Posted on 01/15/2014 3:18:49 PM PST by Biggirl
National Republican chairman Reince Priebus is coming to Connecticut to raise money this week and the tea party will be there to greet him.
The activists will gather Thursday night outside the Owl Shop in New Haven, where GOP insiders will raise money over cigars and cocktails. (The minimum individual contribution is $125.)
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i guess we’ll hafta disagree on the politics of the CT state HOUSE. I guess it is hopeless.
Not as hopeless as the Senate, but hopeless.
if he really cared about social issues, he’d drop out of politics.
Pretending there is more of a place for social conservatives in the RAT party than even the lost liberal GOP state party is ‘tarded. Candelabra cares more about government spending and other good stuff like that or else he wouldn’t be a RAT, the party with ZERO leaders that are not now pro-faggot and pro-abortion.
this continues.
The state GOP cares not about urban areas in CT.
The GOP receives 11% of the vote in that state SEN district. And that with 25% of the district is in an adjoining suburb. There are no GOP candidates cuz there are no GOP voters.
Anybody that does lobbying is willing to take votes from wherever you can get them.
1. Anyone that wants to make it their life work to change the CT urban minorities to CT GOPers .... be my guest. It ain’t my quest.
2. I’ve helped elect numerous state house candidates in recent years, since 2009 ... pro-family GOP candidates running against NARAL Dems. I could care less about the pro-gay GOPers running against pro-family DEMS (who voted against gay marriage).
3. The pro-family movement in CT will die if it becomes merely a minority wing of a minority party. We will take the votes from wherever we can get them.
4. if the wealthy suburbanites of CT do not want a legislature that reigns in spending and taxes ... it is absurd to ask the urban poor to handle the job for them.
I’m late to this party, but let me put in my two cents worth:
Penny number one: Juan Candelaria almost certainly dropped out of the state senate race because he knew that he was going to lose badly to Holder-Winfield (don’t know the demographics of that district, but perhaps a black candidate such as Holder-Winfield had a huge advantage in a Democrat convention or primary), and endorsed him after dropping out because *that’s what people who want to live to fight another day do* (let’s see how far a Republican who refused to endorse McCain in 2008 and Romney in 2012 after they had won the nomination can go in the 2016 GOP presidential primaries).
Penny number two: Impy is correct that social conservatives are fighting a losing battle within the Democrat Party, but campaignPete is correct that a socially conservative Democrat who decided to run as a Republican in a minority-majority district in New Haven would be lucky to get 20% in the general. Under our current political environment, the only way to elect a social conservative in a district in which Republicans get like 15% in presidential elections is if social conservatives run as Democrats, which is how the adamantly pro-life and pro-marriage Rubén Díaz, Sr. can get to represent a 90% Democrat Bronx district in the NY state senate; and in the case of Louisiana’s Elbert Guillory, he switched from Republican to Democrat so as to have a chance to be elected in his black-majority state senate district, and switched back to the GOP only when he had made up his mind not to run for reelection there (and run statewide instead).
my penny number 3 on why Candelaria dropped out
Winfield was backed by the progreessives and he made it clear 9 months ago that he was going to petition onto the ballot if he did not get nominated and fight til the last dog died.
Juan did not want it as bad and his supporters statewide paid no heed to the seat. He decided to back the woman in the race who counted votes and was going to lose the convention 35 to 25 ... the 2 of them decided to switch, she dropped out and Juan got in, thinking he could move 6 of the delegates ... he counted the votes yesterday and did not have them. He did not petition.
It was winnable for Juan if he decided to fight. As the more conservative ... he could have carried the white West Haven area which is more than 25% of the vote. Another chunk of the district is in Juan’s state rep seat and hispanic ... there is an orthodox Jewish neighborhood and a wealthy white neighborhood ... the rest is ghetto.
Add the inner city Republican voters.
The white GOP candidate in this seat in 2006 got 20% of the vote in West haven and 9% in New Haven. 1800 total x 40% turnout in this race ... gives a nice base of 700 votes in an election with a turnout of 5500.
A coalition of whites, hispanics and black Republicans.
The former 112-term mayor who just left office did not like Winfield. the black woman working with Winfield is the town chairman.
Maybe the House Speaker got to Juan and promised him something if he would forego the petition route.
I count it as a forfeit by the pro-family CT crowd. We simply do not have the money to participate statewide. Pro-family is broke.
I wouldn’t count on Candelaria winning huge margins in white Anglo areas such as West Haven; Holder-Winfield’s social liberalism would be seen as a feature, not a bug, for many such voters.
BTW, I lived in the beach part of East Haven for a year in 1996-97 (even back then, DeStefano already had been Mayor of New Haven for years), and it seemed to be a more socially conservative suburban area. But it’s not in that district, right?
No. Not in the district. We went thru a special election in 2011 in East Haven for state rep. GOP conservative lost by 84 votes.
Again, we ran into the same problem with groups. The New Haven Tea Party boycotted that race because “we don’t do local politics.”
