys from Russia. One was 7 and one 12. I believe they were bio brothers too. The seven year old made it, but the 12 year old was too far gone, with no love nor capacity to love. Purely a sociopath, already too late to have any impact. He hurt other children, lied constantly, stole, tried to kill them, and burnt down their house. By 17 he was serving time as an adult.


7 posted on 02/15/2014 9:09:32 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: metmom

Our neighbors adopted two boys from Russia. One was 7 and one 12. I believe they were bio brothers too. The seven year old made it, but the 12 year old was too far gone, with no love nor capacity to love. Purely a sociopath, already too late to have any impact. He hurt other children, lied constantly, stole, tried to kill them, and burnt down their house. By 17 he was serving time as an adult.


8 posted on 02/15/2014 9:09:36 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

That is just so heartbreaking........


9 posted on 02/15/2014 9:17:32 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: metmom

It is. The only disability I fear in a child to raise is RAD. Reactive attachment disorder. It is extraordinarily important to treasure babies. If they are not adored and cared for with love, they will become cold, mean people who are forever truly unreachable, or other deep neediness that will affect those around them forever.

Let me give you an example of an unattached child whose neediness turned into sociopathy is affecting you right now. His name is Barack Hussein Obama. Mmm mmm mmmm.


10 posted on 02/16/2014 12:55:16 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

When “all of us’ collectively pays for the mandated prenatal —and the hospital controlled birthing costs. ...When “all of us” buys the baby cloths, and diapers, and baby formula ,and baby food.....when “all of us” picks up the tab for well baby health care visits— and hospital care when the child gets ill. ...Then and only then will I listen to the Progressive Hillary Clinton Crap that the children belong to all of us. When my children did something the local police thought I needed to know about—the cops never went to all of my neighbors— they came to me.When my children did something in public school that the teacher thought I ought know about— the teacher came to me —they did not go to my neighbors.The State of Colorado took two of my grandchildren from my house—the ONLY home they had ever known for four and eight years. A social worker whose panties got in a bunch because I let their mother spend a couple of hours with her girls at the park one day contrary to a “safety plan”drawn up by the outsider. A Judge who NEVER spent five minute in my house but defended the social worker. Never openly allowed any debate over the dog and pony show.That was April 2012.I tried to step up and be the daddy that my daughters boyfriends did NOT want nor know nor try to be.My grandchildren were removed and the Court said my house was unsafe for them. Only GOD can restore what the enemy has taken. I trust God NEVEr the godless State.


11 posted on 02/16/2014 4:45:51 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: StonyBurk

You violated the no contact order.

You violated a court order

If your daughter had been in compliance she could have seen the kids. Now your stubbornness made it worse for your grandchildren. Good job. sarc


12 posted on 02/16/2014 7:07:51 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Melissa Harris-Perry of MSNBC and former Massachusetts Secretary of Education Paul Reville said that children belong to all of us. No, they don’t. I’ve seen what happens to children when they are owned by the state. State ownership of children leads to neglect. It cripples children, so don’t do it. That is so glaringly obvious that I wonder why Harris-Perry and Reville say otherwise . . .

Children need parents who will pay attention to their particular child and provide what their child needs. Any parent with two or more children knows that each child is different. Children thrive because their parents care about them. There is no substitute. Money isn’t a substitute either.

People who claim otherwise have hidden motives, and they are not interested in the good of the children or of society. They will never call it state ownership of children. That doesn’t change what it is.

Beware of people bearing state ownership of children.

The formulation, “children belong to all of us” is of a piece with, “children belong to ‘society’.”
SOME writers have so confounded society with government, as to leave little or no distinction between them; whereas they are not only different, but have different origins. Society is produced by our wants, and government by our wickedness; the former promotes our happiness POSITIVELY by uniting our affections, the latter NEGATIVELY by restraining our vices. The one encourages intercourse, the other creates distinctions. The first is a patron, the last a punisher.

Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one: for when we suffer, or are exposed to the same miseries BY A GOVERNMENT, which we might expect in a country WITHOUT GOVERNMENT, our calamity is heightened by reflecting that we furnish the means by which we suffer. Government, like dress, is the badge of lost innocence; the palaces of kings are built upon the ruins of the bowers of paradise. For were the impulses of conscience clear, uniform and irresistibly obeyed, man would need no other lawgiver; but that not being the case, he finds it necessary to surrender up a part of his property to furnish means for the protection of the rest; and this he is induced to do by the same prudence which in every other case advises him, out of two evils to choose the least. Wherefore, security being the true design and end of government, it unanswerably follows that whatever form thereof appears most likely to ensure it to us, with the least expense and greatest benefit, is preferable to all others. - Thomas Paine, Common Sense


13 posted on 02/16/2014 11:04:05 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: StonyBurk
When “all of us’ collectively pays for the mandated prenatal —and the hospital controlled birthing costs. ...When “all of us” buys the baby cloths, and diapers, and baby formula ,and baby food.....when “all of us” picks up the tab for well baby health care visits— and hospital care when the child gets ill. ...Then and only then will I listen to the Progressive Hillary Clinton Crap that the children belong to all of us. When my children did something the local police thought I needed to know about—the cops never went to all of my neighbors— they came to me.When my children did something in public school that the teacher thought I ought know about— the teacher came to me —they did not go to my neighbors.
Every teacher in school wants to think that they care about their students. But confront one of them with a college tuition bill for one of your children, and see how much they don’t care. Only a parent will do it - at least, will do it with their own money. Hillary will gladly pay it with someone else’s money - as long as she gets the credit.

14 posted on 02/16/2014 11:24:34 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: metmom

A sobering read.Thanks for the ping.


15 posted on 02/16/2014 2:48:04 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

At the tipping point government destroys civil society. We’re past the tipping point.


16 posted on 02/16/2014 7:22:11 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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