And then there was a 2010 GOP primary we lost in Clinton by 21 votes ... to a “progressive Republican”. Tea Party would not support the conservative because “we cannot chase after every podunk candidate that throws his hat in the ring.”
The 3-pronged approach is dying ... all 3 prongs. If these groups won’t support conservatives that are in a real tight race, battling liberals ... they ain’t get involved in these urban races.
But, tomorrow, I am joining the effort to replace Winfield in his House seat.
Guillory was faking being a rat. Now THAT is an idea I can get behind. Get actual Republicans to run as rats for safe rats seats to fool the sheeple.
I can’t get very excited about helping an actual rat who just happens to be a conservative (or non moonbat at least) on a couple issues. Social conservative rats are useful idiots for the progressives, sitting on the back the rat bus next to the homeless lady that smells like poo. Supporting the party that’s for abortion and “gay rights”, tolerated only because the rats want votes from churchgoing “minorities”.
Frankly I want to see 100% of democrats be 100% liberal so decent people know there is no place for them in that party. Crazy? I want the devoutly religious and pro-life, anti-queeritude urban Latino or African-American to have to fret about it for a second and feel a little bad and wonder if he’s gonna burn in hell before he casts his straight democrat ballot.
“The state GOP cares not about urban areas in CT.”
And why would they, Pete? Why would they care about people who would sooner vote for Hitler than a Republican? It needs to be a 2-way street, urbanites would be well served to reach out to the GOP once in a while rather than expect Republicans to care about their interests and get nothing in return. A new approach is clearly needed for urban and minority outreach. I think Black Republicans should go into the urban centers to deliver some Cosby style tough love, tell people to look in the mirror, couldn’t hurt when we get 5% of the Black vote right now. I think we should have Catholics, White and Brown tell their fellow Catholics loudly that are doing the devil’s work when they vote D.
“There are no primaries in CT when a vacancy occurs. “
Did not know that. All the more reason for Candelaria to have stayed in the race rather than quitting, he should have been getting ready to collect signatures for a long time, he went in half cocked. And you put all the blame on pro-family conservatives who probably disagree with him on 80% of the issues for not running to support him on a moment’s notice? The guy doesn’t sound like a very savvy operator to me.
If we are only talking about “a couple issues” (Life and Marriage), then I may as well avoid politics altogether.
He may be “sitting on the back of the rat bus”, but he is a Deputy Majority Leader (one of seven). House members often do feel like second-class citizens.
You say, “Frankly I want to see 100% of democrats be 100% liberal”, which is why I want to see you stay 100% out of CT politics.
You say, “White and Brown tell their fellow Catholics loudly that are doing the devil’s work when they vote D”, yet they should vote for the opponent, a pro-gay, pro-abort Republican. And the GOP town committees in the cities tend to be all-white. And the whites like it that way.
And you say “support him on a moment’s notice?” His name has been mentioned in every article on the race going back 9 months. He has voted with pro-family groups over 80% of the time.
I’ve definitely put you down as a ‘NO’, however on challenging progressives on seats that apparently belong to them. Which is about 25 of the 36 state Senate seats.
Wake me up when he's Speaker. (which will be never because he's risen as high as he's allowed to without being 100% on board his party's radical agenda)
yet they should vote for the opponent, a pro-gay, pro-abort Republican.
No, they should vote for Barack ***ing Obama and Ned Lamont so they can get free government money. Do you mean to imply they would vote for conservative Republicans over liberal democrats? Cause I doubt it. We ran a conservative for Governor in IL last time, did he get any appreciable support in my (Hispanic family neighborhood) NOPE. It all went to the pro-faggot, pro-abortion dem.
I’ve definitely put you down as a ‘NO’, however on challenging progressives on seats that apparently belong to them.
I want to work towards challenging them for real. No real positive change is gonna happen in any state that's run by rats. I like the idea of running conservative Republicans as FAKE democrats.
I don't oppose your 3 pronged dealy but prong #3 (helping "normal American" rats in rat seats) is easily IMO the least worthy of your effort because it's the least likely to be successful and the least likely to make a difference even if it is successful. Most rats are liberal swine and most rat voters are morons so getting "good" rats elected will always be an (increasingly difficult) uphill fight. You expect real conservatives with limited time and money to do the heavy lifting for people in Obama's party? That's tough sell mano. But hey whatdoiknow.
a quik review, any ideas?
2008 leftist rep retires
Alderman Charles Blango endorsed by party, backed by Mayor.
Holder-Winfield, aide to retiring rep, challenges Blango
Blango comes out against gay marriage in NH Register newspaper.
Winfield wins 687 to 587
Winfield becomes the Transgender LGBT man on the Judiciary Committee, guiding the Transgender rights bill into law in 2011
If this Goldson fellow gets a real campaign ... I expect him to lose the Senate seat about 2800 to 1400 on FEB 25. Goldson supports school vouchers, etc.
Meanwhile, Blango is running for the Winfield Rep seat again ... the endorsement would be done around March 18 ... so we will then have a list of all candidates on the ballot and the date, approx. April 28. Expect a leftist to run one way or another.
8300 voted for the unopposed Winfield in 2012. 4500 New Haven, 3800 Hamden ghetto. If the turnout in NOV 2014 is projected to be 5500, perhaps the special election turnout is 30% or 1650.
If 600 of the voters are GOP and voted in 2010, that is one of my target groups. Of course, if we get them riled up, the GOP could run their own candidate in a 3-way race and get 18% of the vote ... that is not good. Perhaps best not to contact them before March 18.
Other targets ... 3 Catholic parishes in the district ... Albertus Magnus College .. unaffiliated voters, especially the whites in Hamden (?).
May I assume that we’re talking about a black-majority state rep district based out of New Haven? If so, whoever runs with an R next to his name won’t stand a chance—the 18% you mention for a three-man race sounds optimistic. I would encourage Republicans and social conservatives to support the socially conservative black Democrat in the primary-less special election, which not only would add one more pro-family vote in the CT House, but would help to remind black voters that they aren’t required to cave to the gay agenda or the abortion culture. If every inner-city elected official is a social liberal, social conservatism will die out in those districts (it will be seen as “acting white”), and we never will have the chance of convincing such voters of why they belong in the GOP; counterintuitively, by not asking them to vote for a Republican (who would get under 20% and ensure the election of a pro-abortion, pro-gay-agenda Democrat) today, conservative Republicans improve our chances of obtaining inner-city votes in the future.
the “CT Black Conservatives and Republicans” held an event today in Hartford that I attended. They have been watching this race along with the state GOP.
they had no intention of passing on the race and allow the local GOP voters to support a conservative petitioning candidate ...
They had their own candidate lined up ... everyone else is out ... it is just a DEM vs. GOP race now. In ‘06, the GOP candidate got 11% in NOV.
http://www.nhregister.com/general-news/20140117/new-havens-holder-winfield-now-faces-west-havens-mullins-in-senate-race
I am concerned they will do the same in the state Rep seat. Which is also heavy heavy minority and DEM.
We have an “Independent Majority” in these seats, but the GOP will not allow a coalition to form. Of course, they do not see the pro-family DEMs as potential allies because the GOP in CT does not want the pro-family issues as part of their agenda. I do not know what Mullins could talk about .. pretend he is fiscally conservative?
Blango on gay marriage
http://www.newhavenindependent.org/index.php/archives/entry/state_rep_hopefuls_differ_on_schools/
Goldson drops out
http://www.newhavenindependent.org/index.php/archives/entry/goldson_drops_out/
FYI for me:
“Goldson said he will campaign on the issues of tax reform, school reform and youth activities.
“I get continuously frustrated; I’ve been involved in politics for over 30 years on the local, state and federal levels,” he said. “I get so frustrated when I see my taxes rising annually and I’m not seeing my pay rise to cover the taxes.”
Goldson said the middle class is disappearing “because we don’t have folks fighting up at the Capitol for my community.”
The candidate said he plans to go to Hartford and find a way to “pay the bills” without “increasing the burden on the middle class,” something he said his opponent has not done.
On the issue of school reform, Goldson said there needs to be more parent involvement and more choice for parents when it comes to their child’s education.
He suggested a system of vouchers under which a parent is given a certain amount of money for their child’s education, and if they can find a better educational opportunity for their child, they can use the voucher at that school. He said he isn’t sure that would be the answer, but he knows the discussion would start with having parent input.
Right now, public education is a “monopoly,” he said. If the schools had more competition, they would be more innovative when it comes to providing “the kind of education our kids need to have,” he said.
“They keep talking about school reform, they keep talking about parent involvement, but they find every way they can to make sure parents are not involved in the final decision making process,” he said.
Goldson said he pulled his daughter out of New Haven Public Schools after she was going to be sent to a failing school without any other option.
In the area of experience, Goldson said he has more than Holder-Winfield.
“I put my experience up against his any day,” he said. “He sits there and votes on the party line without any objection, without any debate, without any input from his community. I will not do that.”
Goldson served as the legislative assistant to the New Haven mayor, clerk of two Connecticut legislative committees as well as her positions. He also has run for mayor.
In 2011, then an incumbent alderman, Goldson lost the Ward 30 race to City Hall-backed challenger Carlton Staggers, who won the primary.
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Goldson was a frequent critic of City Hall under Mayor John DeStefano Jr. In the 2011 race, he pushed for residency requirements for city employees and proposed a program to offer financial incentives to companies that hire unemployed New Haven residents. He also worked on a citizen’s bill of rights to empower residents to address problems if the city did not respond quickly enough, and to get reimbursed later for cost of remediation.”
http://www.nhregister.com/general-news/20140110/former-new-haven-alderman-darnell-goldson-to-seek-state-senate-seat-election-is-feb-25
Third District: Keefe Center, 11 Pine St.
http://www.ctpostchronicle.com/articles/2011/11/08/news/doc4eb023a05638d830994795.txt?viewmode=fullstory
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http://www.hamden.com/content/7089/7093/7091/7129/7267/default.aspx
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